| Author | Message | ||
     todd powell (In4ma) Member Username: In4ma Post Number: 61 Registered: 05-2003 |
since we bought our 97 se discovery 7 months ago we have spent more time with it in the workshop than on the road. within the first 3 weeks of buying it, it was on the back of a towtruck. just died and wouldnt start. got it home. 1 hour later it just fired up first go. dunno wat was wrong there. then we have a huge oil leak. from the front of the block. the oil is red. transmission maybe? it goes away then comes back twice as bad. then 2 unis go. at the same time. then front and rear brakes go. within 2 days of each other. then the 2 weeks later the heater core explodes sending hot water gushing throughout the car. now we have a intermittent overheating problem. it uses water. but are told the engine is fine. also the indicator wont work. the indicator relay ticks by itself constanly when driving. whether i am indicating or not. when i do indicate they wont flash at all. also we have developed a puffing exhaust. a rattle somewhere under neath. a squealing front brake, constantlu. when i stop at a traffic light the engine revs then dies. when i try to take off its like i am running out of fuel. there are constantly squeaks and rattles that get louder every week.ythe front axel seals have recently gone. as has the gearbox output trans fer input seal. i think i might have bought a dud. i know these cars have problems but this is ridiculous. however it is mint offroad. and the only next best thing i can think of is a jeep wrangler. | ||
| John Moore (Jmoore) Senior Member Username: Jmoore Post Number: 764 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yikes! How many miles on that sucker? | ||
| Eric Olsen (Eric_olsen) Member Username: Eric_olsen Post Number: 47 Registered: 02-2003 |
Damn dude, that sucks | ||
| charles pastrano (Charles) Senior Member Username: Charles Post Number: 265 Registered: 08-2002 |
I think the Brits must have won the world cup or something when your car was built. | ||
| Garrett (Rover7592) Member Username: Rover7592 Post Number: 235 Registered: 03-2003 |
Todd, What year Jeep Wrangler are you looking at? My sister is getting rid of her 5-Speed in-line 6 cylinder, forest green Jeep Wrangler Sahara Edition with a tan top, waterproof seats, chrome rims, Wide Climber Mud Terrains (but never been offroad) a light bar with 4 light tabs, chrome grill insert, key required hood lock for safety, and a really expensive sound system. Parting out to get a Volkswagon Cabriolet (rabbit). If you are close and want to give it a look you are more than welecome. Not positive about year or mileage.If interested email me and i can get you some pictures. | ||
| Phil (Discoanywhere) Member Username: Discoanywhere Post Number: 55 Registered: 06-2003 |
Don't get a wrangler get a RUBICON! ..if you really feel you must get a joop.. | ||
| Luis Constantin (Luisc) Member Username: Luisc Post Number: 96 Registered: 02-2003 |
Seems like you got an abused car. Who ya shoulda called? Lemon Busters. | ||
| D. Howell (Blackandtan) Member Username: Blackandtan Post Number: 45 Registered: 04-2003 |
If you get a Jeep and want to off-road, consider a good-condition CJ7. They're certainly not as big as Discoverys, but way fun to drive. | ||
| todd powell (In4ma) Member Username: In4ma Post Number: 62 Registered: 05-2003 |
my disco has 179 000 kms. dunno wat that is in miles.bout 107 000 miles i think..but yer. it is stupidly ridiculous. found out today that the overheating is due to a busted clutch fan. hehe unless ya jeep is somewhere in western australia i am unable to have a look unfortunatly. i do love my rover but i cant keep spending money on it like this. wats a rubicon? | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 508 Registered: 11-2002 |
Damn, man...I thought MINE had problems. After hearing about yours, I am glad to have it in a "pristine" condition as it is! Thanks for reminding me how bad it could be! | ||
| todd powell (In4ma) Member Username: In4ma Post Number: 63 Registered: 05-2003 |
no worries mate. sigh. i think i will sell the old girl to a car yard and get a newer one. im thinking a diesel 5 spd manual.98 on would be nice.. | ||
| Peter J Blatt (Peteb) Member Username: Peteb Post Number: 188 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yea sounds nice! wish we had that option over here. | ||
| Phil Davidson (Bigbugga) New Member Username: Bigbugga Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2003 |
I had the mystery stopping problems in my 97 Disco as well. Turned out to be the plug under the back carpet the hooks into the fuel pump. Had worked loose and was shorting out every now and then, just wouldnt do it while anyone was trying to find the problem. Only found it by pure luck. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 692 Registered: 02-2003 |
fuel pump maybe dying
most likely your power steering pump, or something to do with that system. keep an eye on that.
what do you mean "go"?
you should have noticed this when test driving. had you tuened on the heater you would have smelled "piss"
i m almost certain that someone triped a partial interia sensor. if you hit a bump in the road hard enough it will turn onthe flashers if you hit it really hard it will shut down the fuel pump. i am guessing someone hit a mild bump and these things stated flashing and they didn't know what to do so they just unplugged the flasher bulb or it burned out from being on for so long. go under the hood of the truck along the back of the engine bay in front of the passenger you will see a rubber coated cylender about the size of your thrumb. push in on the top of this. the clicking should stop, the clicking is the relay for the flashers.
soundds like your catalitic converter/s are going out on you. ppep this article they might still be under warranty: http://www.discoweb.org/warranty.htm
sounds like the stepper motor, try cleaning it, http://www.discoweb.org/faq/stepper.htm though i think maybe your fuel filter is plugged or the pump is going out based on it not starting that one time. there are constantly squeaks and rattles that get louder every week.ythe front axel seals have recently gone. as has the gearbox output trans fer input seal. i think i might have bought a dud. i know these cars have problems but this is ridiculous. however it is mint offroad. and the only next best thing i can think of is a jeep wrangler. you indeed bought an unmaintained dud. a wrangler will do it all and more, but in a cramped tin box that is sometimes not reliable either. good luck rd | ||
| todd powell (In4ma) Member Username: In4ma Post Number: 65 Registered: 05-2003 |
lol. i hear all your advice. but i have bee through and done evrything on your list time and time again. the stepper motor shines it is that clean. i have stripped down the entire intake system and cleaned it all. the oil isnt power steering. i am not using any fluids anywhere...makes no sense...i am going to replace the front crank seal and the timing cover seal. getting a new clutch fan installed this week. exhaust...well it doesnt have cats on it. i dont think they bring them out in australia with cats. but i have modified it anyways. so it has a fairly new exhaust on it. the fuel filter is BRAND new. ran her nearly out of fuel then filled her right up before we replaced it. generally the engine itslf is in good nick. but it has some intermittent probs. she has been maintained her whole life. only one owner b4 we bought her. logbooks and all. by saying "go" i mean that they needed replacing IMMEDIATELY. i dont think i will buy a jeep. i will stick to a rover. just get myself something with less km's and a turbo diesel 5spd manual... | ||
| Shaun Power (Shaunp) Member Username: Shaunp Post Number: 100 Registered: 05-2003 |
Tod the stopping may be the ignition amp, the car stops and will come good after it cools down and the stalling may be the base idle being low not the stepper being dirty. I always find the base idle is low on cars with a few Km on the clock. I don't know what the red oil is, must trans or steering. They need brake pads some where between 80k km and 100k km with normal use so your on your second set. 170 k for uni-joints is not unexpected. The factory units have luberon washers in the ends that wear out at around 100k km and give a slight movement laterally,if they haven't been greased or got water in them they will die. I replace them with after market ones there not expensive. Who do you take it to in WA or do you fix it yourself. I'm in QLD. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 915 Registered: 09-2002 |
Shaun - he has a 97, no ignition amplifier. Todd - red fluid is most likely power steering fluid leak, and out of that, most likely - hoses to the reservoir. Piece of cake to fix. Yes, you did get more than a fair share of stuff to fail. Nevertheless - it will take you less money and effort to bring your Disco up to snuff than to buy a Wrangler. D.Howell - what's so great about a CJ7, styling aside? Always leaking valve cover on a 258? Dana 30 front axle? AMC20 rear with two-piece axles? (unless you're lucky to find a rare '86 with a D44)? 999 slushbox? | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 153 Registered: 04-2003 |
Did you buy your Disco sight unseen? Buyer has to take some responsibility to carefully inspect his purchase...there are plenty of scumbags out there that are perfectly happy to lie through their teeth & sell you a lump of shit. | ||
| Shaun Power (Shaunp) Member Username: Shaunp Post Number: 101 Registered: 05-2003 |
Peter Tod is in Australia the cars are different. We don't get the same injection/ignition that you guys get. 90s Disco's fell through a loophole in the ADRs which ment they didn't have to meet the same emission levels that normal cars did. Hense the Oz cars didn't run gems and the like. My car doesn't even have cats. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 923 Registered: 09-2002 |
you're right, Todd is in Land Down Under. | ||
| Enoch Snyder (Esnyder) Member Username: Esnyder Post Number: 71 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hmmm. If I lived in Australia I think I'd be driving a Landcruiser, anyway. All those rover headaches wouldn't be worth it when you could get a diesel LC. I think I'd give my Disco away if I could get a good 75 series troop carrier here in the States! | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 56 Registered: 05-2003 |
A Jeep, huh? There is a Jeep repair shop across from my house. He keeps the ones he's working on outside, so I have been looking. Now I know why someone who buys a stock CJ or Wrangler for around $20K U.S., ends up really spending another $15K on upgrading all the weak/marginal areas. I smirk at the stock springs, but laugh at the shackles and bolts. The T-5 transmission on a big V-8 is mis-matched. The owner told me he swaps out the T-5 all the time. Seems almost everything is under-designed. You improve one thing on a jeep and it soon exposes the weakness of something else. At least with a Rover, you have a decent base to start with. Same with Toyota. (But, I never liked the look of the FJ) | ||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Senior Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 361 Registered: 02-2003 |
Face it Jeeps are garbage from the get go. You cant ever go wrong with a toyota 4wd. they are the best. 2nd to the LR | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 934 Registered: 09-2002 |
sure you can. do you know how much does a 4.2 straight six weighs? and how good birfields are? FYI, jeep made a bunch of half-tons, which are not necessarily garbage. | ||
| Corey (Discobro) Member Username: Discobro Post Number: 245 Registered: 12-2002 |
Ever hit a BIG hole in the road with a Cherokee? Ouch!! Those uni-bodys were a good IDEA anyway. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 941 Registered: 09-2002 |
Cherokees only became unibody in 1984... | ||
| Corey (Discobro) Member Username: Discobro Post Number: 250 Registered: 12-2002 |
Only year of uni-body was 1984 or they started in 84? i have an 88 and positive (almost  ) that it's a uni-body. But besides the point, Cherokees are not bad for off road. They don't campare to the Wranglers or CJ's but if it's space your looking for they're alright. I've been everywhere in mine, with just a few suspension mods and tires. They obviously can't stand up to the Disco, but they have a low center of gravity, wide wheel base and VERY tight turn radius. Something to consider.... | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 942 Registered: 09-2002 |
all XJs are unibody, but SJ Cherokees began in 1974, not 84. and if they ever had a decent engine, they would stand up to Disco. |
