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Rick Cordova (Imx)
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Username: Imx

Post Number: 28
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Those that have them what are your pros and cons? I use my D1 as a daily and do enjoy doing some good off road (Moab). I will add a bumper and winch latter, but I would like to increase my ride 2-3". All of your input will be greatly appreciated.
 

Will Roeder (Will_roeder)
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Post Number: 661
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

How much articulation are you looking for?
 

Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
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Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 697
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well off the bat I would say rovertym. This is just because my dealings with $G have been very negative and a big hassle. And which rovertym and $G type of lift do you want to get?

Chris
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Not a big SG fan. I would probably get OME springs and shocks with lower rear mounts and EE retainers. I have an RTE 3" springs and brand new they were great. With a RTE bumper and winch, my fronts have held up great. My rear have sagged about 2". Talk to Ho Chung or John Lee at EE. They can help you with a 3" OME lift.
 

Rick Cordova (Imx)
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Username: Imx

Post Number: 30
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was considering the stage II for $G and getting the 3" lift w/RTE. Will, as to artic. the most as poss. Im fairly new to the LR seen & Im looking to you guys for help, I want something that will offer a good road ride and know that I can hit some gnarly trails. I have purchased items from both companies and they both have been good. I know the $G may be a bit more pricy but if there is a gain in performance and durability then price can be over looked (w/in reason).
 

Rick Cordova (Imx)
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Username: Imx

Post Number: 31
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey thanx Steve, I've heard of the OME 1-2" but I have not looked into the 3". Also thanx to Will & Chris for your insight.
 

Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
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Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 698
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey you could go Rovertym and get the $G drop curtans for more articulation
 

Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
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Username: Jsq

Post Number: 398
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

(Insert obligatory $G rant here)

now that I've gotten that out of the way,
I really like RTE but there springs do have a bit of a reputation for sagging. It sounds like if you just want a 3" lift with decent articulation you should go with OME bits and expeditionware spring spacers from EE. It's the cheapest option and with no sway bars it's a pretty active lift. Same shock positioning just a very tall spring in the front and a tall spring with a spacer in the rear. Something to think about at any rate. Or you can do the same thing and reposition the shock mounts as well.
 

Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc)
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Username: Chrisvonc

Post Number: 1101
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You can retain your good road ride and hit the gnarly trails just fine with an OME 2" lift, plus you will save yourself a lot of $$ and headaches that can be associated with breaking the 2" barrier on Discos. I have run a 3" lift on my disco for 4 years now (originally was a Stage III kit an dis now a custom blend of stuff)and so far I still have yet to see a trail that an OME truck could not run that I could because of the lift. They may not run the trail with as much flexy sex appeal, but they got up them just the same. I cant tell you how many headaches I have had with all the crap associated with my lift over the years. There are plenty of people here on this BBS that have been on the trail with me when something yet again broke, snapped, or popped its way out of place who will attest to my fustration.

Also look at the $$ side of it for the Discos. 3" lift usally mean extended brake lines, new drive shafts, radius and trailing arms, retainers or drop kits, after marker shock mounts usally that decrease clearance, and lastly.. the joy of very expensive replacement shocks.

Granted over the years, more and more vendors are making/selling options to break the 2" barrier so today, you have a lot more to choice from than what was available a few years ago but still... unless you REALLY feel you need to go to a 3" lift, there is nothing wrong with 2".

Chris von C.
 

Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
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Username: Andythoma

Post Number: 321
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rick, I'm located in SLC too. Shoot me an email; at andythoma@netzero.com , maybe we can hook up and wheel sometime. Also I run a 2" ome lift, some of the other guys I run with use a 3" lift. You can check out or drive any to see what you might like. Also there is a company here in SLC, redrockrovers that makes retainers and spacers for the 3" lift. I have wanted the 3" lift but my 2" does fine, plus I didn't need all the extra crap like the brake lines, castor correction bushings so on. It depends on where you go, if its a daily driver, like mine, you maybe happier staying with the smaller lift. To contact redrock email then at; www.redrockrovers.com . Also great basin rovers sells old man emu springs, he too is located in SLC, check the vender section of this site for a link.
 

Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
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Username: Ccdm3

Post Number: 100
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

May I suggest an OME 2in lift with 32in tires? This will give you plenty of lift where you need it most...at the dif! If you want more flex, then add drop cones, spring retainers, or an SG drop kit. It works for me.

my .02
 

Kris Arnott (Krisarnott)
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Username: Krisarnott

Post Number: 18
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hello Rick, I went with a $G Stage II. The end result was good. I like the Fox shocks that bolt to the existing shock mounts. It did take 5 months to get the parts though. The $G springs seem a little soft so the truck rocks side to side more than I would have liked. The 3 link 'lawn chair' in the front corrected all steering problems but I still have some vibes in the front drive shaft at 20 mph or so. I did get over 3 inches of lift compare to sagging stock springs.

Good Luck!

Kris
 

Rick Cordova (Imx)
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Username: Imx

Post Number: 32
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey guys!
Thank you for all the suggestions, I think I may need to go back to the drawing board and rethink my opptions. Thanks Kris, I was concerned about vibe and sway.
Rick
 

Brian Dickens (Bri)
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Username: Bri

Post Number: 456
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

2" is the safe way to go. Then you are not looking at spending the $$ fixing castor and vibes. However there are people here that have those problems even with 2", I believe. With an OME HD setup you should be good, but likely will only get about 1.5" IMO.
 

marc olivares (Pugs)
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Username: Pugs

Post Number: 90
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

rick drop me an email, local (slc) can be of some assistance. running 3" ome, have set up many other trucks in other ways.
some things to think about:
where are you running most? canyons, sand, moab?
is this a daily driver?
what size tires would you ultimately want?
and most of all, how much cash can you spare?
either way, we can help.
marc
 

James (Jimmyg)
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Username: Jimmyg

Post Number: 333
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Go with RTE 2inch lift. Good ride and much better articulation. Had it for over a year and 0 sagging. Some of RTE old springs used to have problems with sagging but the newer ones are much better.

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