| Author | Message | ||
     Zach Jaggers (Mountenn) Member Username: Mountenn Post Number: 102 Registered: 03-2003 |
Alright, I went wheeling a few days ago, and got into a "situation." To make a long story short, I had to be pulled out, and the next day The Rover was making some seriously disturbing noises from the rear end. When I'm accelerating, I can't hear a thing. When I get off the gas pedal, though, I hear this metallic "click" that slows down as the wheels slow down. It sounds like it's coming from the rear axle. I got my brother to watch the back wheels while I drove it around the cul-de-sac, and he said that the back right tire was wobbling in and out a bit. HELP! What do I need to do to check? I can't drive it like this. | ||
| Brian Goodner (Bluewater) Member Username: Bluewater Post Number: 66 Registered: 03-2003 |
i'd say you bend the axle if you had most your weight on it at the time then thats probably what did it...i kno a friend of mine who had that problem in north georgia he ended up having to buy a new axle but if your looking for a new one a friend of mine has about 5 wrecked rovers and i could look into getting you one...i'm sure he'd let me have it. -Brian | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 341 Registered: 11-2002 |
Broken diff.. Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 111 Registered: 02-2003 |
Yep. Broken rear diff. Pull both rear halfshafts and the rear driveshaft, and drive it in front wheel drive with your CDL locked before the rear end grenades on you. You can drive it like that for a little while until you get the rear end fixed. Time for a Detroit...... - Axel | ||
| Zach Jaggers (Mountenn) Member Username: Mountenn Post Number: 104 Registered: 03-2003 |
Maxi-drive with HD axles...just don't have the money for it right now. Is it possible to fix a diff if its broken? I have a buddy that has a set of ring and pinion gears laying in his garage... | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 375 Registered: 10-2002 |
you can buy my spare stock open diff just to get you around. nah. get a new locker. | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 112 Registered: 02-2003 |
If the ring and pinion is the problem, that would help. But more likely it's the center pin/spider gears. But pull your halfshafts first and check them. If they look ok, it's the diff for sure. - Axel | ||
| Zach Jaggers (Mountenn) Member Username: Mountenn Post Number: 107 Registered: 03-2003 |
17mm on the flange? | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 377 Registered: 10-2002 |
yep. 17mm. I thought you already had a locker in and that's what died. if you want another open diff email me. | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 413 Registered: 04-2001 |
Seems more like a wheel bearing than a diff. The wobble is the give away. Put it up in the air and shake the wheels, no you can't drive it that way. Post back with the result of the shake test and we will help. Ron | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Senior Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 320 Registered: 10-2002 |
Cross shaft and spider gears is most likely, then wheel bearings and Axle, last might be U-joint. Cheaper to put in ARB(Detroit) than put crap back into crap if you know what I mean. | ||
| D. Chapman (1hank1) Senior Member Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 319 Registered: 02-2003 |
Sure its not a bent rim? If you have wheel wobble and a scrubing sound, could it be the wheel hitting the brake caliper or something? | ||
| D. Chapman (1hank1) Senior Member Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 320 Registered: 02-2003 |
I have a scrubing sound or soft knock coming from my truck at slow speed >10MPH. From inside the truck it sounds like its coming from the rear end, but really it the transfer brake drum. It's has a flat spot on one side from where it hit a rock or something hard. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 345 Registered: 11-2002 |
Ron , how the hell you gonna "Shake" a rear wheel assembly with the axle still bolted up and the pads against the rotor ? lol You dont think a little thing like that might keep you from being able to move the thing ? Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 346 Registered: 11-2002 |
Here is yet another instance of something going on longer then it should. If its coming from the rear. Get under there and yank that shit apart. Your issue will present itself in less time then this thread has gone on. One quick hint , remove the rear fill plug and look in with a flash light , you may have to rotate the diff a little to see the spider gears but I am betting you will find your issue pretty quick. And Ron , a tire dont "Wobble" with a bad gearing , it just lays in at the top. What the hell makes you think its gonna wobble ? Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| D. Chapman (1hank1) Senior Member Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 322 Registered: 02-2003 |
Kyle, I was just wondering why the diff would make the rear wheel wobble? I'm not saying your wrong I was just wondering why that would happen. If the bearings, hub nuts, brake caliper and pads are all holding the rotor and axle in, why would a busted diff make the wheel wobble? | ||
| Zach Jaggers (Mountenn) Member Username: Mountenn Post Number: 108 Registered: 03-2003 |
Pulled the halfshafts lastnight...they were fine. I'll try and look into the diff tonight or tomorrow. Pretty sure it's not a bent rim, but I'll check that too. Wheel bearing doesn't seem likely, either--no wet spots on the wheel until I pulled the axle and it dripped. I'll post back after I look in the diff. Thanks for the feedback. Zach | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 420 Registered: 04-2001 |
"how the hell you gonna "Shake" a rear wheel assembly with the axle still bolted up and the pads against the rotor ? lol You dont think a little thing like that might keep you from being able to move the thing ?" From practical experience the wheel will move if the bearing is bad even with all the crap still there. Ron | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 421 Registered: 04-2001 |
"What the hell makes you think its gonna wobble ? Well Alyssa wrecked her bearing the thing wobbled, when dom toasted his in the 109, it wobbled. experience I guess? | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 349 Registered: 11-2002 |
This interests me Ron. In many years of being a mechanic I never ever saw a wheel "Wobble" when it had a bad bearing. Including my own!!! I have however seen plenty of em lay in at the tops and felt the brakes go to shit because the inboard pad and piston was being pushed back into its bore from the lean. Now you break a diff up and you can get all the above mentioned shit going all at once. Here is my guess "from experience". The boy broke his diff. When he did that , little chunks fell to the bottom. When they fell to the bottom the ring gear picked em up and the heal of the ring gear got burred. This wont show up on accel but make a interesting sound when you let off the pedal (sound will vary depending on how many teeth got it) . Turning can make some interesting sounds as well. If you want to find out what it is the quick and dirty way. Put it in low gear (Dont lock it) and mat the long flat pedal (Yes I am being sarcastic) . I am betting that the rest of the wounded parts jump right out of the rear cover and onto the road so that this thread can end and we can all know exactly what it is. Of course you will need to weld the housing up but what the hell. It makes the problem easy to diagnose..... Another hint , dont just replace the carrier and put it back together , take a die grinder or dremmel or whatever ya got and knock those burrs off the heal of the ring gear. If you dont the sound will remain , wont really hurt anything but your ears but it will remain. Let us know what it turns out to be. Ron has been wanting to see me be real wrong for a very long time now  Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 223 Registered: 10-2002 |
This is why I wish I had fully set up third members and extra axles sitting in my garage... When you drained the diff didn't you see metallic crap coming out too? | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 505 Registered: 02-2003 |
yeah it is a nice thing greg,, hehe. pick up a parts car for dirt cheap. get spare trans t-case axels third members | ||
| D. Chapman (1hank1) Senior Member Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 331 Registered: 02-2003 |
Anybody know of any "parts" disco's on the east coast? | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 225 Registered: 10-2002 |
I've got 5 vehicles now filling my garage and driveway. If I had a "parts RRC" I'd have to park it on my front lawn and people might start thinking I came from Pennsylvania... | ||
| Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Senior Member Username: Glenn Post Number: 650 Registered: 02-2002 |
LOL... ah, so that's where my neighbors probably came from... LOL They have a typical set up, rectangular property with the house on the middle-front and a paved driveway to it's side. The lawn was immaculate all the way around when they moved, but now they decided to make their own circular driveway just by driving the cars around instead of backing them up... -needless to say, the lawn went to shit. | ||
| Zach Jaggers (Mountenn) Member Username: Mountenn Post Number: 118 Registered: 03-2003 |
You sure they aren't from Tennessee? We have a lot of those here... Anyway, I haven't had time to check out the differential yet--hopefully tonight or tomorrow sometime. I'll post when I do. |
