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Jared Schnelle (Jared)
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Username: Jared

Post Number: 144
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey guys, just a quick question.

I am pulling the CV joints on my car, and I'm at the hub nuts now. Searching the forums I found a few sizes listed for sockets for the hub nuts, namely:

2 1/16th is the right size, but 2 1/8th will work.

The only place I can find in town that has sockets that large (not in a set) is Sears. They only have a 2 1/8th, 3/4in drive.

Will that 1/16th matter much, for the value of torque we're going to?

Also, how much is the hub nut tool from the dealership? I hear it's a POS though.

Thanks for the help.
-Jared
 

Alan Bates (Alanb)
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Username: Alanb

Post Number: 240
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have used the 2-1/8" socket with no problems, just get a 3/4" to 1/2" adapter if you don't have a 3/4" drive. I also have the hub nut tool and it doesn't work as well as the large socket.
 

Jared Schnelle (Jared)
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Username: Jared

Post Number: 145
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks alan!
 

Reed Cotton (Reedcotton)
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Username: Reedcotton

Post Number: 196
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Snap-On used to make a socket that would fit. It too was 3/4" drive, but there was also some holes in the side to but a rod through it. Don't have a part number right off hand.

I think someone at RN reccommended it when they where out of stock with the "real" ones.

-Reed
 

Jared Schnelle (Jared)
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Username: Jared

Post Number: 146
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I bought a 2 1/8 12 sided (cause that's all they had) from sears. That doesnt work, it'll round the nut, cause it just slips. I hate 12 sided sockets.

Ok, I guess I'll return this and try to find my Snap-On dealer.
 

Reed Cotton (Reedcotton)
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Username: Reedcotton

Post Number: 201
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just resist the urge to go to the "rounding off the corners with a punch and hammer" method of removing and installing these nuts. Some "mechanics" swear by it, but it could easily crack the nut you want to hold your wheel on with.

-Reed
 

Alan Bates (Alanb)
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Username: Alanb

Post Number: 242
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Not sure off hand what brand my 2-1/8" socket is, but it is not a 12 point, it has a bunch of points, I think it is a snap-on, but not sure.
 

John Lee (Johnlee)
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Username: Johnlee

Post Number: 166
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?search=true&item_ID=3898&PartNo=imfs6 62&group_id=435&store=snapon-store&tool=all

I've HEARD that this socket fits, but I've never tried it. I don't know for certain if the socket's walls are thin enough or the socket is deep enough to work.

2 1/16" is the correct size. If you're going to buy a socket this expensive, you might as well buy the correct size.

Buying this socket can be a problem. It costs $100 and you don't know for sure if it'll fit. Also, you probably can't test fit it when the Snap-on truck comes by, because your local Snap-on guy is very unlikely to have this socket in stock in his truck. He'll have to order it for you.

This socket is 3/4" drive, so you'll probably need an adapter:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?search=true&item_ID=51108&PartNo=sla3 50&group_id=11660&store=snapon-store&tool=all

or

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?search=true&item_ID=1773&PartNo=gla12 b&group_id=428&store=snapon-store&tool=all



 

Will Roeder (Will_roeder)
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Username: Will_roeder

Post Number: 668
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Any place that sells Land Rover parts sells a socket that will work. I know for a fact that RoversNorth, AtlanticBritish, and DAP sell them.Just call around and see what you can find. Ive got one from DAP. Its a couple years old and fits perfectly. Plus, it only cost me something like $14.
 

Jim H. (Victor_mature)
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Username: Victor_mature

Post Number: 119
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I wasn't sure what size the nut was when I replaced my bearings so I bought Craftsman 3/4" drive sockets for about $20/ea in 2-1/4", 2-1/8" and 2-1/16" and was going to return the ones that didn't fit but I wound up keeping them all because they're cool.
There's just something supremely manly about having sockets as big as coffee mugs.
Oh, by the way, the Craftsman 12-point socket was deep enough and thin enough to work -at least on the rear hubs for a 94 DI.
Jim
 

Jared Schnelle (Jared)
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Username: Jared

Post Number: 147
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I found one place in town that had the socket I needed. They had a 2 1/8 deep socket (impact socket), which I bought.

This turned out to be too big, on the outer diameter, because of the hefty metal that impact sockets are made of.

So I called back to see if he could order me a 2 1/16th, or to see if he could find me a chromed one (since they'd be smaller OD). He informed me that after I left he found a 2 1/16th, 12 sided socket, that was deep socketed.

Well, turns out it's about 1/2 inch or more smaller than the other "deep socket" but it's just long enough to fit enough for me to tighten, etc. So I'm good to go, with my 2 1/16th 12 point. Wish It was 6 though..

Thanks for the help guys,
Jared
 

Reed Cotton (Reedcotton)
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Username: Reedcotton

Post Number: 206
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The one I have I got for my 109. I am not sure if a Series hub nut and a Discos are the same size or not. (I have yet to need to adjust the Disco's hubs.) Now that I am looking at it here are some facts about it.

As mentioned above I bought it from a Snap-On rep though it does not actually say "SnapOn" on it.

It has the name "BluePoint" or "BluePaint" stamped on it.

It is 20-3/32" in size. A little larger than 2 1/16, but it fits inside the housing.

It is 6-point, and seems to be made from a steel tube that was pushed onto a "socket shaped" mandrel. Not drop forged like most common sockets

It has a part number ANS 1901A on it and is 3/4" drive. It does not have holes in the side as I previously mentioned. If only used for hub nuts, you may never need to put a ratchet, or breaker bar on it. (At least on a Series LR, not sure what the tourque is specified for Disco.)

@ 1/16 sounds like the right size, I think that I got the 2 3/32 because the rep only had it in stock at the time. Even so, there should not be a problem rounding off nut corners. (In a matter of scale a 1/2" drive or 3/8" drive socket may have more slop in it. Especially the cheap ones.)

Again, as I recall, it cost less than the one Rovers North had in their cataloge (but not in stock), at the time.

It's not shiney, but it has worked every time.

Hope this helps,

-Reed
 

John Lee (Johnlee)
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Username: Johnlee

Post Number: 167
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Because of the possible fit problems associated with the Snap-on IMFS662 shallow thin-wall impact socket, we use this for the time being:

http://www.roversdownsouth.com/images/specials/HubSpannerRD155.jpg

Cost is $12 apiece from George Laird @ Rovers Down South. One of these days, we will be able to test the fit of the Snap-on IMFS662. If it fits, we'll definitely get one for the shop.

George also sells hub nuts and hub nut washers:

http://www.roversdownsouth.com/images/specials/NutWasher.JPG

Cost on the hub nuts is $2 apiece and the washers are $0.50 apiece.




 

Nathan Hindman (Nathanh)
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Username: Nathanh

Post Number: 67
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Good find John. At $.50 each, even the cheapest of the cheap bastards can afford to do it right and change out the nut washers every time (or at least every other time).

Thanks,
Nathan Hindman
http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com
 

Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera)
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Username: Alexcabrera

Post Number: 121
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There's a fellow selling some now in the Discoweb Classifieds...

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