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Justin Myers
Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Looking to build a Hybrid D90 with the following

Galvanized Frame
D90 ST Body
Chevy Vortec 327
NV4500 or AT Tranny
Atlas II
D44 front/rear

33's or 35's not sure.

Anyone done this? Any input? Thanks!

-Justin
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

safarigard.com is working on something like that
 

Ron
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Doable. but $$$$$ and skill needed :)

You are going to be running a short rear DS with an NV4500 and an atlas unless you entend the wheelbase.
 

Craig M. Highland (Shortbus)
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

God bless all the people with more money than common sense...
Craig
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Justin - you may want to post that one over on the Pirate board - lots of crazy mods going on over there. Be warned - they'll hurt ya when you post as a newbie :)

Bill
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

get a expensive safari gard supension they are pretty flexy a super charger for the stock 4.0 and a ASHCROFT underdrive
 

Justin Myers
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for the replies,

I'll check out Pirate4x4.

-Justin
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Justin,

Sounds like another "ultimate" vehicle.
 

Craig M. Highland (Shortbus)
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My lip hurts from biting it-
Craig
 

Ron
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

An ultimate vehicle would be on volvo portals rather that POS d44s.

LOL

Ron
 

Rick Hawkins
Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Justin this is what I build.RICK�S ROCK ROVER
Ingredients for an OD green four-wheel drive

First take the ever-cool 1973 Series III Land Rover body off the frame and do away with all the weak components. Than get your self some good old American hard ware.
Front diff is a Dana 44 with Superior HD axles and big beefy 5-297-1 u joints Lock Right 5:13 Ring and pinion Front disc brakes and a Stainless Steel 21inch brake line Super winch Hubs and welded reinforcements on the diff cover
Rear diff is Ford 9inch with Superior HD axles Lock Right 5:14 Ring and pinion
Custom made drive shafts with CV joints and HD U joints
Power steering with U Max12 t ¾-16 National rod ends. HD steering pump, High out put alternator 140 AMP with dual925CCA Red Optima batteries
5 liter 302 bored .030, Performer Cam, Cyloyes timing chain, Edelbrock Performer manifold; sitting on it is an Edelbrock 600CFM 4Barrel, with a 6 deg wedge under it and a 5inch high K&N air filter. MSD 4x4 ignition box fire�s 20deg before TDC and 20deg after. MSD spark plug wires. Transmission is a custom C-4 with 2.94 1st gear transfer is the strong but small Dana 20 with 4to1 gears. To shift this B&M Truck Mega Shifter custom fit.
Front radius arms have been extended 18 inch�s using RM-16H1-1/4 �12 Rod ends, 7deg c bushing to bring castor back .To keep the front end from hitting the axle used R-21Firestone Air Bags, one bag can support 2500LBS It�s a little over kill.
Also I �am use small coil spring as bump stops there double as back up suspension if a bag blows.
The rear is a custom 3-link set up; Radius arms are extended 12inch using rod ends to connect with the frame. Also so using R-21 Firestone air bags. I believe 6-inch extension would work much better safety wise. To lift the bags I use a Ready Air Air compressor with a 4-gallon tank this is enough to run air tools at 120PSI at 60CFM .To dampen the corners Rancho RS 5012 not the best I would go for the 9000 series next time.
Rubber what else BFG�s last year they were 33�9.50X15 But I thought I could use a little more contact pressure so on went 35� 12.50X15 this is a great size for the weight of the Rover it stops wheel spin very effectively. But for those times when the tires do sink I break out the Ramsey Platinum 9500 use the ARB snack block will double the pounds of pull, as I have leaned do not try to pull with out giving the motor time to really cool down (you will pay for it if warranty is up)
Three 5 gallon gas jerry cans and one 5 gallon water and after Winter Romp a 10draw tool chest that is loaded from beer opener to propane heater and grill to 12DC spark plug cleaner, custom snow chains, lots of oils and lubes, Oh ya forgot the Hi lift jack don�t stand in front of them I coughed blood for a while. Dual heaters and heated seats, 5-point seat belts, Hummv steering wheel, On board welder, Ten coats of OD paint. All of the work custom or not was done by myself. No joke about 7 years of labor. Was it worth it? Just ask my X wifes.
Rick Hawkins
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Got some pics?
 

Nadim
Posted on Monday, February 18, 2002 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

44s? 9inchers? That is HD? My friends I have seen D70s explode...if you guys wanna run 33-35 inch tires, then stick to the Rover axles, with ARBS and rear 30 spline axles, at least the pumpkins are tucked and you are being a wee bit brand loyal.
I have a project undergoing testing now, I'll keep you posted. The components ARE HD and they will be running much much bigger tires.
I think that Justin should stick to the Rover components, do some upgrades and 35s won't be an issue at all! Phillip Perkinson is right apart from the SG suspension ("lawn chair", right Kyle)
My advice
 

Ron
Posted on Monday, February 18, 2002 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nadim,

While stock they are marginal you can build a D44/9in to a level impossible in a rover.

A rear 9in can run 40 spline chromo the front you can run 4340 30spline warns and 300m CTM joints.

You could safely run 38+ on them

Ron
 

Nadim
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

OK Ron, but you can also safely run 36s with the SG rear 30 spline axles and the ARB locker (or drop a nice Salisbury for the 38s)

Am I wrong?

I am not sure, as I am not building a rover setup for my buggy...I'll be running R******* front and rears...LOL...(they are actually cheaper here than a 10 spline rover!)

Cheers
 

Ron
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"OK Ron, but you can also safely run 36s with the SG rear 30 spline axles and the ARB locker (or drop a nice Salisbury for the 38s)"

The problem is the front. While the 30spline might be ok with 36s no front end rover has ever made will be long term reliable with 36s and a front locker.

Ron
 

Nadim
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

you speak the truth...but the original post asks for 33s or 35s...no need to go to a hybrid setup...
right?
 

Ron
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 04:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

35s is very sketchy with anything rover in front. If he is getting an atlas he has to swap out the rear axle (needs a center dif) so why not swap them both?

Ron

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