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Tom Hyslip (007)
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Post Number: 156
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have oil leaking onto the front passenger tire. After driving I notice large spots on the rim and tire. It appears to be coming from somewhere right behind the rim because there is no oil on the inside of the wheel by the swivel pin housing. Any ideas? I had an ARB locker and new axles installed last month, probably something to do with that.
 

Greg Hirst (Gregh)
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Post Number: 195
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Check your brake fluid reservoir. Probably calipers leaking brake fluid and not oil leak.

Also look at swivel seals and see if diff lube is leaking from swivel balls.

Either way you need to fix ASAP.
 

Tom Hyslip (007)
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Post Number: 158
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Greg. I checked the brake fluid level and it looks fine. The swivel seals look fine from what I can see. Tomorrow I will take the wheel off and check it out.
 

Tom Hyslip (007)
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Post Number: 159
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

One more thought. Could it be oil from the hub, if a seal is bad? If so does the rover use oil from the diff for the hub?
 

Tom Hyslip (007)
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Post Number: 160
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

OK, I couldn't wait so I took the wheel off, and it is the gasket (outer most) behind the hub driving shaft. It doesn't even look like a gasket, looks like silicone. Going to have to talk with my friend that put it back on.

Anyways, does the hub use the oil from the diff?
 

Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
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Post Number: 108
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'd also check that the breather is not blocked. Rover redesigned the axles so in theory this type of event doesn't happen.
The diff and swivel both use 90wt but most swivels have been switched to "grease". check the swivel level, I'm wondering if its overfilled then as it gets hot gets pressurized and has to go somewhere...
 

Tom Hyslip (007)
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Post Number: 161
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Checked the diff level and swivel pin housing. Both are full. I had switched to grease, but must have been switched back when the locker and axles where installed. Anyways, looks like I have to change the gasket and seals on the hub. Plus, I am switching back to grease.
 

Tom Hyslip (007)
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Post Number: 162
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

When I checked the swivel pin level, oil starting to come out so I put the cap back in. I then remembered it is only suppose to be to the bottom of the hole, so I went back out and it was overfilled. I drained the extra and will see what happens tomorrow.

Chris thanks for the help, hopefully that was the problem since it use to have grease, then got to much oil added.
 

Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
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Post Number: 856
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tom, from my experience the overfilled swivel threw that tasty gear oil all over my front drivers side wheel and tire, it would actually gather on the back side of the wheel pretty dang thick. That was when I first got it and I had never seen a swivel before, so I panicked. Drained the swivel and refilled to proper level and presto, no more leaks.
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
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Post Number: 1534
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The HUB uses bearing grease, not 90 wt or swivel oil. As designed, the hub grease and swivel oil are not intended to intermix, however over time, the seals fail and one will often find the hub bathed in 90 wt. Fortunately, this is not a big deal as Series trucks were designed to run this way, and some folks (especially those with the BIG cv joints) remove the seal between the hub and the axle to allow the bearings to run in 90 wt. rather than bearing grease. I have seen many where the seals have failed and no adverse effects were observed.

It is common for some folks to not use a gasket between the drive flange and the hub, although I do not advocate this action.

Peace,
Paul
 

Neal Glessner (Nealg)
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Post Number: 680
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Maybe your breaks were squelling and someone oiled them.
 

Christian Kuhtz (Ckuhtz)
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hmm, if you remove the seal between hub and axle.. wouldn't that cause your axle to flood thru the hub if it was submerged? Or do I have that all wrong?
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
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Post Number: 1549
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Christian:
Yes, it could flood, but otherwise, you'd be flooding the hub at the very least, neither of which is good, this is why you should make sure the caps on your drive flanges are in good shape as they are your only protection from the elements. Once you go in over the center of the hub, you run the risk of flooding the axle anyway.
 

Jorge Verdeflor (Jrolfedrev)
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You can also check your oil cooler line.

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