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     John (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 107 Registered: 08-2002 |
Anyone have any experience with either of these? Particularly the Fox's. Opinions??? Can the LTR's be ordered custom valved? I think the LTR's are the only one's in the group that don't require different shock mounts, correct??? | ||
| Neil Flanagan (Electriceel) Member Username: Electriceel Post Number: 121 Registered: 02-2002 |
I have the LTR's in the rear of the Discovery and so far they are great. As far as I know you can NOT get them custom valved. However you CAN adjust the psi in the resevior. I also run them firm at 90 psi with a custom rear mount to get a couple additional inches of drop out of them. Aside from washboard fire roads I haven't worked them out yet. I only have about 3k miles on them so far. If you are looing for mad travel, look at the other two. You would need custom upper and lower mounts for them as youdont for the LTR's. | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Senior Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 277 Registered: 10-2002 |
I've got the Blistein 7100(remote Resevior) with custom upper and lower shock mounts as well as custom lower shock mount spacers. All will be on the truck in two days and will report back soon. | ||
| Will Roeder (Will_roeder) Senior Member Username: Will_roeder Post Number: 636 Registered: 02-2002 |
Ive got 12" Bilstein 7100s with the remote reservior, and i love them. I had ranchos before, and they sucked. When i put the bilsteins on, i could not believe how much better it rode. My vote is for the bilsteins. | ||
| John (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 108 Registered: 08-2002 |
Someone posts about cupholders and gets like 20 responses, I post about long travel shocks and this is all I get??? What the fuck is this? Neil, James, Will, Thank you. A post marked New Spy photo's got like 300 responses in a few days, but I guess this is technical so I shouldn't expect much. I'm sort of leaning towards the Billy's. Not really looking for "Mad Travel" but if you're gonna spend that much it doesn't hurt. The OME's at about $225 are just not worth the money to me! I've found the Billy's under 2 but I'd have to swap out the shock mounts to do it. What did you guy's, that have the 7100's, do to mount them in the front??? | ||
| Will Roeder (Will_roeder) Senior Member Username: Will_roeder Post Number: 637 Registered: 02-2002 |
In front, get shock towers from a Disco 2.They will let you use an eyelet mount type shock. For the lowers, You can find shock mount adapters online, or John at Rovertym can hook you up. Another nice thing about that Bilsteins is that they are fully rebuildable, you can get any valving you want, and they have heim jointed ends instead of bushings. | ||
| John (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 109 Registered: 08-2002 |
Thanks Will, I'm working with John on the matter. He is sooo nice it makes me sick! LOL Didn't know about the D2 shock towers though, thanks. | ||
| Devin Walton (Devin_walton) New Member Username: Devin_walton Post Number: 6 Registered: 03-2003 |
John, I'm running a full set of the Fox non-reservoir shocks (emulsion 10's)on my DII and have been happy with them so far. I opted for the non-res after a fair amount of discussion with the guys at Fox about how important (or in my case not important) that would be for my application. They are completely rebuildable like the Bilsteins. Performance-wise, they are clearly much better than stock, but I couldn't tell you how they compare with the others you've mentioned. I was told by a local Rover modification guru that they are too soft compared to Bilsteins and I would notice a severe decrease in handling. This is hard for me to judge only because I expect a severe decrease in handling with a 4+" suspension lift & 285/75's which all happened at the same time. I also have ACE, which factors into this equation, adding some cornering stability. Overall, the shocks feel great. Bottom line is I can at least tell you that I've been happy with the ride and quality. Devin | ||
| Mike Carino (Mikec) Member Username: Mikec Post Number: 97 Registered: 03-2002 |
I have 7100's front and rear and love them. For an off-road shock, they perform excellent on road and provide a very comfortable ride. Also I am using rovertyme mounts on all four corners. In my opinion, the 7100's when compared to the Fox, is bit better. The build quality is first rate, they use heim joints instead of bushings and the nickel plating on the body and resevoir helps guard against corrosion. Plus they are fully re-buildable. I wanted a shock that I could buy and never have to replace. And I believe the Bilstein fits that role perfectly. Mike | ||
| Jens Störmer (Jenzz) New Member Username: Jenzz Post Number: 30 Registered: 08-2002 |
I like the idea of fitting Bilstein 7100's. I use the "normal" Bilsteins for years and they are really tough. Some people in a german bb stated that single tube shocks are crap because they are vulnerable, but after being asked if they know anybody who actually had that problem, guess what: noone did even see this happen. Is this price ok (169$) or where would you buy? http://www.spencerlowracing.com/products/bilstein_7100.htm | ||
| Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Senior Member Username: Glenn Post Number: 612 Registered: 02-2002 |
John, click here  Glenn | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Senior Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 284 Registered: 10-2002 |
I had to get D2 shock towers and Rovertym loop mounts for the front spring spacer. I ordered my D2 shock towers from Nathen and Discount Rovers. I'm running the Bilstein 6100's in the front. I didn't see the need for the 7100's up front. In the rear I have the 7100's with upper and lower loop shock mounts from Rovertym. For many applications, the short body 7100 may be better, check with John. | ||
| Will Roeder (Will_roeder) Senior Member Username: Will_roeder Post Number: 638 Registered: 02-2002 |
Yea, on a Rover with ~3 or even 4" of lift, if you want a 12" (or more)travel shock, go with the short body. They will bottom out too much if you get the regular body. | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Senior Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 285 Registered: 10-2002 |
Unless you get a LRSM spacer from RTE. | ||
| Kris Arnott (Krisarnott) New Member Username: Krisarnott Post Number: 12 Registered: 02-2003 |
The Fox shocks that came with the $G stage II lift seem to work well compaired to the old original shocks. Longer travel and bolt right up to the stock shock mounts. | ||
| John (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 110 Registered: 08-2002 |
Jens, That's the price I've found them for as well at a few different sites. I think the only real advantage to the OME's is you can use existing shock mounts. This may be important to people who are really into preserving the stock parts. I think unless you're keeping your truck stock you're probably going to have to alter some stuff. The original shock mounts are sweet, but the ones rovertym sells look pretty bad ass! I also like the rear heim jointed links and offset radius arms. Rovers aren't designed to be lifted, so if you're gonna lift it your probably going to have to change some "stock" stuff as well. Just a thought. Kris, I think you may be mistaken. I thought the $G stage II included shock mount adapters. Glenn, you got me! You've been watching Punk'd too much!!! Thanx all... | ||
| A. Ali (Alia176) Member Username: Alia176 Post Number: 53 Registered: 03-2003 |
Need a little education here on the Billys. How often do they need to be rebuilt? I assume you buy a rebuild kit for these shocks? Being new to these shocks, are valve changing a big job? How does one refill the internal dampning fluid after valve changes? | ||
| John (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 115 Registered: 08-2002 |
Rovertym has a tech article on how to change the valving on the 7100's, seems pretty easy. How often they need to be rebuilt depends on too many variables. Don't know about a rebuild "kit" but any part you need can be ordered seperately. |
