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Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
Member Username: Sillybus
Post Number: 249 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:10 pm: |
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For those of you that have long memories, you know I ask some stupid questions from time to time. I just have NEVER turned a wrench before buying my D1 and its a great excuse to learn. That said, and knowing I try to do everything I will tell you of my problem. Basically, my truck is starting to lean to the passenger's side. Its to the point where I know I am not crazy and I can actually see a lean on even ground. Is this something that is adjustable and could be slipping or is it indicative of something that should be replaced like springs or shocks. If it helps, I sometimes feel like I get too much "bounce" in my ride but the people I have all asked, tell me my shocks are fine (neither of which has ever driven a LR). 1996 D1 with 118K... no service record to speak of. |
   
Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
Senior Member Username: Rubisco98
Post Number: 927 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:20 pm: |
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Sagging springs..... My 1996 D1 was about an inch shorter on the passenger side when I purchased it. Upgraded to OME HD springs and all was level, within a month or so, the passenger side was back down almost 2.5 inches. Replaced the springs (which is a fairly simple task by following Kyle's tech write up) and the problem is now behind me. After mounting my winch though, I'll probably have to replace the front springs yet once again.. Adios.. Roberto |
   
Jason McCombs (Jasonmc)
Member Username: Jasonmc
Post Number: 43 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:25 pm: |
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hey guys i havent personally went through this bu i do remember reading that the discos are actually set up that way with the reasoning being that it is driven single passenger (driver only) a larger percentage of the time. so by setting it up with the drivers side higher it actually comes out level when yer in the drivers seat. hey, this may well all be BS but i didnt make this S**t up. I know i did read a lenghty explaination on this in Dweb. try doing a search for it. |
   
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
Member Username: Sillybus
Post Number: 250 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:26 pm: |
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Thats pretty much what I was thinking but didn't want to jump the gun with my ignorance. I've read posts that say shocks are easy for the avg. guy with no special tools. Does this apply to springs too? I was thinking OME kit, OMEDS1K2 Heavy Duty since I do a lot of logging road travel. Maybe doing the steering damper as well just to be thorough. Any comments regarding this approach would be super. Jason- Will check that out. Sounds like BS though but what do I know compared to most people here? |
   
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
Senior Member Username: Sillybus
Post Number: 251 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:32 pm: |
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Ok, found it. Believable I guess but still an annoyance. I would assume that good springs and shocks should level out a vehicle that is unevenly loaded by a couple hundred pounds. |
   
Jason McCombs (Jasonmc)
Member Username: Jasonmc
Post Number: 44 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:33 pm: |
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hey steve have you read through the how to for the Spring/ Shock install in the tech section of Dweb? I'm sure you have just making sure. Actually I was thinking about doing the same thing on my disco to, and i have never wrenched much either. |
   
Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 607 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:39 pm: |
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As I understand it, Discos lean to the right because the RHD version has the diffs and everything setup on the LHS so they compensated for the extra weight on the LHS with stiffer springs. When they made the LHD version, everything got switched to the RHS but they didn't bother to change the springs so the Discos have a "lean" to them, always to the RHS. I could be totally off but I recall reading that somewhere. |
   
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
Senior Member Username: Sillybus
Post Number: 252 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:42 pm: |
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So if I buy new springs, are they each built for a specific corner to replicate the lean or would going with the OME kit fix this and the fix is a desirable result (other than my OCD LOL). |
   
Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 608 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:49 pm: |
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Steve - check with EE. They sell OME kits that will compensate for this lean and level out the truck. I guess the other thing you could do if you want to stick with LR springs is to mix and match the springs (HD, MD and STD) to get the same effect. Personally I don't really care anymore. When I first noticed it, it bugged me a bit but now I just chalk it up to character. When people ask if my truck leans I just say the ground is sloped. I'll probably fix it when I need to replace the springs but for now it's fine. |
   
DARRELL (Puppywhopper)
New Member Username: Puppywhopper
Post Number: 29 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:50 pm: |
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mine leans on the driver side and i just put in new springs a month ago emu they are tagged lh rh i assumed LH was driver and RH was passenger sooo i put 200lbs of sand bags on passenger side and im level again..i bet they tagged them wrong sat level fer 2 weeks...i shoulda measured them precisely before i puttem in |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 233 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 11:14 pm: |
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Is it a myth that I hear that the leaning to the passenger side is to compensate for the weight of a 200 lb. driver? I read that here a while ago and thought it to be true, but Alan's explanation makes much more sense. |
   
Craig McLaughlin (Cmclaugh)
New Member Username: Cmclaugh
Post Number: 35 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 12:37 am: |
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I understood the lean to the right was to compensate for the steeply cambered roads in the UK. If the springs were even the vehicle would lean to the lower side of the road. A slightly shorter spring on the UK drivers side helps the vehicle sit closer to plumb. I could just be talking out of a hole in my head though. |
   
Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
Senior Member Username: Mountenn
Post Number: 272 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 06:03 pm: |
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I've always been under the impression that the lean on the RH side was to compensate for a 200-lb driver. If the diffs, etc. were on the LH side, and were switched for the LHD version, it wouldn't matter that much with weight--the weight of those ride on the tires anyway--not in the body. I don't know...if I'm wrong, somebody please put a stop to this myth. |
   
Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 611 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 06:22 pm: |
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Doesn't riding on the tires also imply that it rides on the springs? |
   
Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
Senior Member Username: Mountenn
Post Number: 276 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 06:25 pm: |
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Negative--The weight of the differentials sits below the springs. The differentials are on the axles, and the springs are between the axles and the body. |