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     Cabzjam1 (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2003 |
I'm in need of advice. My DII has 50k miles with poorly rotated Michelins. It's mainly a DD about 20miles a day. Occasional offroad truck. Tow truck for my 87 Suzuki offroader. I've nearly stuck the Rover looking at hilly land. Had a few ground clearance issues offroading it. Time for new tires and lift. Thinking 265/75/16, BFG AT? MT's! or Toyo AT. Really like the MT. Concerned about ride. With this size tire, I will lift truck, can I get by awhile before lifting NO OFFROADING just DD. | ||
| Cabzjam1 (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2003 |
Toyo AT looks like a good tire. I've Toyo on some cars and they have been good tires. However this is a truck. Wonder if anyone has ran these tires on/off road and what they think. | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 675 Registered: 09-2002 |
245/75/16's require some trimming so highly doubtful 265's won't especially with no lift. Also do a search for "tires" and you will find all kinds of discussion. There should be plenty of information there for you. | ||
| Ted Moyer (Tedmoyer) New Member Username: Tedmoyer Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2003 |
BFG 255/70 r 16 AT's fit very nicely. It is the largest size that will fit on the spare tire carrier without relocating it. The AT's are very roadworthy - not noisy. If you do do some off roading, they are quite capable. | ||
| Cabzjam1 (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 6 Registered: 03-2003 |
OK has BFG changed the AT tread pattern? I've seen a new tread pattern on the AT but BFG's site does not show it. I think the MT has changed also? If that's the case these are great looking tires. So if I want 265/75/16 which is 31.7 x 10.5 lift first! 3" OME will fit these tires OK? Any other considerations? Will I need to trim/cut anything. I want to gain offroad traction/clearance without sacrificing onroad or cutting on the truck. It's a nice vehicle and at it's age I'm not ready to got whole hog on it. Besides that's would be alot on money. Besides I've got the Sammy to BUTCHER. | ||
| Cabzjam1 (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 7 Registered: 03-2003 |
265/75-16: Taller and wider than stock, possible to fit without lift. minor rubbing. Looks real balanced with mild OME lift. From tech section on Tire Wheel on DII. What is minor rubbing? Onroad/Offroad? Where does it rub? Inner fender, bumper, suspension? Thanks for any advice. I'm eager to buy tires because of the driveline noise I have. Dealer didn't want to work on that issue because of my tire noise. There is a difference, not sure they are willing to figure it out since it's sitting on 49,500ish. | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 676 Registered: 09-2002 |
You can't have both. Every core mod you make is a compromise of something. Putting a 3" lift with 265's will enhance your off-road performance but at the sacrifice of on-road performance. It's just a matter of how much you're willing to compromise in either direction. Have you even wheeled it in its current state to see what you need and don't need? | ||
| Cabzjam1 (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2003 |
Yes. I have wheeled it. I feel I need clearance and traction. I'm not looking to go too big just enough to help these issues. If I go with this lift and tire I don't want the truck to be less fun to drive onroad. I don't want to wheel it too much but when I do I want to be a little better than stock performance. If the truck was older and I didn't consider it nice and new then maybe I wouldn't care as much about how it rode. I realize that a lift will COG on truck and tires will change overall gearing of truck. However I don't want it to feel like it wants to lay over on every turn or not have any power. | ||
| Luke Tolson (Luke4696) New Member Username: Luke4696 Post Number: 34 Registered: 06-2003 |
Refer to pic located in my profile. I have a '00 DII with OME mild lift and new 265/75 BFG MT/KM's. Theses are the newest BFG MT's with the updated sidewall design and whatever else they have done (don't really know, don't really care). I have had this set up for just 3 weeks or so and have been very happy so far. I have been commuting weekly between Pittsburgh and Cleveland and driveability (spelling?) has not been compromised. Actually, the trucks handles better with the upgraded suspension and the tires seem to handle comparably on road as compared with the Michelin XPC's (these XPC's were new on the truck when I bought the car with 22K miles on it, it had 28K when I switched the suspension and tires). The BFG's are fairly quiet and smooth and drive great at highway speeds (I drive b/w 70-85 mph while commuting, I hate to make the drive longer than it needs to be). Anyways, the BFG's rub a tad when I back up, not quite sure what is being hit, but I think its inner fender or side skirt. I am honestly not concerned as the rubbing is minor and my inspections during cleaning have not eluded to any damage. Anyways, if you like the way the truck sits, go with the BFG's and the OME 2" medium duty lift, I have loved it so far. -Luke p.s. be prepared to change the roto flex thingy, as I am now preparing for the inevitable change that I hear so much about on this site | ||
| Luke Tolson (Luke4696) New Member Username: Luke4696 Post Number: 35 Registered: 06-2003 |
Also, do you have SLS or actual springs in the back? This could be something to consider when deciding b/w the 2 or 3 inch lifts. From what I can tell through reading all this stuff (and being in your same shoes 2 months ago), the 2" lift is mild enough to not warrant changing axles and gears for average off roading, as well as modifying your SLS to adjust for the increased height and not switching to actual springs. Once again, just my personal experience and $.02! -Luke | ||
| Cabzjam1 (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2003 |
Truck looks good Luke! That's what I'm wanting for my truck. Maybe 3" lift for alittle more clearance. No SLS too worry about. Do you have stock bumper? My real problem is the driveline noise (rotoflex). I'm almost out of warranty and would like to get this repaired. My truck has a growl when I let off of the gas or at the point in the throttle where I am sustaining speed but not gaining or loosing. It used to only happen at higher speeds. Now it's at around 55-65. More annoying than I'm used to. Going back to dealer on Monday and would like to have new tires on truck, so that will be one less issue with them. Even though I feel like my Michelins are good for at least another 10k. They whine alittle on the highway but it's not too bad. I know for sure what that noise is. The growl worries me alittle. Could be more serious than I think. Obviously I want the 265/75's but I can't get the truck lifted and new tires prior to running out of warranty. | ||
| Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith) Senior Member Username: Kennith Post Number: 369 Registered: 05-2002 |
Luke, Finally someone who agrees with me about the KMs. You absoultely can't go wrong with them. Cheers, Kennith | ||
| Cabzjam1 (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 11 Registered: 03-2003 |
Ok. I've looked at the stock tires and now I realize where the problem comes in. The front control links will rub with a larger tire on full lock. I assume that they rub on the front bumper skirt and possibly the front inner fender shield. What else am I missing? How will a lift help this situation with the control arm as it will move with the lift? Is the only way around this is to adjust the steering limit? Yes the BFG MT KM's do look good. | ||
| Cabzjam1 (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 12 Registered: 03-2003 |
Anyone? | ||
| Luke Tolson (Luke4696) New Member Username: Luke4696 Post Number: 38 Registered: 06-2003 |
Kennith, The MT/KM is the tire to have. I have always been a fan of the BFG tire line, running Comp TA ZR's on my Mustang, AT/KO's on my Tahoe, and MT/KM's on the Disco. Mr. Tennessee (I feel stupid saying Cabzjam, more stupid saying M'boro, and only fairly stupid for saying this), I would get the tires and lift after getting the rotofles fixed. Or, if you are chiming in on some other threads, replacing your rotoflex and subsequently lifting the truck 2-3" is just asking for a new rotoflex. From what I can gather, do the lift, tires, and rotoflex conversion all at the sametime and avoid having to tear down more components a few months into the future. About what is hitting what, I don't have a clue. My tires rub a little in reverse, and I assume they're hitting the skirts on the side. My goal is to get rock sliders and replace the steps (still need something to help get my 5'3" wife in the truck). It's up to you, but be patient and logical about your mods, and you should be extremely happy in the end. -Luke | ||
| Jerry Crawford (Jcrawford) Member Username: Jcrawford Post Number: 71 Registered: 08-2002 |
The issue I have with truck tires is they are so damn noisy on the highway. I know this Disco is't a Rolls but I'd sure like to diminish that road roar to the absolute minimum. I have HAKK 1's for winter and any off-roading I might do. Lot's of tires have traction add's touting the lugginess and griping of their brands but I've not come across any info that express how quiet the tire is. I need to replace my 80K mile Michlines after this last road trip and would like some imput about a quiet highway tire if one exists for the Disco? | ||
| Cabzjam1 (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 13 Registered: 03-2003 |
Yeah cabzjam1 is kind of goofy but I can REMEMBER it! Well I agree with you 100% lift, tires, rotoflex! However the rotoflex is got problems right now. My tires have about 10k left on them with the exception of the road noise they are fine with me. However the dealer cannot (will not make a great effot) verify the rotonoise over my tire whine. So I only need tires at this moment because of the dealer service needed. I only need a lift if I increase tire size. Monday I am going back to try to help them realize my noise issue over my tire whine. Maybe I'm wrong. It could all be in the tires? I've been wrong before. I think? Wonder what they would say if I showed up with a nice new set of gnarly mudders? Reckon the tires would be quiter? How do the BFG MT KM's ride and sound. I've got a set of ProComp 31" MT's on the Samurai. That truck rides like a RadioFlyer but the ProComps feel better than the old GoodYear Invictas. Who can hear any tire noise in that thing anyway. | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 14 Registered: 03-2003 |
So if I go with a 265/75 BFG MT where will it rub? Do I need to modify bumper? Assume that I have a 3" lift? Thanks. | ||
| david summers (Texmoto) Member Username: Texmoto Post Number: 72 Registered: 12-2002 |
Craig, Here is my experience (hope this helps): 99 DII, OME HD (751s} in the front, SLS in rear with RTE spacers. 265/75 Dunlop Rover M/Ts, ARB bull bar. No rubbing anywhere. However, this may be due to having mounted the tires on AB steel rims. Off set is different from stock. The tire "track" is wider than stock. Also, Rotoflex is behaving for the moment. Rear diff went out in January, but forget to ask if they changed the Rotoflex then. I am inclined to think so, as it is in very good condition. Vehicle has 43k miles. In you case, I would probably plan on trimming the spoiler if you are keeping the stock bumper. David PS If you plan on keeping the truck, get the LR extended warranty(sp?). You'll be glad you did. | ||
| Luke Tolson (Luke4696) Member Username: Luke4696 Post Number: 53 Registered: 06-2003 |
I have minor rubbing with the 2" lift, 265's, and factory wheels. After a minor isnpection, I think it is due to running boards which will be coming off the next time I get a spare Saturday. Go with the 265's, you won't regret it. -Luke | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1420 Registered: 04-2002 |
265's are the way to go on the D2. NO Rubbing on stock wheels. Some people have reported minor rubbing on the front part of the forward wheel well. HOWEVER, if you're towing with your D2 and go with the 265's you may want to move to 4.10 gears. | ||
| Luke Tolson (Luke4696) Member Username: Luke4696 Post Number: 54 Registered: 06-2003 |
Good call on the gear switch! Al (or anyone for that matter), did you get an increase in gas mileage when you switched from Factory gears to 4.10's coupled with the 265's? Regards, Luke | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 15 Registered: 03-2003 |
Broke down and bought new tires. Toyo Open Country AT's 255/70R16. Thought about the lift, gearing, etc. Decide that I really didn't need to go that route yet. Didn't feel the need to live with noise of old tires. Decided that I was just being cheap by not replacing. Thanks for all the info! Now just need to get the driveline noise/fixed?! |
