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Daniel Rork (Danrork)
New Member Username: Danrork
Post Number: 18 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:29 pm: |
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Thinking of going with 34-10.5's on my 95 with 4 inches of lift and RoverTym front arms and stock rear arms. Curious if anyone is running 34's with the same amount of lift. If so was there any serious rubbing in the rear door area or front door area. If so do you have to relocate the axels further out to accomidate this size with factory wheels. Any info or pics would be appreciated. Lastely would anyone recomend the 34-9.5's over the 34-10.5's to possibly help with any major clearance problems. |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 1100 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 05:12 pm: |
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Daniel, I am running 35x12.50. Check my profile and photo gallery for specs. |
   
James (Jimmyg)
Senior Member Username: Jimmyg
Post Number: 373 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 12:18 am: |
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I have a 4inch RTE lift on a 95 D1 and think that you may have rubbing on the door. Not much but just enough to take the paint off. I'm not sure though. I would stick with the 34-10.5. You can always move your axle back an inch. You have stock rear trailing arms? No vibes? I assume you have trimmed your rear qauter panels as well. |
   
Nadim Samara (Discodino)
Member Username: Discodino
Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 02:28 am: |
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CUT CUT CUT. Its very easy, and can be done very cheap at a professional shop. A buddy of mine BUTCHERED his 4 door RR in a VERY clean way and got charged 550 US$ (in Lebanon). Now with OME 2" lift, he has 35x12.5x15 tires. FULL FLEX. |
   
Jim Reynolds (4x4xfar)
Member Username: 4x4xfar
Post Number: 61 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 09:53 am: |
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Greg Davis you can chime in any-time now. Daniel, Greg is running 34's on his Disco2 it looks way cool!!! -Jim |
   
Nadim Samara (Discodino)
Member Username: Discodino
Post Number: 83 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 10:34 am: |
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Jim - Update. He's got 35x10.5 SSRs now. Looks Way CoolER!!! Anyways, It's all about useless metal |
   
Jim Reynolds (4x4xfar)
Member Username: 4x4xfar
Post Number: 62 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 11:04 am: |
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Nadim, Keef Halack,, you got that right, I have an FJ60 we cut the entire rear end off...it looks like a 4-door pickup, metal? what metal?? -Jim |
   
Nadim Samara (Discodino)
Member Username: Discodino
Post Number: 85 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 11:55 am: |
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Jim - That was funny to read...you prolly speak better than I do! True, Metal that is not dynamic on a 4x4 is useless! |
   
Daniel Rork (Danrork)
New Member Username: Danrork
Post Number: 19 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 12:48 pm: |
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I know that I should upgrade my rear arms to some adjustable heavier units and that is probably in the near future but for now I need tires and want to get something bigger than the 235\85. As far as vibes go there are none yet so hkopefully the tire change would not affect that. I guess it sounds possible to do with a little more trimming. Has anyone fabed up spacers for the ears that the link mount to. It looks like a simple spacer could be botled in to aid in relocating front and rear axels. thanks for the input so far from everyone. |
   
RVR OVR (Tom)
Senior Member Username: Tom
Post Number: 796 Registered: 07-2001
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 02:11 pm: |
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Dan - What 34x10.5's are you looking at? Different brands have different acutal sizes at that "published size". Unfortuneately, you can chat about it until you are blue in the face and still get it wrong. With that size on stock wheels you will probably rub on the inside of your spring perches at full stuff, so you have to worry about that as well. Move the tires out with different rims or spacers and now you have problems on the fender lip and door. A good approach might be to get the tires and then do some slow testing in your favorite flex spot. Provided you clear in everyday driving, you can temporarily (or even permanently) solve your rub problems with bump stops on the rear axle to cut down on uptravel. Then you can save up for the RT Trailing Links and A-Arm extension to correct the problem and get your uptravel back. Unfortunately, you can keep clear on the trail, but rub off of it. During stuff, the tire actually moves away from the body as the other side extends downward and towards the body. However on the road, doing 50 mph over a swooping dip for example, the weight shift forces the body downward while the entire axle travles upward at the same time. This can cause a rub with problems as the wheels have a larger diameter while at speed and they will hit the body with a greater impact. All while they may never have hit on the trail. Ask me how I know. Tom |
   
Daniel Rork (Danrork)
New Member Username: Danrork
Post Number: 20 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 02:38 pm: |
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I was looking at the super swamper ltb's, the price is right and it seems like it would be a great size tire. Tom you are probably right if I really want to do it just get them and see what needs trimed relocated and such for after the fact with some slow testing. The rubbing on the spring perches could that be helped by using an offset via spacers or wheels and going with the narrower 34-9.50's. I am surprised that more people aren't using the 34-10.5's it seems like it would be a popular size for the taller lifts especially with the amount of people comfortably running the 235-85 with only a 2 inch lift. that said now brings up the topic of is anyone running the 5 inch springs form anywhere with any comments. Daniel |
   
RVR OVR (Tom)
Senior Member Username: Tom
Post Number: 798 Registered: 07-2001
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 06:35 pm: |
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The LTB is a nice choice, assuming you know what you are getting into with going with what I consider a dedicated trail tire. I have the 33x12.5 TSL's which are .1" taller. Interesting how mine is a 33 and the LTB you are thinking about is a 34! It is tough to say wether or not they will rub on the door on your current setup (current rims). Remember, though, that the side lugs definately stick out farther than your typical 235/85 AT or MT. I had the 32x9.5's before the 33x12.5's and they were 6 ply vs. 8 ply for the 33's. To me, the 9.5's were good performers, but a bit to soft. Aired down the sidewalls flexed a lot and led to a more unstable feeling than my current tires. I don't know if this was attributed to more their width or their "ply rating", but I imagine it was a combination of both. As far as the 5" lift goes, you open up a whole new can of worms for both vibes and steering. If you are dialed in at 4" with no vibes, I would hold tight there so you don't have to change more than the rear axle to fit the 34's. I am fitting my 33's with the A-Arm extension and trailing links and minor trimming of the body behind the door, but not the door itself. Also, I have the Aedofab bumper which removed a lot of the rear of the wheel well. If you want specs for comparison of your truck as far as sizes and tires go which might help in your fitting dilemma, my specs are listed at http://tompearson.net/forsale. Tom |
   
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Senior Member Username: Gregdavis
Post Number: 937 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 08:30 am: |
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Daniel, are you planning on running these tires on the street much at all? If so, beware. I recently purchased a set of the 34x9.50 TSL bias plys. A few people commented that they were not bad at all on the highway. Let's just say some people have different standards than others. After about 600 miles I sold them, and went with the SSR radial. I was very uncomfortable with the bias ply's lack of response on the road. Every time I went into a sweeping turn I felt like I was going into a 4-wheel drift. They were awesome off-road, but damn scary on road. I just wanted to let you know this before you lay out the cash. And yes I realize that they are an off-road tire. But for many you have to get to the trail first. |
   
Perrone Ford (Perroneford)
Member Username: Perroneford
Post Number: 179 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:06 am: |
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The TSL's and the LTB's are not even close to the same compound. Here in the land of 100F summers and 80F winters, with rain about 4 days per week, I can say the LTB 34x10.50 has been a pleasant surprise for me in daily use. In the summer, I do a city/hwy mix of about 80 miles per day. In fall-spring, it's more a city mix with the occasional long highway trip. I have not had a moments trouble with this tire in any conditions. They do howl at speed though so you better have a good tolerance for it, or a loud Radio!
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Daniel Rork (Danrork)
New Member Username: Danrork
Post Number: 21 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 01:21 pm: |
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I have a set of 32-9 swampers that I run on occasion an do not find them much of a problem city or highway, but I do have a pretty loud stereo. I did a little measuring yeaterday and it looks as though the tires will clear for driving around town for now until I can figure something out on clearance for wheeling. I have a few ideas on ways make them work and will probably go for the ltb's. If anyone has any pictures of their rigs with some 34's on I would be curious to see how it looks. thanks for all the advice so far. Daniel |
   
Mike Carino (Mikec)
Member Username: Mikec
Post Number: 104 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 03:32 pm: |
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Daniel, I'm running the same lift as you and my tire size is a 33x12.50-16. Other than some rear quater trimming, everything seems to fit when flexed. I too however am looking at the LTB's in the same size as you for just off-road, so I compared the sizes of the LTB's against what I have now. LTB size 34x10.50-16 have a tread width of 9.25 and OD(outside diameter) of 33.6. My current tires 33x12.50-16 have a tread width of 10.1 and OD of 32.85. So if I were to switch I would gain a little over 3/4 of an inch in OD and lose 3/4 of an inch in TW. But it is all just numbers till you fit them up and see what actually happens on your truck. Let me know what comes about when you do. Mike |
   
RVR OVR (Tom)
Senior Member Username: Tom
Post Number: 799 Registered: 07-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:24 pm: |
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Dan - Check my photo gallery. My tires are only 1/10 of an inch shorter. This is on RTE 3" lift. http://www.discoweb.org/tompearson/index.htm Tom |