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Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
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Username: Brianfriend

Post Number: 1059
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here's a strange one. I carry my spare on my roof rack. Well, I must have snagged it on a tree or something cause i have a peirced sidewall. Very strange, getting a flat a tire that is not even on the ground.

Cheap bastard q is.....I need to have a spare but it will not be rotated into service and I don't really have the $$ for a new one or even a used one so has anyone had any luck repairing a sidewall? The hole is about the size of a pencil.
 

Brian Dickens (Bri)
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Username: Bri

Post Number: 472
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have repaired a sidewall before and after the repair I never reallty used it other then for a short duration. I was told not to count on the tire, but it always held air.

I believe it was plugged, trimmed and then patched.

I'm sure that someone else will chime in on this one.
 

Mike M (Mikem)
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Username: Mikem

Post Number: 33
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/safetyseal/

 

Dave_lucas (Dave_lucas)
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Username: Dave_lucas

Post Number: 389
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post



Damn Brian, I think you have to have the worst luck of anyone I know.
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
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Username: Brianfriend

Post Number: 1061
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah Dave.....very strange. I got up there as part of my typical before trip inspection and was very surprised that it was flat. I thought that maybe when I replaced the broken valve that I had not seated the tire properly but to my dismay as i tried to reinflate it air came out the side wall as fast as it went in.

I tried a plug but the hole is too big for that and keeps blowing the plug out. Im thinking duct tape...but that might be too red neck even for me. and it might not work real well either.
 

Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu)
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Username: Danielcovaciu

Post Number: 347
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Duct Tape?!!!!!!!!
WTF, Holy......

I am laughing out load as I write this.

Brian, you made my day, you cheap freakin bastard you.

LOL

Dan
 

Jaime Crusellas (Jaime)
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Username: Jaime

Post Number: 28
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sand the inside of the tire around the area of the hole. Then get a thick piece of rubber (maybe a couple of layers of inner tube that have been laminated together with glue), and glue the patch from the inside.

Maybe hold the patch in place with a big C clamp
And hope that the air pressure holds it in place.

I wouldn't count on it, but it may be worth a try.
 

Greg Hirst (Gregh)
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Username: Gregh

Post Number: 240
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian-

Did you run over a neighbor kids toy RC car? That might explain a screwdriver-in-the-sidewall type flat. If you're really desperate, try a large interior hot patch. But it will not be a reliable offroad use spare and especially no airing down.

It may seem the cheap way out now but I bet you'll pay in the long run...
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
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Username: Brianfriend

Post Number: 1066
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg....no I didn't run over anything. The spare was on my ROOF rack strapped down. the tire will just be a spare and will be used to get me off a trail if needed. I just need the thing to hold air.
 

Mark & Bev Preston (Markp)
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Username: Markp

Post Number: 211
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian,

I wouldn't trust a sidewall patch for a hole that size. Especially since your family will be in the truck. Since you won't be using the tire, just a spare, find a very used one at a tire dealer and trade them. I suspect they will do this for free.

- Mark
 

Greg Hirst (Gregh)
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Username: Gregh

Post Number: 242
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You're missing my point-you made someone mad and they crawled up and stabbed your tire one night (or day) with a screwdriver, knife, awl, ice pick, whatever... Have any 14 yr olds flipped you off recently?

Bottom line-buy a new tire :-)
 

Phil (Discoanywhere)
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Username: Discoanywhere

Post Number: 37
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'd do what Mark said go around to tire shops and tell them you need an old tire for a spare.. I picked up an ok 245 for $15 bucks (installed and balanced!) Tell em its for an old farm truck if they see your rover they might try to soak you ...lol
Also just wondering if you bought the tires new and when...maybe your could get it replaced ...road hazzard warranty??
 

Terry Christmas (Cornfed3)
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Username: Cornfed3

Post Number: 8
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian,
There are some things you can skimp on and tires are not one of them. Don't eat lunch for 3 days and save those pennies to get a used tire. If you patch that sidewall and it blows, you could bend the rim, flip over, get trapped in the truck upside down while gas leaks in your eyes, you lose your vision, all because you didn't want to spend $15.

 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
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Username: Brianfriend

Post Number: 1067
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok guys....let me rephrase the question.

I have a friend that wants to repair a sidewall hole in his tire. I have advised him not to do this because it will be unrelyable but it seems that against all advice he will probably do it anyway.

Knowing that the guy will do it anyway (risking blindness and all) what do you think would be the best way for him to do it?
 

Dave_lucas (Dave_lucas)
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Username: Dave_lucas

Post Number: 390
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What about using a patch on the sidewall and a tube in the tire?
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
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Username: Brianfriend

Post Number: 1068
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dave,

I think that is the way to go...sounds very feasable. Does anyone make tubes for a 35" tire?
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
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Username: Brianfriend

Post Number: 1069
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dave,

I think that is the way to go...sounds very feasable. Does anyone make tubes for a 35" tire?
 

Art Vigil (Colorover)
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Username: Colorover

Post Number: 200
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.roverworx.com/tirerepair.htm
$40 - might work for you and comes with 60 plugs for future freak accidents.

~Art Vigil
 

Lionel (Fromage)
Member
Username: Fromage

Post Number: 58
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian,

It looks like it is time for charity. What tyre size is your friend using?
Maybe someone out there can help...looks like everybody is concerned with your friend's safety!

Lol
Lionel

Maybe hail did that to your tyre. You know just one ice cube coming from really really high.
Another possibility...did you find a bullet in your tyre?
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
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Username: Brianfriend

Post Number: 1071
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Lionel....ironicly my friend uses the same tire size as me. it is a 35x12.50x15 we both have very good taste:-)
 

Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
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Username: Andythoma

Post Number: 333
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian, tell your "friend" to watch the rubicon video. Someone puts a large hole in a tire, uses EE safty seal patchs and fills it up and continues to wheel. I will someday buy one of those ee kits, but since all my money seems to goto keeping the truck running, I found walmart has the big plugs like that kit, a cheap bastard kit isn't near as nice but you will spend like $20. But I think your "friend" could find a used tire for that much that's good enough for a spare.
 

Brian D. Slaughter (Slug)
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Username: Slug

Post Number: 3
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You people are killing me.

Try Ebay! !

If your in the States and west of the Mississippi, go to any Les Schwab they'll fix u up.
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member
Username: Brianfriend

Post Number: 1073
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There is another advantage to solving this challnage. If we can figure out how to make a large sidewall pucture repair somewhat reliable then we have also figured out another trail repair.
\
\I like to try to fix everything I can myself and I try to do it withas few things as possible (some might consider that rigging) but I figure if I can fix it myself at home with stuff laying around i will be able to fix it on the trail. So...if I can figure this out for my (friend) then I will have that little bit of knowledge that just might get me out of a bind some day. My theory is that if I have 5 tires, 4 in use at any one time and I get two flats then I am minus one tire and I am now in a bad situation. It turns out that it is possible to blow out a spare tire that is not on the ground so i think the possibility of blowing a tire out that is on the ground is higher.

I am just using deductive reasoning here.


 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Username: Mountenn

Post Number: 303
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Go to Tractor Supply Company and get some of their tractor tire patches. They are really beefy, and I figure if it will hold pressure in a 52" tractor tire driving around in a damn field somewhere, your spare will probably survive with it, too. Good luck--let us know how it works out.

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