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     Matt (Doc175) Member Username: Doc175 Post Number: 143 Registered: 11-2002 |
How can air be getting into the hydrolic lines of the clutch? About 5 weeks ago I had to have the transmission replaced. When I got it back the clutch pedal was spongy. The shop said that the air would work its way out but never did. I took it back 2 weeks later and they say I should probably replace the clutch hydrolic pipe and the bleed the system. I did that and it was still spongy. Today I took it to a shop and had them use a vacuum bleeder. Still no luck, the pedal is still spongy. Transmission works great and the truck is drivable without slipping. Where is the air getting in or is that even the problem? Thanks | ||
| Ray Gerber (Raygerber) Member Username: Raygerber Post Number: 71 Registered: 09-2002 |
Matt, I've got a 94 5 speed and we've been dealing with some interesting clutch problems since I had it replaced about 3 months ago. Since I was getting the work done we had both cylinders replaced as well. On the drive from Richmond, VA to Norfolk VA the pedal went to the floor on my wife-so she powershifted the remaining 20 miles home and we called the mechanic with the typical what the F&*%? He told us to bleed it-which we did, and it worked fairly well for awhile but started going spongey on us as well after about a month. We bled it again to no avail. Now here's a couple of points I picked up about the clutch that I should have known starting this whole endeavor. The Haynes manual says any ATF fluid that is Dexron II (or better) works, so we got ATF fluid. We come to find out when we pulled our head out of our a$$ that its really brake fluid that works in Land Rover clutch's-which can easily be discovered if you read the tech tips on Atlantic British's website. Castrol Brake fluid to be precise. After reading that little tidbit and talking to Les on the phone we tested the master cylinder right at the end of the cylinder where it leads into the hydraulic pipe and were rewarded with little to no pressure being exerted, either b/c of the fluid problem (still ATF) or a faulty seal or faulty cylinder (apparently this happens right out of the box sometimes) We ordered a new master cylinder, installed it and put in the right fluid yesterday, bleeding the clutch fairly quickly now is the norm (we have a good two person system) and she's back on the road. The pressure isn't what I would call 'normal' yet, but that is 'normal' by all accounts as the air works its way out over a week or so. If its not straight by this weekend another bleed job will be in order. All of that to say this: be wary of the cylinders, the pipe shouldn't have any reason to cause sponginess in the pedal unless there is some kind of clog (unlikely) If you want some more details on troubleshooting, or the joy I know that is called trying to get a new mastercylinder bolted onto the bulkhead properly, email me/fire back and I will give you even more info on what all we did. Bottom line: don't use ATF fluid, as I am convinced that help jack up the cylinder issues that we had. Hope that helps! r- Ray | ||
| Shaun Power (Shaunp) Member Username: Shaunp Post Number: 72 Registered: 05-2003 |
Do either of you have the clutch hydralic damper diaphram on your cars ( it's a round canister mounted with the slave cylinder)? If you have chuck it and fit the line straight to the slave. These clutches are hard to bleed, if you face them up hill it seems easier. |
