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Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i'm thinking about getting fog lights for my brush guard and i was wondering if anyone had 3 hella 4000's on there or if that many would fit
 

Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
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Post Number: 257
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

wont fit. 2 would work.
 

Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
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Post Number: 258
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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

cool Sr. member status..
 

Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i figure if i drilled new holes and tilted them in an arc shape they would fit but i guess i would have to take measurements
 

Blake Luse (Muddyrover)
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Post Number: 891
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

you could make bring some mounts long ways off your brush gaurd in a W form and they might fit. It might look funny, but not if done right.
 

Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hey blake what kind of wheels do you have? Rock Crawlers? If so where did you purchase them.
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
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Post Number: 388
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I would put about a dozen up there. And add a few more to the roof.

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Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

three on the brush guard, 4 on the rack, and 2 hella 550's on the back of the roof rack
 

Blake Luse (Muddyrover)
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Post Number: 893
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Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Wheels are from gulfcoastrovers.com
 

Roland Kutasi (Disco1)
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Post Number: 255
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you fit a shit load of lights on your truck you might need to upgrade your alternator.
 

Reed Cotton (Reedcotton)
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Post Number: 153
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You can also weld some mounting tabs to the top of the bar, and mount some up there.
 

Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 61
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Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yea i would like to stay away from that though thanx for the the input
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Post Number: 105
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

2 4000's is all you'll get on the front bar. You can make 3 500's fit, though...FWIW...
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
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Post Number: 693
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I get plenty of light with the two 4000's I have up front. I believe the brush bar from $G is designed for three if you must have three.

http://www.safarigard.com/

Yep, right there on the home page.
 

Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 69
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Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i'm just gona go with 3 hella black magic's instead to keep things simple
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Post Number: 111
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Still won't fit.
 

Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 77
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Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i'm gona angle them off so the they will fit. like put them in an arc formation i've seen it done before.
 

One_Bad_Metro (Koby)
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Post Number: 384
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Zach is right. even two Hella 4Ks won't fit so that they work.

The problem is not the width, but the height of the brush bar. The lights just end up tilting down.

bad
 

Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

black magic lights measure 8 7/16" high and my brush bar is 11" high where i'm able to mount the light so there would be no problem with them bending down. i dunno what kind of a-frame bar you have but my brush guard is nothing like it.
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Post Number: 113
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian, trust us...we know what we're talking about. You WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FIT 3 BLACK MAGIC LIGHTS ON A FACTORY BRUSH BAR AND MAKE IT LOOK NICE. If you do get it to work, it will look like shit. If you want 3 lights, either get a SG bumper or go with 500's. Hell, I'm getting a new bumper soon, and I'll send you MY factory bar that's already GOT 3 holes in it.
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The height is not the problem---you wouldn't even be able to fit them if they were all touching.
 

One_Bad_Metro (Koby)
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Post Number: 387
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian-

It's obvious you need to learn by trial.

Good luck.

Send us pics of your setup.
 

Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

will do
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jesus...
 

Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

 

Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

trust them brian, they are right...
 

One_Bad_Metro (Koby)
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Post Number: 390
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Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Chris-

Look at Brian's profile. He's 16. He will not listen. Just needs to waste his money on the lights and fit them to actually see that they will not fit.

That is fine by me. It's his money. Eventually he will buy a bumper or rack and have a real use for those lights.
 

Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
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Post Number: 593
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes he is a younging, as am I. He is just a little stuborn thats it. He will waste his money on stuff since he knows he is right (which in this case he is clearly wrong). And like you said it is HIS money so he can waste it all he wants...
 

Andrew Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

And then we'll see, in the Classifieds section, For Sale: One Hella 4000 off-road light, mounted once, never used...

;)
 

Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian, easy fix: sell your rover, buy a toyota, and do whatever the fuck you want to it. people won't make fun of you if you have a botched up toyota, because that's what they would expect. Call me when you get stuck.
 

Wicks (Wicks)
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian, be sure to take pictures and show us all how you rig it. Maybe we'll learn something.

It happens that I am about to mount 6 Hella 3000s on my Defender (TWO up front and four up top), and am wondering if any of you all have tried running more than two lights on a single circuit (wire, relay and switch)? I would like to route a single high-guage wire through the roll bar to make it super-clean.

Thoughts?
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Username: Mountenn

Post Number: 144
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have 3 on one circuit on the front brush bar...NOT 4000's (obviously). I also have 4 FF300's on the rack running on the same switch...straight-wired, though...I've been meaning to stick a relay in there for months...
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Username: Mountenn

Post Number: 148
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

FINALLY this thread is showing some positive output...
 

Wicks (Wicks)
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Assume those are 500s? Similar power going through the line, so perhaps that is A-OK...

Just waiting for John Lee to upbraid me for not making a perfect technically flawless harness. ;)
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Post Number: 151
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Correct--500's for now, but I'm about to re-do the front end with RTE slimline bumper/2 Hella 4000's/Warn 9.5ti. Anyway, the 500's are wired to my brights, and I have never had any problem at all with them. Just make sure you use T-taps or something like that on the wires instead of splicing the cheap bastard way. Good luck.

Zach

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