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Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
New Member Username: Ricardo
Post Number: 2 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 08:19 pm: |
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Does anybody know if it is normal for the rear inside wheel to slightly bounce and skip when making sharp turns? In the rain, the skipping wheel would make a "chirp" sound. Thanks for your time. |
   
Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu)
Senior Member Username: Danielcovaciu
Post Number: 299 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 08:29 pm: |
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This is not normal and it is bad. Sounds like your center diff is locked. Move the transfer case lever (the little cute one forward of the shifter) to the lower right position. You should not drive on dry pavement with the diff engaged as it can damage your transfer case. Dan |
   
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Senior Member Username: Lrover94
Post Number: 850 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 08:29 pm: |
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do you have a locker? mike w |
   
Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
New Member Username: Ricardo
Post Number: 3 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:16 pm: |
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Thanks for replying guys. Mike: Is a "locker" an after market part? The car is stock, no after market products are installed. Dan: The Disco is automatic, and the transfer case level is always set on high (out of L/N/H). What do you mean by moving the case lever to lower right position? Thanks again. |
   
Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Senior Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 273 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:23 pm: |
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hmm. so lets see there is that little picture type thing in front of the little shifter knob. WHy dont you move it around and see what happens? Shouldnt be scared of it. It is suppose to be in the lower left position. hte lower right postion is high un locked lower left is high lock push it foreward and you are in low. guess you have never interacted with your Disco that much. |
   
Evan (Bahnstorm)
New Member Username: Bahnstorm
Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:25 pm: |
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A locker is an aftermarket part so that would not be the problem. The transfer case lever, the one in front of the autmatic transmission lever has 4 positions, locked high, locked low and unlocked high and unlocked low. Make sure it is moved to the passenger side, this is the unlocked side and that it is in high. Normally if the the difflock is engaged a light will come on near the speedo, that looks like a car chassis, 4 wheels on a frame. You don't want to be driving at speed with the difflock on it will wreck things and would cause the wheels to chirp. Evan |
   
Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
New Member Username: Ricardo
Post Number: 4 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:45 pm: |
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Sorry, just got my Disco second hand. The case lever is set to unlocked high, and still, when I try to drive in a circle, the rear inside wheel skips and the body jerks. |
   
Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Senior Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 276 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:56 pm: |
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maybe it does have a locker in the rear. Take it out and experiment with the center diff lock. |
   
thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 300 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:15 pm: |
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could have a rear locker...could have a bad rear open differential if the center diff were locked it would be giving pronounced jerky feedback in the steering wheel around tight corners. |
   
Bill Butt (Azbutter)
New Member Username: Azbutter
Post Number: 23 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:27 pm: |
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Geez - be easy on the guy. He's just trying to figure out what the problem is. This is how people learn this stuff... Ricardo - see if someone can watch while you turn in a tight circle. Does the wheel actually stop to make the "chirp" or does it lung forward to "chirp"? It may do both... It could be a rear differential probelm. Keep posting - some of the guys will probably give you a definitive answer... OR...don't drive in a tight circle...problem solved! |
   
thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 301 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:30 pm: |
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?????? didnt think I said anything wrong? man people have thin skin around here these days |
   
christopher mroz (Discox)
New Member Username: Discox
Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:33 pm: |
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sounds like a rear pinion may be locked, your rear end has clutches that may be locked in |
   
Bill Butt (Azbutter)
New Member Username: Azbutter
Post Number: 25 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:37 pm: |
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Nothing wrong - just don't want to scare him away. Maybe we'll need him someday... |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 602 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:55 am: |
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maybe you are just skipping because you are taking the turn too fast...maybe? |
   
Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp)
Member Username: Mike_rupp
Post Number: 214 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 07:45 am: |
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Christopher ??? A rear pinion locked? First off, there's only one. If it's "locked" there's going to be some bigger issues than a tire chirping. Clutches? There's spider gears and side gears. There aren't any clutches in the stock diff. |
   
thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 302 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 08:21 am: |
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azbutter....i believe your spine is soft as butter i went back and read again and nobody(including me) said anything that was harsh or hard on ricardo. if any of the above seams that way to you, you better find another site to frequent because the people here are gonna really push your buttons. thom ricardo, after re reading your post...discos all spin the inside rear tire a little turning tight in the rain. then power is transferred to the front axle and it pulls the vehicle through the corner. I believe there is nothing wrong with the new to you disco. mm |
   
Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
New Member Username: Ricardo
Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 11:55 am: |
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Thanks everyone. I jacked the front wheel up with the transmission in neutral, and the diff lock on high lock and unlock. Then did the same with the rear wheel. Diff High Lock: -front wheel would turn about 1/5 and then not turn any further. -same for the rear wheel Diff High Unlock: (knob in lower right position) -front wheel turned about 1/2 then stopped. Would not turn any further. -rear wheel turned about 1/5 then would not turn any further. I am now concerned that there is something wrong with the center diff locking mechnism. And that is the reason why even while the diff is unlocked, the front and rear diffs are not released to allow the tires to rotate on their own. I bought the Disco with 40,000 miles on it. Private owner, dealer serviced all the way. Am a bit worried now... Bill: the wheel lungs forward to "chirp" when making slow turns... |
   
Scott Tschantz (Scott)
New Member Username: Scott
Post Number: 25 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:20 pm: |
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Ricardo where are you located at maybe someone close to you would take a look at it for you |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 615 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:21 pm: |
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hey scott you coming down with us on saturday still? |
   
Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
New Member Username: Ricardo
Post Number: 6 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 07:12 pm: |
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I live in Queens, NY. I'm hoping to avoid the dealers as much as possible before figuring out what's wrong. Any enthusiasts in the local area? |
   
christopher mroz (Discox)
New Member Username: Discox
Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 10:21 pm: |
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Cluthes....there are clutches in your rear diff. land rovers do not have a posi rear end. the clutches disengage when traveling around curves or turns because your outter wheel is traveling further than your inside wheel. when your cluthes lock or seize. your outside wheel is turning the same as the inside causing the skip or chirping |
   
thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 303 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 11:31 pm: |
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quote:Cluthes....there are clutches in your rear diff. land rovers do not have a posi rear end. the clutches disengage when traveling around curves or turns because your outter wheel is traveling further than your inside wheel. when your cluthes lock or seize. your outside wheel is turning the same as the inside causing the skip or chirping
wrong! sorry but the disco has a simple open diff as mentioned above...two side gears that ride on the axles shafts and two spider gears that ride on a single pinion shaft .
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Scott Tschantz (Scott)
New Member Username: Scott
Post Number: 26 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:12 am: |
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YES |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 633 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:14 am: |
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nice |
   
Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 362 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:47 am: |
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Damn, maybe it's not my VC after all. Maybe it's one of the "clutches" or perhaps one of the "rear pinions" that got "locked in"  |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Senior Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 794 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:47 pm: |
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I really wanna comment here - but Musky has said enough DiscoX - lol Bill |