| Author | Message | ||
     D. Chapman (1hank1) Senior Member Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 382 Registered: 02-2003 |
Before  During  After  Made of 4140 Steel. I wonder if these will bend? | ||
| M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Senior Member Username: Lrover94 Post Number: 882 Registered: 02-2002 |
niiiiiiiiiiicccccccceeeeeeee! mike w is that a Weim in the background? | ||
| D. Chapman (1hank1) Senior Member Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 384 Registered: 02-2003 |
Yea, he's a little baby. | ||
| Joe M. (Little_joe) Member Username: Little_joe Post Number: 126 Registered: 11-2002 |
I saw John/Rovertym's solid rod bent on Eric's (GrnRvr) Disco at Paragon. So yeah, yours can be bent too.  Eric was winching and the tie rod caught on a hidden stump. joe | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 1077 Registered: 09-2002 |
a solid rod will bend esier than a tube. | ||
| D. Chapman (1hank1) Senior Member Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 385 Registered: 02-2003 |
What is stronger SS or the 4140? Both I guess have the "spring" effect to them. I would think the tie rod ends would break before the rod bent. How thick are John's rods, and are they solid? I looked at alot of SS stock at the machine shop and they all had a hole down the center. I used solid 1.5" 4140. If it bends I should not have been there in the first place. | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Senior Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 251 Registered: 10-2002 |
FWIW-My RTE drag link and track rod are solid 1.25" stainless steel. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 1079 Registered: 09-2002 |
not being a metle guy but the reason a tube is stronger is because there is more surface area. I know that the custom GBR axles are hollow and I think bill has something on his sight about this. | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 485 Registered: 08-2002 |
Brian, I have a hard time understanding this. Think about it same material solid or tube, which will dent easier? Then which will bend easier? If the tube is 1mm thick will it bend less than solid? And it depends on what the solid and tube are made of. RTE solid SS is much stronger than stock tube, no doubt. | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 904 Registered: 08-2002 |
My tie rod and drag link are 1.25" solid SS. My panhard is 1.5" solid SS. And from what I've been told by machinist/engineers is tube is stronger than solid bar. Or perhaps they said tube will bend whereas solid will fail quicker because it will crack whereas the tube will just fold. Either way, it was stated that the tube is in fact stronger in alot of situations. Maybe compression and tension are better for solids? | ||
| D. Chapman (1hank1) Senior Member Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 386 Registered: 02-2003 |
I think of it like a coke can. You can stand on a coke can and it will not crush. But, if you dent the can then stand on it the can will collapse. If I had a hollow track/tie rod and wack it on a rock, the first time may not do any damage other a dent. But, what will happen the 3rd or 4th time? The likly hood of a solid bar breaking in this application is slim. It may get bent at some point, but at least I could make it off the trail. I am more worried about the tie rods breaking and leaving part of the shaft stuck in the rod. |
