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Christopher Boese (Christopher)
Member Username: Christopher
Post Number: 80 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 01:46 pm: |
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http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=6126&sid=178&n=158 |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 205 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 02:54 pm: |
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What a joke, they are gonna water down and milk the Hummer name for whatever they can get out it, what next a Hummer H4 based on a Geo Tracker? The only Hummer worth having is the H1. |
   
Gil Stevens (Gil)
Senior Member Username: Gil
Post Number: 334 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 02:58 pm: |
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it may be a joke.. but theyll sell ass-loads of them. |
   
Ron L (Ronl)
Member Username: Ronl
Post Number: 105 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 03:08 pm: |
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I wonder what the 4-runner is doing on that transporter. |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 619 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 03:14 pm: |
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Yea I was wondering the same thing...maybe it is a comparsion they are trying to make the H3 like the 4-runner. |
   
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
Senior Member Username: Jsq
Post Number: 385 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 04:23 pm: |
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what's up with leafs in the rear? |
   
Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
Senior Member Username: Andythoma
Post Number: 283 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 04:58 pm: |
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Aren't the trailblazer's leaf's in the rear? I would guess that they use the same platform. How does it fit in size to the trailblazer? Isn't that the competition for the 4 runner? |
   
Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu)
Senior Member Username: Danielcovaciu
Post Number: 304 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 05:07 pm: |
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Everyone dogs on the H2 and I wouldnt really argue in its favor but..... the only vehicle of any sort that GM sold over the past year without huge rebates or cheap financing is the H2. They sold everyone they could make at full price. They finanlly made an auto that people want. Whats wrong with that? If the H3 does that well then it will be another great business move. |
   
Eric Pena (Evalp)
Senior Member Username: Evalp
Post Number: 549 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 05:43 pm: |
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Why even call it a Hummer? |
   
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
Senior Member Username: Jsq
Post Number: 387 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 05:52 pm: |
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Daniel, People are stupid. What's your point? |
   
Christopher Boese (Christopher)
Member Username: Christopher
Post Number: 82 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 05:58 pm: |
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The H3, according to the article here, will be "a derivative of the upcoming Chevrolet Colorado / GMC Canyon mid-size trucks." See http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=5659 and scroll down. This explains the pickup-style leaf springs. |
   
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Senior Member Username: V22guy
Post Number: 1619 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:17 pm: |
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Yep, they'll sell millions of them to the minivan ditching soccer moms of this country.
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Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
Member Username: Mountenn
Post Number: 154 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:59 pm: |
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I heard somewhere (may have been this BBS) that the Hummer H2 has the highest rate of owner dis-satisfaction out of all vehicles. Period. My dad wanted one earlier this year, but we got that out of his system FAST. To think that he was going to trade his 2001 for it...the horror... |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 206 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 08:13 pm: |
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Why doesn't GM just slap the Hummer name on everything, how about a 2004 Hummer H5 Aztek, or a Hummer Venture Minivan, even better, just rip out all the GM logos on all the POS cars and trucks that they have sitting on their lots and put Hummer logos on them, maybe then they'll move. |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 631 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:08 am: |
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yes Alan that might work, the masses are stupid! |
   
Steve R (Barton)
Member Username: Barton
Post Number: 138 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 01:37 pm: |
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I may be stupid, but I'm not dubm! I agree that GM is going to milk the shit out of the Hummer name until it doesn't mean a thing. They should have started by making the H2 with gear-driven hubs and a real CTIS and charge about $90,000 for it. Had they done that....I think people would consider it a "real" Hummer. After that they could then make a smaller version for $70,000 and continue making it cheaper with various lesser-models and cashing in on all the people THINKING they're buying a Hummer. They are in business to make money and sell vehicles...not provide the extremely small minority with a truly offroad capable vehicle. As for the "disatisfaction" quotient....that's bullshit. Everyone I've ever run into loves the heck out of their H2. It's only because everyone agreeably notes the sucky gas mileage that the warped statistic exist on disatisfaction. I've never met a single H2 owner who isn't thrilled and ear to ear with smiles. What will happen is what HAS happened: people will call the H1 a "real" Hummer and everything else is just a modified GM truck. Course, what people don't know is that the H1 is made from several "other" manufactuers parts: GM, Ford, Chrysler..all sorts of stuff. I think you guys are a bit nervious: the H3 may just roll in at around the same size as your Disco's and if is has a locking transfer case, rear axle locker and a bit more clearance.......it's gonna hit too close to home. |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 640 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 01:41 pm: |
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that thing looks strangely like a freelander to me |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 641 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 01:42 pm: |
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LOL, I Aint Skeered of that thing Steve. he he |
   
Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
Senior Member Username: Andythoma
Post Number: 288 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 01:46 pm: |
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If the H3 has all of that(lockers and such) I'd actually give it a good look. I bet the disatifaction quotint comes more from greenies who want to try and disqualify the hummer so less people buy them. So Steve, how does it feel to be the root of al evil and drive so bad for the environment?  |
   
Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu)
Senior Member Username: Danielcovaciu
Post Number: 309 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 01:55 pm: |
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Hummer crushes disco!
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Steve R (Barton)
Member Username: Barton
Post Number: 139 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:53 pm: |
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Daniel... I don't think that's a Disco under the H1....but if it were....this picture could reproductively explain how they produced an H3 Do Hummers suck? yes they do! If you put a supercharger on one they also blow. And they swallow gas too! So what have we learned: Hummers involve sucking, blowing and swallowing. And you guys still want nothin' to do with 'em? Carter...did ya check out my video? The disatisfaction issue is firmly centered around 4 major issues: Cost, gas consumption, difficulty to get into and width/ease of parking. Turns out the H2 is NOT the ideal vehicle for yuppie soccer moms. Who cares...let's go offroading!  |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 647 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 09:02 pm: |
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No I didn't Steve... I was on a computer lab computer when the thread was hot and it wouldn't let me download the file there, I sort of forgot about it afterwards. Let me check it out now. |
   
Christopher Boese (Christopher)
Member Username: Christopher
Post Number: 83 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 02:52 pm: |
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I've also read about "dissatisfaction" with Hummers. Steve's right - it was about gas mileage, not about build quality or capability. Having seen Steve's videos, I'm prepared to say that the H2, at least compared with other GM trucks, is a real offroad vehicle. The H3, being based on a pickup, with rear leaf springs and light-duty components, might not be. |
   
Christopher Boese (Christopher)
Member Username: Christopher
Post Number: 84 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 02:54 pm: |
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PS - Still, when I see an H2 parked somewhere, immaculately clean and obviously never having been used offroad, I mutter hatefully to myself... |
   
Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
Senior Member Username: Rubisco98
Post Number: 917 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 03:01 pm: |
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I know that I'm going to get flamed, but I think the H3 looks kinda nice. It will be a big seller that is for sure. Trail-worthy and rugged...I'm sure it won't be, but sell the heck out them they will.. |
   
Steve R (Barton)
Member Username: Barton
Post Number: 140 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 04:09 am: |
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I seriously think that IS a freelander that they're playing around with. That "spy shot" was just a bogus thing. All the H3 recon I've got indicates the thing looks very similar to an H2. Chris....you said the H2 is a real offroad vehicle: I wouldn't go that far! If you really wanna go offroad....a shorter wheelbase and SFA would likely serve better. What the H2 is...is a darn good full-sized vehicle that is fairly well suited to absorb more abuse then a typical GM truck. If you want a reasonable offroad, perhaps you should check out a LR Discovery! As for your comment about the immaculate H2's you see....yeah, it's kinda pathetic, but just figure those pavement princesses will one day be the prestine H2 YOU buy!!! Robert....uh...well...what the heck: flame you!  |
   
A. Ali (Alia176)
Member Username: Alia176
Post Number: 64 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 09:03 am: |
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If you make it, they'll buy it! |
   
R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Senior Member Username: Rover50987
Post Number: 605 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 01:12 am: |
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That photo doesn't look right. If it is a Hummer, then at least they are trying to put it up against a real truck - the 4Runner. But it doesn't even resemble a Hummer. Like some others here have noted, it looks more like a Freelander with the new stupid Disco mixed in. But what in the world is with those leaf springs? Just proves that they really are pimping the Hummer name to put on bad GM ideas that didn't sell the first time around. And that photo of the HI on top of something - the guy was taking his frustrations out on someone who had screwed him over. It was in Portland on the news the other day, but I didn't catch the whole story - it was my bed time. http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net |
   
Jason Hume (Diflock)
New Member Username: Diflock
Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:07 pm: |
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I think it's a Rogh model of the FJ Cruiser from Toyota (see link). Going for the whole retro land cruiser look, notice the white grill and round head lamps. http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/look_ahead/fj_cruiser/cruiser.html Nice site this is my first post, plan on purchasing a disco || next week or so. |
   
Greg (Gparrish)
Senior Member Username: Gparrish
Post Number: 1308 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 03:33 pm: |
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What absolutely amazes me is the number of those Hummers that I see running around South West Florida decked out with more chrome railing than my boston whaler. I mean, god bless, a chrome roof rack? chrome brush guard, chrome this, chrome that, chrome gas flap, geez............. Even saw one yesterday with all that shit on it and had rims that must have been 22 or 23 inches in diameter, and when the truck stopped the center kept spinning. What a joke. |
   
Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
Senior Member Username: Andythoma
Post Number: 363 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 03:54 pm: |
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You can vote on the FJ concept from Jason's link above. I vote yes, I give a thumbs up to any vehicle like that, maybe it could help bring the defender back to the us. Or at least give us options in vehicles to wheel with. |
   
Tom V (Cozmo)
Member Username: Cozmo
Post Number: 170 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 05:19 am: |
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Yeah Greg there are a bunch of getto H2s here in the G.N.O.. The one thing I havn't see yet is a lowered H2 so if anyone has a pic please post it. Is it just me or do yellow H2s look like schoolbusses? The H3 seems like typical corpate thinking. The H2 being a watered down H1 sold well. Therefore a watered down H2 will sell even better. |
   
Perry Ray Miller (Discojunky)
New Member Username: Discojunky
Post Number: 12 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 08:27 pm: |
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Hey, I saw a picture of a H2 going down a dirt road once. |
   
Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Member Username: Rover_puppy
Post Number: 113 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 09:21 pm: |
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I was put in touch with Chris at Boomco about joey pack tire covers. He said they were thinking of making a prototype tire cover for Discoverys that says: HUMMER RECOVERY VEHICLE Now when I see the ever increasing number of Hummers in my area, I think of that and giggle! |
   
Brian Goodner (Bluewater)
Member Username: Bluewater
Post Number: 90 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:13 am: |
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you could always just buy a sticker that said HUMMER RECOVERY VEHICLE i've seen those before. |
   
David Marchand (Dmarchand)
Member Username: Dmarchand
Post Number: 194 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:11 am: |
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Comments on this? http://www.hummerdinger.com/ |
   
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy
Post Number: 1773 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:19 am: |
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Dave, That sight is comical. However, I must admit that if I had to cash to lay down on a Hummer, I would buy one. Greg, I saw one of those chromed out versions here in Jacksonville. That thing was perfectly clean and polished. What is up with those wheels that keep moving after the vehicle stops? Man, that is weird. |
   
Greg Hirst (Gregh)
Senior Member Username: Gregh
Post Number: 275 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:17 pm: |
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"Ride of the Valkyries" horn tunes?!! I want that in my Rover!! However, it would have to be a full orchestra recording... (Remember-"I love the smell of Napalm in the morning. Smells like...VICTORY!") |
   
Erik Olson (Jon)
Senior Member Username: Jon
Post Number: 420 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:30 am: |
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To think those cheeky Sierra Club folks could put out something humorous. They're the same people who brought us the Incredibly Ginormous Wildfire after years of "forest management" (and property protection). These guys are right on target about 15% of the time. Nothing compares to that scene in Apocalypse where those rounds are going off around those guys on long boards! F-ing hilarious. e |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 879 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 02:10 pm: |
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I didn't know that it could drive throught the ocean, or at least the video showed it. |