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Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
New Member Username: Ian95rrc
Post Number: 30 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:32 pm: |
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I just got my new 215/85 16 Dunlop radial rover RTs. I was under the impression the tire would fit into the stock spare slot. It certaintly isn't just going to drop in. I tried airing it down to 15 psi with no luck. I'll try 5 psi in the morning. Anyone have any tips to get it to fit? |
   
Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
Senior Member Username: Rkores
Post Number: 295 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:03 am: |
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Put it on your roof rack if you have one, or lay it out flat in the back. The stock spare area won't fit any bigger than a 29, and the 215/85 is about a 30.5. Will |
   
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
Senior Member Username: Johnc
Post Number: 454 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:01 am: |
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Ian, unfortunately removing air from the tire won't help much (it's not a balloon.... ) Some folks have banged the heck out of the floor to get a larger spare to fit....but if I were you I'd get a rack and put it on top (like Will mentioned).... Good luck, John |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 652 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:19 am: |
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Ian, we have a 235/85-16 TrXus MT in our RR. just take a 3# or so small handle sledge and "move" the floor area so it fits. all you are really doing is reconfiguring the dish area by spreading the metal. not a big deal especially for a 215. our 215/85-16 TrakEdge fit with a minimum of "moving". Jaime |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 186 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:34 am: |
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Here is a pic of my spare 235/85 with slight hammering. Please note you will not be able to use the trim piece or the original mounting hardware, just strap it down. Jaime: You're back, how was Moab, talked to Brian at LRT said Jim's rear diff is totally trashed only thing that didn't break was the housing.
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Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 365 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:46 am: |
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i am in search of a tire that as skinny as hell but 32" diam for my everyday spare. 7.5R16 as skinny as it gets? rd |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 187 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:55 am: |
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I remember somebody here running 7.5R16, pretty damm skinny tire, maybe it was Scrover? http://www.discoweb.org/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&pro file=scrover-users |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 653 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:16 am: |
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Alan, yep, we made it back. cool trip. great trails for the club event. awesome scenery. all round good time. Jaime |
   
Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 320 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:40 am: |
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Good memory Alan. I do run 7.50R16s. Can't get the spare inside though. http://www.expeditionexchange.com/stevecooper/DSC02829.jpg |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 654 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:49 am: |
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Steve, Alan was the one who turned me on to the metal moving technique of fitting the spare. As you can see from his pic., it works very well. Mine fits the same although I didn't put a cover on it. Give it a shot. Jaime |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 366 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 11:58 am: |
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i just cringe at the thought of driving around with the spare on my roof day in and day out. i will have to beat it in , though i think my wheel well is so rusted it might do sever damage. i still dont want it protruding into my cargo area more than it has to. rd |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 655 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 12:14 pm: |
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Rob, it doesn't take much metal moving for it to fit back there. I used a piece of carpet to bang on to lessen the shock and it worked fine. had it lying flat for awhile and it ate up most of cargo room which isn't a hell of a lot to begin with. until I saw Alan's didn't really think about it. now its back in the original place. Jaime |
   
Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
New Member Username: Ian95rrc
Post Number: 31 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 01:17 pm: |
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Thanks Guys. I do have a hannibal roof rack, but with these tires and a 1.5" OME lift it isn't going to make it into the garage with the tire up top. I want a pretty clean installation if it's inside. I like Alan's setup with the tire cover. I'm going to look into hammering the floor and then making a new side cover for it. My other option is to mount my old stock spare on another wheel and stick it back in place for emergencies. Then I would just put the 215/85 on the rack when I take a trip or venture offroad. So I would only be without it for around town driving. Plus, then I would have a 2nd spare. Perhaps a good idea since the Dunlops have only 2 ply sidewalls. Anymore input? |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 656 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 01:33 pm: |
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Ian, its difficult enough just getting the tire in and out of the rear cargo area let alone on and off a roof rack! just pound a little and put your matched spare back there. has been some past discussion you might want to checkout on not running fairly different diameter tires together. Jaime |
   
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
Senior Member Username: Johnc
Post Number: 457 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 01:48 pm: |
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Jaime, I have no problem lifting a 75 lb BFG AT on a 3 spoke rim onto the roof rack.... You are right, it is a pain in the ass. One roof rack manufacture builds a hoist right into their roof rack. It folds away onto the roof rack floor and doesn't occupy much space. Rear tire carrier: that's the solution! |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 657 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 03:31 pm: |
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lol!! obviously a young buck - John. vs myself at any rate. have been seeing more and more RRs with rear tire carries lately. haven't seen one yet though that looks ok with the rear sloping lines of the Classic. it is a good idea - as is the small hoist. actually thinking about a small trailer to tow out to camp sites instead of all the heavy shit we carry on the roof rack. lifting 4 loaded down Peli 1650s onto the rack is starting to be a pain in the ass. at least for the longer stay sites where you're in place for a few days. of course if I could get my wife to pack less than the entire house when we go, that would also help. Jaime |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 190 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 03:41 pm: |
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Jamie, what you need is a wife like the pig farmer's wife in Planes Trains and Automobiles that will load and unload all that crap for you. |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 658 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 03:46 pm: |
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eeeeeeeeeek!!! Jaime |
   
Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
New Member Username: Ian95rrc
Post Number: 32 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 04:27 pm: |
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The difficulty of putting the tire on the rack didn't occur to me until I tried it. It went up there ok. So I drove up to the garage just to see how far off it was from getting in. Looks kinda ugly up there.
In the process of taking the tire down I managed to slip and fall off the tailgate with the tire. After chasing the tire down the driveway and having a good laugh at myself I decided it's not going up there. So looks like I'll be doing some hammering tonight. |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 368 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 04:34 pm: |
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YES, I too do not like the looks of the tire carriers i have seen. they seem cumbersome and detract from the appearance. also i think they would be a nuisance once you have the tailgate open. |
   
Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 321 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 06:58 pm: |
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I have other plans at the moment, for that area of the truck, so for now it's the roof rack. BTW, I have a Pivlock carrier for sale: http://www.landroverstuff.com/garagesale.htm
Steve |
   
Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
Senior Member Username: Rkores
Post Number: 296 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:50 pm: |
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I don't want to beat out the spare tire depresion even more, because at full articulation with 235/85's I rub on the little indention that pops out. I need to hammer it up actually. I didn't put mine up top because of the heavy weight, so I layed it flat in the cargo area. I took out the 60% part of the 60/40 split so I could have more room. But here in a week I need to put the seat back in, so I am going to built a platform with tie downs to put over the spare. Will |
   
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
Senior Member Username: Johnc
Post Number: 458 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:51 pm: |
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Here's a pic of the hoist:
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John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
Senior Member Username: Johnc
Post Number: 459 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:52 pm: |
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Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 370 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 09:54 am: |
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oa, that's slick john. i had visions of a little crane bolted to the roof and you having rigged up to your winch cable,, lol
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Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 660 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 10:01 am: |
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lol! that was in my mind also RD. a small crane or something like on a boat to raise the dingy up to the deck. this one is a pretty cool and simple idea. Jaime |
   
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
Senior Member Username: Johnc
Post Number: 461 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 01:02 pm: |
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Sorry if the pics are too small. I will try to get larger ones. http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3653414/1053710596863_jauso4G.jpg |
   
steve herrod (Sherrod)
New Member Username: Sherrod
Post Number: 33 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 11:54 am: |
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235-85-16 will fit in the rear cargo area, if you relocate the mounting bracket. it only takes a small piece of 2x6 board or you can make it out of steel and a 8" long eye bolt. |