| Author | Message | ||
     Damien Vrontisis (Dvrontisis) Member Username: Dvrontisis Post Number: 180 Registered: 04-2003 |
okay. i cant get my fuel filter off. it hasnt been changed in all 90,000 miles on the car. the bolt is too rusted to come off. so, i went out and bought a similiar sized fuel filter, a fram, but instead of bolts on both sides, it has nipples for the gas line to fit on. i'm going to basically cut out the original filter and connect the hose on both sides with hose clamps. WILL this work properly? | ||
| Leo (Leo_hallak) Member Username: Leo_hallak Post Number: 92 Registered: 02-2003 |
Have you tried Twister or Kroil on the fittings? If you let it sit overnight you would be surprised how well it can work. I am sure that idea would work, but how well is the question, a lot of vibrations and bouncing going on to not have threated fittings. -leo | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1827 Registered: 02-2002 |
The replacement with a hose barbed filter is available (somewhere) as a retrofit from Rover. I use a Deutsch filter that is suitable for the higher pressures of fuel injection, along with hose clamps. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 867 Registered: 09-2002 |
not according to my local dealer, Paul. they will sell you a kit with two pieces of rubber hose terminated with proper fittings, and a screw-on filter. for only $50. The filter that comes in a kit is made by AC Delco. FWIW, the same filter made by Fram (G3727, IIRC) costs $11. | ||
| Damien Vrontisis (Dvrontisis) Member Username: Dvrontisis Post Number: 181 Registered: 04-2003 |
i believe thats the filter i bought peter. if the hose clamps are tight, i think it should prevent any leaking correct? even with heavy vibrations. | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1830 Registered: 02-2002 |
One way or another, you have to get around the crimped-on fittings and seized threads. The last one I pulled out, once I got the filter off, the threads were gone when I unscrewed the fittings. I do not think it is reasonable to expect someone to remove the entire fuel line from tank to filter and from filter to fuel rail to have a 3" piece of 5/16" tubing crimped on, and I see no other way to remedy this situation, and, this fix is only good until you go to replace the filter again. In parts of the world where they use salt on roads, these fittings get seized pretty darned well. | ||
| Damien Vrontisis (Dvrontisis) Member Username: Dvrontisis Post Number: 184 Registered: 04-2003 |
when i go to replace the filter again, i will just undo the hose clamps, put a new filter in, and retighten the clamps; correct? | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1833 Registered: 02-2002 |
Damien: While there are some who disagree with this method, it is the one I employ quite often. Peace, Paul | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 637 Registered: 02-2003 |
yeah range rovers came stock with the old screew on methode and then switched to the tube and nipple methode. just make sure the filter doesnt restrict the flow more than the stock one. rd | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1836 Registered: 02-2002 |
An awful design for the rest of the world where there is inclement weather, wouldn't you agree Rob? | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 639 Registered: 02-2003 |
lol, paul. i took a knife to mine without blinking. it's simply absurd given the location and what these trucks are potentially used for to have the screew in variety. LR must have got a deal on the screew in type is all i can think of. rd | ||
| Damien Vrontisis (Dvrontisis) Member Username: Dvrontisis Post Number: 186 Registered: 04-2003 |
question: we got rubber hosing to connect to the fuel line ends on each side (so that it securely fits on the nipple) however, the thing says... "not recommended for high pressure fuel injected engines" if i do this, is it safe without the fear of it coming apart and leaking? | ||
| Mark (Mrroverman) Member Username: Mrroverman Post Number: 45 Registered: 02-2003 |
Soak it with PB blaster overnight. Mine was rusted and i soaked it overnight and it worked. | ||
| Damien Vrontisis (Dvrontisis) Member Username: Dvrontisis Post Number: 187 Registered: 04-2003 |
but is rubber bad for this? | ||
| Damien Vrontisis (Dvrontisis) Member Username: Dvrontisis Post Number: 188 Registered: 04-2003 |
need to know as tomorrow i'll be attemping this | ||
| Damien Vrontisis (Dvrontisis) Member Username: Dvrontisis Post Number: 189 Registered: 04-2003 |
anyone? | ||
| D. Chapman (1hank1) On Probation Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 398 Registered: 02-2003 |
Some rubber will "melt". Be sure to use some kind of gas line. Did you try the Kroil or PB Blaster? | ||
| Damien Vrontisis (Dvrontisis) Member Username: Dvrontisis Post Number: 190 Registered: 04-2003 |
this rubber is specifically for a gas line, however it says its not recommended for fuel injected engines. also, yes, i had a mechanic soak it when he tried to get it off. | ||
| Nick A. (Nick) New Member Username: Nick Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2003 |
What's Kroil ? | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2360 Registered: 02-2002 |
it hasnt been changed in all 90,000 miles on the car There's the problem.... change it more often, and it won't sieze up so bad. FWIW.... -L | ||
| Damien Vrontisis (Dvrontisis) Member Username: Dvrontisis Post Number: 192 Registered: 04-2003 |
leslie- i purchased the car at 86,000 miles... stupid me, i assumed it had been changed at the dealership. i come to find out it has never been changed. | ||
| Leo (Leo_hallak) Member Username: Leo_hallak Post Number: 93 Registered: 02-2003 |
Its helps to get rusty or seized parts apart. I use it all the time to get get pulleys off electric motors... http://www.kanolabs.com/ -Leo | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2365 Registered: 02-2002 |
Damien, If you'll stick at it, you should be able to get it apart w/o cutting anything. When we got my wife's '95, I don't know when the last time it had been changed was, but it took considerably more efffort the first time I changed it than any time changing the ones on the '99 I had.... I'd suggest getting two open-ended wrenches that are the right size, so you won't round anything off, and then push in opposite directions with a firm, steady, constant pressure.... slowly, they'll start to move, then they'll be loose and should go ahead and unscrew the rest of the way easier. FWIW, I like PB Blaster best, but, WD-40 gets used more often just because I usually have some lying around, whereas I'll have already used up the PB Blaster. Good luck, -L | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1839 Registered: 02-2002 |
First off, the admonition on the hose is due to the elevated pressures encountered with fuel injected engines versus carbureted. The penetrants, patience etc. are all well and good, however, when I finally replaced the fuel filter on my own truck, the threaded fittings were so badly seized that when I removed them, the threads were gone... Be aware that if you can get the fittings out, it bears inspecting to insure they are still in good enough condition to be reused. If they are, you can cut the crimp ring off the fitting to expose hose barbs and the fittings can be reused with hose clamps and bits of tubing. If they are not reusable and you bought the screw-on filter, you're screwed as the parts houses sell "Bump" fittings, but they are $12 each! All of a sudden, your fuel filter change just got much more expensive. Peace, Paul |
