| Author | Message | ||
     Eric B. (Ebbnyc) New Member Username: Ebbnyc Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2003 |
Hello, new here... I've noticed posters voice the shortcomings of the 2003 as not having CDL. My question is, what does it have then? I know it's got a locking dif, hi-lo trans, so is the the "central locking" part that's unique? And if so, how? Many Thanks, Eric | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 613 Registered: 04-2002 |
it just has tractrion control like the DIIs before it w/ no CDL | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Senior Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 268 Registered: 10-2002 |
There are no locking diffs anywhere on any stock D2, 2003 model included. They have 1 open diff in the front axel, 1 open center diff, and 1 open rear diff. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 980 Registered: 09-2002 |
Eric, north america 99 1/2 - 03 disco DOES NOT come with a Locking Diff. It does have a hi-lo trans and electronic traction controll. | ||
| Eric B. (Ebbnyc) New Member Username: Ebbnyc Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2003 |
Thanks! My understanding of DL is that it locks the axels together so that all 4 wheels rotate at same speed & torque, correct? So my next question is how much of an advantage is the LD over traction control? Could you describe a situation where it would really show to be an advantage? | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Senior Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 269 Registered: 10-2002 |
To make all 4 wheels rotate together on a disco, or any other AWD vehicle, would require 3 locking differentials. A center diff lock, will insure that at least one front and one rear wheel will turn. On a D2 with out even the center diff lock, you will always have at least 1 wheel spining. LOL | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 128 Registered: 01-2003 |
The 2003 DII has ETC, just like all the other DIIs. ETC uses the ABS system to brake a spinning wheel, sending power to the less-spinning wheel. Theoretically, you can have just one wheel with traction, and still maintain forward progress. However, when faced with heavy off-road situations, the hesitation of the ETC (waiting for a wheel to really spin) before it kicks in is often too little, too late. For on-road driving, ETC is ideal. It is automatic, with no driver input necessary. When off-road, however, many prefer to have a big hunk of metal locking the wheels together, rather than a computer telling the wheel what to do. | ||
| Michael Noe (Noee) Senior Member Username: Noee Post Number: 666 Registered: 03-2002 |
Yes, many examples, anytime you need to maintain forward momentum, ETC will slow you down whereas the CDL will not. Also, if you'd like your tires to spin to clean themselves, ETC makes this hard to accomplish. There is a lot to be said for a tire that will clean itself quickly and dig in on the next revolution and to do this, it needs to be able to spin consistently. I've waffled on this for a long time, I now have another truck that has the "old fashioned" style of 4wd (always locked f/r in low) but my D2 has an aftermarket CDL lever and I've finally come to the conclusion that ETC is great with the CDL in specific circumstances, good by itself in slippery on-road and some off-road scenarios, but it just doesn't work well in more difficult offroad situations. Lately, I find with the D2 that I will turn it off before entering difficult obstacles. 'Nuff said. | ||
| Greg O'Brien (Grego) New Member Username: Grego Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2003 |
The Disco II actually has a center diff lock (in Oz at least) but no way to activate it. I have been led to believe the diff is the same as in the Disco I but LR chose not to let the driver lock it. There are kits available to remedy this. The new look model allows activation of the diff lock which is proof enough that even LR accept that the locking diff is better than ETC off road. Funny part is - Land Rover in Oz is making a big deal in their advertising of the "now with center diff lock" angle when it was alway in the Disco I and LR stuffed up for Disco II - gotta love that marketing spin! |
