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     Rover Puppy (Rover_puppy) New Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2003 |
Does anyone have TJM T15 Winch Bar on D2? Have any photos you can post of bar with winch? Do you like it? What winch are you using? Comments ANYONE? | ||
| Tom Hyslip (007) Member Username: 007 Post Number: 166 Registered: 03-2002 |
I have the t15 on my D2 but do not have a winch at this time. I plan to get one in the future, or take the one off my RRC. You have to buy the winch plate for another $100 to mount the winch. There are some pics at my web site http://home.earthlink.net/~thyslip/ Tom | ||
| Rover Puppy (Rover_puppy) New Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 7 Registered: 05-2003 |
Tom- GREAT PHOTOS! Looks like you do rocks AND mud. Considered ARB- ditched due to low winch set up. Will your winch be higher on TJM? Ever seen ARB with winch -OR- TJM with winch on mud nosedive? How do you like weight of TJM in comparison to ARB? What is your current approach angle? Any idea of what approach will be when you add winch? How about respooling winch on TJM bar? GREAT tires- any reason you chose BFG ATs over MTs with all that mud? NICE LOOKIN roof rack- Hannibal? Thanks- RP | ||
| Tom Hyslip (007) Member Username: 007 Post Number: 167 Registered: 03-2002 |
Not sure about the exact approach angle, but I know it is better than the ARB and not as good as the $G. The weight is about the same as ARB. I don't think the winch will change the approach much but that depends on your suspension from the extra weight. As far as placement and approach, the winch goes just under the main cross bar. There is a metal plate that is bolted on now, which would be removed for the winch. So you will loose a little approach angle becuase of the fairlead. If you want some more specific photos, email at thyslip@nc.rr.com and I'll take what you want and send them to you. Tom | ||
| Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche) New Member Username: Jamooche Post Number: 12 Registered: 05-2003 |
I am also interested in this setup, TJM T15 with a winch. Is it difficult to use the winch due to the fact that it is more recessed underneath the bumper? | ||
| Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche) New Member Username: Jamooche Post Number: 13 Registered: 05-2003 |
Oh, and can you attach bolted on recovery points to the front of the TJM bar? Jamil | ||
| Brad Russell (Bradnc) Senior Member Username: Bradnc Post Number: 303 Registered: 03-2002 |
You can put D rings in the holes on the bottom of the bumper. They've worked fine for me. I heard once that there is a jacking point for a high-lift but I don't know how that whole thing works out. Does anyone know where/if you can jack these things? | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 441 Registered: 11-2002 |
Aren't there little holes in the bumper? If so those are jacking points, but you have to get what I believe is called a jack mate. Look over at expedition exhange, that should help. | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 442 Registered: 11-2002 |
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/tjm/t15d2.htm Here is some pictures on a DII. And I was wrong, you can just put the hi-lift in the bumper. There is a picture that shows it. | ||
| Tom Hyslip (007) Member Username: 007 Post Number: 168 Registered: 03-2002 |
I would be careful putting any recovery points on the T15. The bumper is designed to be "air bag comp" and has round crush cans built into the bumper. These are a lot stronger then the ARB crush cans that come on their air bag comp. bumpers, but I still wouldn't want to stretch the crush cans out by recovering from the bumper. This is also the reason that you need the special steel plate to mount a winch. The steel plate is bolted directly to the frame and then the winch is bolted to the plate. This way there is no stress on the bumper when you winch. If you have the winch, you can just use the hook for a recovery point on the front. The high lift won't hurt it because the crush cans only "crush" horizontally, not vertically. I have seen what can happen to ARB air bag comp. bumpers when used for a recovey point or when hit hard enough. | ||
| Rover Puppy (Rover_puppy) New Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 8 Registered: 05-2003 |
Tom- Since you have not added winch yet, what are you using for front recovery point? Do you have the steel plate on your bar? Any way to hook up something to the plate for recovery until you add winch? Assuming one must be recovered from the front, and uses the winch hook for recovery point, is that safe? Thanks- RP | ||
| Tom Hyslip (007) Member Username: 007 Post Number: 169 Registered: 03-2002 |
I have a NATO Jate ring where the stock tie down was. It is bolted directly to the frame and works fine. The bumper is designed to accomadate the the stock tie down, so the Jate ring works great. Once I get a winch, I will still use the jate ring, but I have seen the winch hook used before with out any problems. | ||
| Barry (Barry) New Member Username: Barry Post Number: 12 Registered: 02-2003 |
I have the T15(DII) with a Superwinch. I believe viewing the rope through the four small "windows" is easier to do than the limited visibility you get with the ARB. The bumper itself is NOT a suitable recovery point. The optional winch tray has two rectangular slots on the underside which accept a recovery hook. Unfortunately, the winch tray mounting (Between the frame rails) will not allow the use of Jate rings. My TJM bumper has served me well for three years of expedition style wheeling and challenging trails. -Barry | ||
| Brad Russell (Bradnc) Senior Member Username: Bradnc Post Number: 307 Registered: 03-2002 |
Someone said that you wouldn't want to recover from those holes on the bumper but I think different, even though I may be wrong. When I assembled my bumper there were several pieces. The piece that mounts to the frame has the holes in it and the bumper then mounts to that piece, so basically I'd think you would be pulling on the frame, similar to a winch, and the bumper is attached to that piece. Is that wrong? | ||
| Brad Russell (Bradnc) Senior Member Username: Bradnc Post Number: 308 Registered: 03-2002 |
Well I have a D1...I didn't know there was very much difference til i looked at the pics. Does anyone know how you can use a highlift on a D1 TJM? | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1537 Registered: 02-2002 |
Tom, Great looking D2. | ||
| One_Bad_Metro (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 369 Registered: 02-2002 |
Got pics of the JATE rings mounted on your rig? I've got a T-17 and am looking at front recovery point options. |
