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Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just got my new 215/85 16 Dunlop radial rover RTs. I was under the impression the tire would fit into the stock spare slot. It certaintly isn't just going to drop in. I tried airing it down to 15 psi with no luck. I'll try 5 psi in the morning. Anyone have any tips to get it to fit?
 

Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
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Post Number: 295
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Put it on your roof rack if you have one, or lay it out flat in the back. The stock spare area won't fit any bigger than a 29, and the 215/85 is about a 30.5.

Will
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
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Post Number: 454
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ian, unfortunately removing air from the tire won't help much (it's not a balloon....:-) )

Some folks have banged the heck out of the floor to get a larger spare to fit....but if I were you I'd get a rack and put it on top (like Will mentioned)....

Good luck,

John
 

Jaime (Blueboy)
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Post Number: 652
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ian,

we have a 235/85-16 TrXus MT in our RR. just take a 3# or so small handle sledge and "move" the floor area so it fits. all you are really doing is reconfiguring the dish area by spreading the metal. not a big deal especially for a 215. our 215/85-16 TrakEdge fit with a minimum of "moving".



Jaime
 

Alan Bates (Alanb)
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Post Number: 186
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here is a pic of my spare 235/85 with slight hammering. Please note you will not be able to use the trim piece or the original mounting hardware, just strap it down.

Jaime: You're back, how was Moab, talked to Brian at LRT said Jim's rear diff is totally trashed only thing that didn't break was the housing.

spare

 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 365
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i am in search of a tire that as skinny as hell but 32" diam for my everyday spare.

7.5R16 as skinny as it gets?


rd
 

Alan Bates (Alanb)
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Post Number: 187
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I remember somebody here running 7.5R16, pretty damm skinny tire, maybe it was Scrover?

http://www.discoweb.org/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&pro file=scrover-users
 

Jaime (Blueboy)
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Post Number: 653
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Alan,

yep, we made it back. cool trip. great trails for the club event. awesome scenery. all round good time.


Jaime
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Post Number: 320
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Good memory Alan. I do run 7.50R16s. Can't get the spare inside though.

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/stevecooper/DSC02829.jpg
 

Jaime (Blueboy)
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Post Number: 654
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Steve,

Alan was the one who turned me on to the metal moving technique of fitting the spare. As you can see from his pic., it works very well. Mine fits the same although I didn't put a cover on it.

Give it a shot.


Jaime
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 366
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i just cringe at the thought of driving around with the spare on my roof day in and day out.

i will have to beat it in , though i think my wheel well is so rusted it might do sever damage.

i still dont want it protruding into my cargo area more than it has to.


rd
 

Jaime (Blueboy)
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Post Number: 655
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rob,

it doesn't take much metal moving for it to fit back there. I used a piece of carpet to bang on to lessen the shock and it worked fine. had it lying flat for awhile and it ate up most of cargo room which isn't a hell of a lot to begin with. until I saw Alan's didn't really think about it. now its back in the original place.


Jaime
 

Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Guys. I do have a hannibal roof rack, but with these tires and a 1.5" OME lift it isn't going to make it into the garage with the tire up top. I want a pretty clean installation if it's inside. I like Alan's setup with the tire cover. I'm going to look into hammering the floor and then making a new side cover for it. My other option is to mount my old stock spare on another wheel and stick it back in place for emergencies. Then I would just put the 215/85 on the rack when I take a trip or venture offroad. So I would only be without it for around town driving. Plus, then I would have a 2nd spare. Perhaps a good idea since the Dunlops have only 2 ply sidewalls. Anymore input?
 

Jaime (Blueboy)
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Post Number: 656
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ian,

its difficult enough just getting the tire in and out of the rear cargo area let alone on and off a roof rack! just pound a little and put your matched spare back there.

has been some past discussion you might want to checkout on not running fairly different diameter tires together.


Jaime
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
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Post Number: 457
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jaime, I have no problem lifting a 75 lb BFG AT on a 3 spoke rim onto the roof rack.... :-)

You are right, it is a pain in the ass.

One roof rack manufacture builds a hoist right into their roof rack. It folds away onto the roof rack floor and doesn't occupy much space.

Rear tire carrier: that's the solution!
 

Jaime (Blueboy)
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Post Number: 657
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lol!! obviously a young buck - John. vs myself at any rate.

have been seeing more and more RRs with rear tire carries lately. haven't seen one yet though that looks ok with the rear sloping lines of the Classic. it is a good idea - as is the small hoist.

actually thinking about a small trailer to tow out to camp sites instead of all the heavy shit we carry on the roof rack. lifting 4 loaded down Peli 1650s onto the rack is starting to be a pain in the ass. at least for the longer stay sites where you're in place for a few days.

of course if I could get my wife to pack less than the entire house when we go, that would also help.


Jaime
 

Alan Bates (Alanb)
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Post Number: 190
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jamie, what you need is a wife like the pig farmer's wife in Planes Trains and Automobiles that will load and unload all that crap for you.
 

Jaime (Blueboy)
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Post Number: 658
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Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

eeeeeeeeeek!!!


Jaime
 

Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The difficulty of putting the tire on the rack didn't occur to me until I tried it. It went up there ok. So I drove up to the garage just to see how far off it was from getting in. Looks kinda ugly up there.
no joy
In the process of taking the tire down I managed to slip and fall off the tailgate with the tire. After chasing the tire down the driveway and having a good laugh at myself I decided it's not going up there. So looks like I'll be doing some hammering tonight.
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 368
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

YES, I too do not like the looks of the tire carriers i have seen. they seem cumbersome and detract from the
appearance.

also i think they would be a nuisance once you have the tailgate open.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Post Number: 321
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have other plans at the moment, for that area of the truck, so for now it's the roof rack.

BTW, I have a Pivlock carrier for sale:

http://www.landroverstuff.com/garagesale.htm

:-) Steve
 

Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
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Post Number: 296
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't want to beat out the spare tire depresion even more, because at full articulation with 235/85's I rub on the little indention that pops out. I need to hammer it up actually. I didn't put mine up top because of the heavy weight, so I layed it flat in the cargo area. I took out the 60% part of the 60/40 split so I could have more room. But here in a week I need to put the seat back in, so I am going to built a platform with tie downs to put over the spare.

Will
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
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Post Number: 458
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here's a pic of the hoist:

hoist
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
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Post Number: 459
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hoist2
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 370
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

oa, that's slick john. i had visions of a little crane bolted to the roof and you having rigged up to your winch cable,, lol

 

Jaime (Blueboy)
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Post Number: 660
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lol! that was in my mind also RD. a small crane or something like on a boat to raise the dingy up to the deck.

this one is a pretty cool and simple idea.


Jaime
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
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Post Number: 461
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry if the pics are too small. I will try to get larger ones.
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3653414/1053710596863_jauso4G.jpg
 

steve herrod (Sherrod)
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

235-85-16 will fit in the rear cargo area, if you relocate the mounting bracket. it only takes a small piece of 2x6 board or you can make it out of steel and a 8" long eye bolt.

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