| Author | Message | ||
     Raj Tuli (Britrover) New Member Username: Britrover Post Number: 12 Registered: 04-2003 |
Wondering if anyone has sucessfully installed a HID/Xenon kit on a Disco. I see several H-4 HID bulbs with ballast and connector cable for sale on the web but wanted to inquire if anyone has any feedback on them. | ||
| Eric (Epuffy) New Member Username: Epuffy Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2003 |
I am trying to put either 1) a regular HID kit with adapted bulbs to fit a H4 housing 2) Projectors from an Audi A6 in the headlight housings Anyone have any experience or suggestions? | ||
| John Lombos (Rover4us) Member Username: Rover4us Post Number: 57 Registered: 02-2003 |
As far as I know, the Phillips HID kits I've sold (H4) have worked with no problems.http://www.hids4less.com/www/index.asp | ||
| Raj Tuli (Britrover) New Member Username: Britrover Post Number: 13 Registered: 04-2003 |
John, Do the kits you sell require modification to be fitted in the Disco ? | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1409 Registered: 04-2002 |
John, How well do they really work with the lens (beam pattern) in the Disco? And without an autoleveler I would think that you would blind the crap out of other vehicles if you had people or gear in the back. Also, wouldn't an H4 Xenon bulb be only Highbeam or Lowbeam? You wouldn't have the other in our vehicles. | ||
| John Lombos (Rover4us) Member Username: Rover4us Post Number: 58 Registered: 02-2003 |
To my knowledge, anytime you retrofit your rig with any HID kit-you will loose high beam. There are some companies now that are trying to make the high beam possible. But trust me, if you have HID, especially on a Disco or any truck for that matter, you won't need high beams!  I have seen an aftermarket HID kit on a Disco-looks great. No less blinding than those Bimmers and Audis and such. My suggestion is to get a good ballast (Phillips or Hella), the bulbs are gonna be made by different people. It will depend on where you buy from what bulbs they come with. The higher in Kelvin, the more blue and then more purple hue respectively. | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1410 Registered: 04-2002 |
I can say for a fact that the HID's that came with my BMW will not blind people unless they look into the light. The beam pattern is very cut off where it would blind anyone. Therefore I have to use the hi-beams (non-HID) when outside city areas. That's why the BMW also came with a autoleveler for the lights so that if I have two people in the back seat the lights won't air up enough to blind someone. Looking at the beam pattern of the NAS D2 headlights I would think blinding other people would be a real issue. For that reason I would think HIDs on a stock disco headlamp would not work well. If you need more light you might as well switch to high power bulbs but you'll still blind people but keep your high beams and do it for much less money. Just my 2 cents and not to rain on your parade John. I like HIDs but not when they might cause people to pass some new law to ban them because they're blinding the crap out of other drivers because they're not implemented right. Some of your kits seem very cool. And I like 5500-6500k bulbs but not just to get that cool blue (over 6500k) look (read "bling-bling"). | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 831 Registered: 11-2002 |
John I do not agree that you won't need your high beams. On my acura I have xenon headlights and yes they are bright, but there have been times when I have needed the brights so that I can see much better, I would never risk doing those modifications if i would loose my high beams. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 652 Registered: 02-2002 |
There are some H4 HID bulbs which have a solenoid inside that moves the bulb's discharge tube, so that it moves into the high-beam position. Your high-beam switch then controls the solenoid instead of a second filament. | ||
| Luis Constantin (Luisc) Member Username: Luisc Post Number: 97 Registered: 02-2003 |
http://sportsimportsltd.com/hidxenconkit.html Check out what they call bi-xenon HID. H4 retro kits that utilize the hi/lo beam by moving the bulb. Been eyeing this kit myself. | ||
| Eric (Epuffy) New Member Username: Epuffy Post Number: 5 Registered: 07-2003 |
Hey ya guys. Good info posted. I was originally going to do a retrofit into my existing housing, but I really worry about the glare factor. As far as I have seen, very rarely has anyone gotten a good non-blinding HID light from sticking a plain ol HID bulb in there. That's why I wanted the projectors, but yet again I have heard mixed reviews because of the textured glass lenses of a Disco I. Has anyone seen a projector in one before? I am also talking to a guy to make me custom clear headlamp lense, but that might be too expensive. Another thought was to grab some 03 Disco headlamps and try to fit them on my car! | ||
| Raj Tuli (Britrover) New Member Username: Britrover Post Number: 14 Registered: 04-2003 |
Lot�s of good information. Has anyone actually installed or seen a Disco with these modified HID kits. I do want to get an opinion prior to proceeding any further. | ||
| John Lombos (Rover4us) Member Username: Rover4us Post Number: 59 Registered: 02-2003 |
I have seen a NAS D2 fitted with aftermarket Phillips HID. It is bright but IMO not any brighter or "blinding" than all the other HID fitted vehicles, OEM or not. My wife's Acura has HID. I believe Honda/Acura uses 4300K bulbs. Her lights could be too bright. Some people's eyes recover faster than others. Good rule of thumb when on the road at night. "Don't look directly into the light" That's a nice feature on the Bimmer-never knew that. As far as needing brights, Chris-you are comparing the height stance of an Acura to a Disco. Big difference there. Unless you are reffering to an MDX. I mentioned the Kelvin rating so that Britrover would know that the color spectrum changes the higher the Kelvin, not to suggest go "bling-bling". PLus I don't think they are any brighter. Just my .O2...I find that I rarely use my brights on the Disco. And I live out in the sticks. If you decide to do it, just look to see that it is DOT legal and not "Off-road use only" I love HID. But if you have a serious illumination problem, mount some Hellas on the roof rack or brush guard and call it a day. But then again that wouldn't be considerate of others and wouldn't recomend it. Good luck! | ||
| Eric (Epuffy) New Member Username: Epuffy Post Number: 6 Registered: 07-2003 |
Raj, You could alwyas give it a shot. If your plan fails, just resell your HID kit on eBay! haha. I've heard that to compensate the glare problem is that alot of people are buying small reflectors/housings that go around the bulb. These direct the light a little better, and give off less blinding light up top. Otherwise, if you just want some bright lights go for some driving and foglights. Keep me posted on how your project goes if you do it! | ||
| Raj Tuli (Britrover) New Member Username: Britrover Post Number: 16 Registered: 04-2003 |
Sure Eric, I'll keep you posted if I go with HIDS. | ||
| Raj Tuli (Britrover) New Member Username: Britrover Post Number: 17 Registered: 04-2003 |
Eric, Just got some more info on the HID project.Found a Bi-Xenon kit for the Disco II.The kit has a H4 HID bulbs which have a solenoid inside that moves the bulb's discharge tube, so that it moves into the high-beam position. I'm pasting the link for the vendor: http://www.liteswap.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc? The only requirement with this set up is that the Rover should have at leat 2" behind the headlamp housing. Also most important if you want to pursue the HID/Xenon kit you might have to hurry. According to this vendor as of August 15th, 2003, the sale and importation of aftermarket HID retrofit systems will most likely be prohibited by law. The NHSTA/DOT has been trying to introduce new laws to regulate the sale of HID retrofit kits. Their guideline on determining the legality of HID kits is filament locations. But because HID technology does not utilize a filament, they fail. No matter how high quality the kit is, they deem them as unfit for retrofit. I am checking in with a Rover shop here locally in MA and if the tech says that this kit could be installed I will have it installed and will post some pictures as well. Cheers Raj | ||
| Eric Pena (Evalp) Senior Member Username: Evalp Post Number: 576 Registered: 06-2002 |
I see 'For off road use only' all over that site for all the products. I doubt these are legal anywere. |
