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Chris Rud (Rudrover)
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Username: Rudrover

Post Number: 3
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey gang,

Ok after I installed my OME HD lift I had absolutely no vibration, yesterday all the sudden I started getting vibration right around 2k RPM. I know that the stock driveshafts don't like lifts and tend to vibrate after a suspension lift so I guess a new driveshaft is an option.

I was also thinking of installing the Safari Guard 3 Link system to get the drive line AND castor angles back to stock. I'm just wondering if this would cure the problem as well? If it would I like the idea of the 3 link system since I would hopefully get rid of the vibration and add some suspension travel at the same time.

So who out there has had driveline vibration and got rid of it...and how did you get it done?

Thanks,
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Chris Rud
1992 Range Rover Classic
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
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Username: Billb

Post Number: 897
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Chris,

I'd start with some basic things first - how old are the stock u-joints? - If suspect at all - start with replacing all 4 of them. Your lift will make u-joints go bad faster, so if you had one or more that was already on the edge - the lift probably did it in.

You didn't say how much lift you have - but OME HD without spacers is 2+" - so should not be too bad to solve without going to expensive stuff like CV DS and $G 3-link.

Bill
 

eric johnson (Eric2)
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Username: Eric2

Post Number: 64
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have the OME HD lift on a '90 RR 165K - no vibration. Get under there and yank the front shaft around. The bad joint will be obvious.
It was prolly ready to go out soon, anyway.
 

Chris Rud (Rudrover)
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Username: Rudrover

Post Number: 4
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok I'm going to check my U joints. I did grease them up yesterday...they were overdue, and the vibration cleared up a bit. Since I had no vibration at first I bet it just might be a bad u joint or 2. I do have 172,000 miles so they might all need replacement.

I'll update soon.

Chris
1992 Range Rover Classic
 

David Woo (Davidwoo)
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Username: Davidwoo

Post Number: 23
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've also heard of folks using a double carden shaft to get rid of the vibration: anyone tried that yet?
DW
 

Michael Harris (Hsvrangie)
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Username: Hsvrangie

Post Number: 11
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Double cardan shaft requires that the diff pinion to be pointing at the centre line on the d/cardan joint.

Fit new unis first.
50mm lift should not cause major vibe issues.

Castor should be the bigger issue.
RR has 3 degees castor std, every half inch lift you loose 1 degree.

Michael.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 413
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just put a DC front shaft from a DII on my 93 RRC. I have a 3" lift with no caster correction and was getting vibes from the stock shaft. The difference is night and day, I had the truck up to 80mph this weekend with no vibes - I'm happy.
 

Randall Smith (Mr_smith)
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Username: Mr_smith

Post Number: 26
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just want to confirm what Steve posted. The best oportunity for reducing DS vibration is going to be by using a DC DS.

The DiscoveryII front driveshaft is much better at this than all those yahoo brands, even though they look simular. Difference: The LR driveshaft is balanced on a machine that actually simulates the way it operates on the truck.

Disadvantage of DisII front DS: You have to custom make the TC adapter. Also it would probably be easier the buy a new factory balanced DS, than to replace u-joints and try to get it rebalanced again.

Randall
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 416
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Interesting points Randall. I'm not sure that the DII DC DS is as strong as those 'yahoo' brands but it's certainly balanced. I think there is a way around the custom adapter issue. When I had the LT built, I specified a DII flange. I was checking out the t-case end today and there is definitely no adapter used, the shaft is bolted directly on to the flange a la DII.

I did read elsewhere that the DC u-joints are not serviceable on the DII shaft, but that GBR has a rebuild kit which replaces the 2 rear u-joints with serviceable joints. That maybe the way to go down the road as it were.

sc
 

Randall Smith (Mr_smith)
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Username: Mr_smith

Post Number: 27
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Steve

I never even thought about swapping output flanges on the transfer case. That would be best because the adapter really should be on the drive shaft when it gets balanced.

The Borg Warner TC calls for a drive shaft which is 1.5" longer than the LT TC. So an aluminum spacer/adapter is not unreasonable for a Range Rover with the Borg Warner.

My advice: Use the least amount of lift required to clear your tires. Install the DiscoII drive shaft. Get some radius arms to correct the pinion and castor angles. Then resist the urge to lift it some more.

Randall
 

A. Ali (Alia176)
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Username: Alia176

Post Number: 86
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

" Then resist the urge to lift it some more. " - Randall

Yeah, right :-)
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 421
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The only thing resisting my urge to lift are the radius arm bushings :-)

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