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Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Does anybody know if it is normal for the rear inside wheel to slightly bounce and skip when making sharp turns? In the rain, the skipping wheel would make a "chirp" sound.
Thanks for your time.
 

Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu)
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Post Number: 299
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This is not normal and it is bad. Sounds like your center diff is locked. Move the transfer case lever (the little cute one forward of the shifter) to the lower right position. You should not drive on dry pavement with the diff engaged as it can damage your transfer case.

Dan
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
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Post Number: 850
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

do you have a locker?

mike w
 

Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for replying guys.
Mike: Is a "locker" an after market part?
The car is stock, no after market products are installed.

Dan: The Disco is automatic, and the transfer case level is always set on high (out of L/N/H). What do you mean by moving the case lever to lower right position?

Thanks again.
 

Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
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Post Number: 273
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hmm. so lets see there is that little picture type thing in front of the little shifter knob. WHy dont you move it around and see what happens? Shouldnt be scared of it. It is suppose to be in the lower left position. hte lower right postion is high un locked lower left is high lock push it foreward and you are in low. guess you have never interacted with your Disco that much.
 

Evan (Bahnstorm)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A locker is an aftermarket part so that would not be the problem.
The transfer case lever, the one in front of the autmatic transmission lever has 4 positions, locked high, locked low and unlocked high and unlocked low. Make sure it is moved to the passenger side, this is the unlocked side and that it is in high. Normally if the the difflock is engaged a light will come on near the speedo, that looks like a car chassis, 4 wheels on a frame. You don't want to be driving at speed with the difflock on it will wreck things and would cause the wheels to chirp.

Evan
 

Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry, just got my Disco second hand.
The case lever is set to unlocked high, and still, when I try to drive in a circle, the rear inside wheel skips and the body jerks.
 

Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
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Post Number: 276
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

maybe it does have a locker in the rear. Take it out and experiment with the center diff lock.
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Post Number: 300
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

could have a rear locker...could have a bad rear open differential

if the center diff were locked it would be giving pronounced jerky feedback in the steering wheel around tight corners.
 

Bill Butt (Azbutter)
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Geez - be easy on the guy. He's just trying to figure out what the problem is. This is how people learn this stuff...

Ricardo - see if someone can watch while you turn in a tight circle. Does the wheel actually stop to make the "chirp" or does it lung forward to "chirp"? It may do both...

It could be a rear differential probelm. Keep posting - some of the guys will probably give you a definitive answer...

OR...don't drive in a tight circle...problem solved!
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Post Number: 301
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

??????

didnt think I said anything wrong?

man people have thin skin around here these days
 

christopher mroz (Discox)
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

sounds like a rear pinion may be locked, your rear end has clutches that may be locked in
 

Bill Butt (Azbutter)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nothing wrong - just don't want to scare him away. Maybe we'll need him someday...
 

Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
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Post Number: 602
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

maybe you are just skipping because you are taking the turn too fast...maybe?
 

Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp)
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Post Number: 214
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Christopher ???

A rear pinion locked? First off, there's only one. If it's "locked" there's going to be some bigger issues than a tire chirping.

Clutches? There's spider gears and side gears. There aren't any clutches in the stock diff.
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

azbutter....i believe your spine is soft as butter

i went back and read again and nobody(including me) said anything that was harsh or hard on ricardo.

if any of the above seams that way to you, you better find another site to frequent because the people here are gonna really push your buttons.

thom



ricardo,

after re reading your post...discos all spin the inside rear tire a little turning tight in the rain. then power is transferred to the front axle and it pulls the vehicle through the corner. I believe there is nothing wrong with the new to you disco.

mm
 

Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks everyone.

I jacked the front wheel up with the transmission in neutral, and the diff lock on high lock and unlock. Then did the same with the rear wheel.

Diff High Lock:
-front wheel would turn about 1/5 and then not turn any further.
-same for the rear wheel

Diff High Unlock: (knob in lower right position)
-front wheel turned about 1/2 then stopped. Would not turn any further.
-rear wheel turned about 1/5 then would not turn any further.

I am now concerned that there is something
wrong with the center diff locking mechnism. And that is the reason why even while the diff is unlocked, the front and rear diffs are not
released to allow the tires to rotate on their own.

I bought the Disco with 40,000 miles on it. Private owner, dealer serviced all the way. Am a bit worried now...

Bill: the wheel lungs forward to "chirp" when making slow turns...
 

Scott Tschantz (Scott)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ricardo where are you located at maybe someone close to you would take a look at it for you
 

Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
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Post Number: 615
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hey scott you coming down with us on saturday still?
 

Ricardo Hidamari (Ricardo)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I live in Queens, NY. I'm hoping to avoid the dealers as much as possible before figuring out what's wrong. Any enthusiasts in the local area?
 

christopher mroz (Discox)
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Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Cluthes....there are clutches in your rear diff. land rovers do not have a posi rear end. the clutches disengage when traveling around curves or turns because your outter wheel is traveling further than your inside wheel. when your cluthes lock or seize. your outside wheel is turning the same as the inside causing the skip or chirping
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Post Number: 303
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


quote:

Cluthes....there are clutches in your rear diff. land rovers do not have a posi rear end. the clutches disengage when traveling around curves or turns because your outter wheel is traveling further than your inside wheel. when your cluthes lock or seize. your outside wheel is turning the same as the inside causing the skip or chirping




wrong!

sorry but the disco has a simple open diff as mentioned above...two side gears that ride on the axles shafts and two spider gears that ride on a single pinion shaft .

 

Scott Tschantz (Scott)
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Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

YES
 

Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
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Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

nice
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Post Number: 362
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn, maybe it's not my VC after all. Maybe it's one of the "clutches" or perhaps one of the "rear pinions" that got "locked in" w
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
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Post Number: 794
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I really wanna comment here - but Musky has said enough :-)

DiscoX - lol

Bill

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