| Author | Message | ||
     Love Jones (The_tool_man) New Member Username: The_tool_man Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2003 |
i was noticing that there is 2 size filters that fit my disco.. the normal short filter, and a long filter. has anyone had any experience using the longer filter k&N 30001? | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 492 Registered: 04-2002 |
The long oil filter will void your warranty. Don't do it. | ||
| charles pastrano (Charles) Senior Member Username: Charles Post Number: 253 Registered: 08-2002 |
Why? | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 494 Registered: 04-2002 |
Because it's longer. | ||
| Geoff 93 RRC (Geoff) Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 79 Registered: 11-2002 |
The shorter filters are used by manufacturers to speed engine warmup and reduce startup emissions. I use the long filters with no problems. | ||
| Jaime Crusellas (Jaime) New Member Username: Jaime Post Number: 27 Registered: 05-2003 |
Whenever I had the dealer do an oil change, they used the long one. I now use Wix filters and they are long. | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 496 Registered: 04-2002 |
Go ahead and use the long oil filter. When your engine blows up and the dealer won't warranty it, don't come crying to me. | ||
| Shaun Power (Shaunp) Member Username: Shaunp Post Number: 73 Registered: 05-2003 |
The long ones work ok, Ryco filters Australia recomend the short ones as they have had people damage the long ones off road. I use LR ones because I find them to be the same price $13 oz and people like to see ome parts fitted. | ||
| Nathan Hindman (Nathanh) Member Username: Nathanh Post Number: 59 Registered: 07-2002 |
I use the long filter all the time on my 95 DI. The additional filter length is nice because it theoretically provides a bit more filtration. As far as it voiding the warantee, I've got to say that sounds like a big load of BS. I challenge you to find one person anywhere that has had their warantee voided because of a HP3001. Thanks, Nathan Hindman http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 501 Registered: 04-2002 |
It sounds like a load of BS? Maybe because it is. Lighten up; your knuckles are turning white from strangling that cup of coffee... | ||
| Norm Orschnorschki (Norm) Member Username: Norm Post Number: 71 Registered: 02-2003 |
Oh no, it's not BS!!! The long filters take longer to build up oil pressure, especially on cold starts. Compare for yourselves -- see how much longer it takes for your oil light to go out with a long filter than of a short one, especially in cold weather. ---Norm | ||
| Luis Constantin (Luisc) Member Username: Luisc Post Number: 53 Registered: 02-2003 |
I've been using the long filters since I got my D1 in 98 with no ill effects. I now have 83K miles on it. I use it for the increased filter capacity. Whether this makes a difference on LR engines or not, on my 72 Olds I used the larger filter because for some unknown reason it would help increase the oil pressure by 5 lbs. | ||
| Michael Noe (Noee) Senior Member Username: Noee Post Number: 681 Registered: 03-2002 |
I've used the long filters on my D2, I can't remember even seeing the oil pressure light except during self-test phase, mine has never been on for more that 1 second, long or short filters. | ||
| Bill K (Bill_k) Member Username: Bill_k Post Number: 183 Registered: 08-2002 |
Norm has a point. I've always used the crosland long filters until last winter when I noticed the oil light stayed on significantly longer at startup (about 5 seconds). I switched to the shorter Mann filters and the light stayed on for about 2 seconds. Now, since I have about 5 long filters in the garage, i will use the long filters in the summer and the short filters in the winter until I use up all long filters and then stick to the short Mann filters. Also, I dont think the long filters keep the oil cleaner, as I have noticed no difference in oil color after 5000 mile oil change intervals. | ||
| M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Senior Member Username: Lrover94 Post Number: 874 Registered: 02-2002 |
lol.....if the longer one blows the motor just put short one on (pour the oil from the longer filter in the short one first) mw | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 505 Registered: 04-2002 |
If oil pressure is taking longer to build up with the long filter than the short filter, your oil pump is slowly losing its prime overnight. Maybe it's time to replace/rebuild and reseal the oil pump. | ||
| Norm Orschnorschki (Norm) Member Username: Norm Post Number: 73 Registered: 02-2003 |
Sooooo, Jason, exactly why does the long filter void your warranty? (And don't say because it's longer.) | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 508 Registered: 04-2002 |
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| Norm Orschnorschki (Norm) Member Username: Norm Post Number: 76 Registered: 02-2003 |
Jeez, Jason, you don't call yourself a used a$$hole for nothing -- and a contortionist to boot! I just wish you'd hadn't posted your self-portrait -- this is a family-oriented website. ---Norm | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 517 Registered: 04-2002 |
I just wish you could read and comprehend. | ||
| Reed Cotton (Reedcotton) Member Username: Reedcotton Post Number: 204 Registered: 01-2003 |
The long filter makes it a bit easier to drive a screwdriver through it when taking it off. Must be time for the worthless Tefelon additives. Unless the top of the bottom of the long filter (when installed) is higher than the filter output (I am not too sure if the oil flows in or out of the center hole.) There should be no significant difference. Thats why we're supposed to "prime" the filter with oil before putting it on. Five seconds seems like a long time for the light to be on when the filter is refilling itself. There shouldn't be that much oil lost while the motor is not running. Butt that may be my picture up there too. -Reed | ||
| Bill K (Bill_k) Member Username: Bill_k Post Number: 187 Registered: 08-2002 |
Reed, that only happened last winter in the very cold weather. Now, in the summer, the light turns off instantly. I think it's more a matter of the oil flowing slow than it is the filter taking longer to fill. Whatever it is, I'm at the point that I don't give a shit what the Rover does anymore. I'm not losing any sleep over it. | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 518 Registered: 04-2002 |
I wouldn't either as oil tends to be more viscous in the colder winter weather, and more prone to building more oil pressure faster. Sounds more like the typical Rover gauges keeping you informed... | ||
| Reed Cotton (Reedcotton) Member Username: Reedcotton Post Number: 211 Registered: 01-2003 |
Bill- From what you say, you shouldn't lose any sleep over it. Extreme cold will do that (block heater might be recommended here.) Even I move slower in cold weather. -Reed | ||
| Love Jones (The_tool_man) New Member Username: The_tool_man Post Number: 30 Registered: 06-2003 |
since i am the one who started this thread.. due to overwhelming CoNfUsIoN of this issue.. i have decided to get the short filter.  thank you all for your iNpUt. | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 522 Registered: 04-2002 |
Glad you decided. Now make sure you don't use any filter manufactured by K&N, Fram, Wix, or Purolator...they have been known to void the Land Rover Factory Warranty. | ||
| Reed Cotton (Reedcotton) Member Username: Reedcotton Post Number: 212 Registered: 01-2003 |
Don't do that to him. | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 701 Registered: 02-2002 |
this information was just to make sure your LR Dealer installes the proper filter wasn't it? you're not going to change your oil and filter yourself are you? pretty sure that also voids the LR Factory Warranty unless the LR Dealer performs this work for you. others may have a better idea though. Jaime |
