| Author | Message | ||
     Will Cupp (W_cupp) New Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 9 Registered: 07-2003 |
http://www.drivetrainsuperstores.com/store_detail.asp?id=1106 Anyone know of a better price? | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 207 Registered: 04-2003 |
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/tractech/ Anyone know of better service? | ||
| John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom) Member Username: Jfriedlvcmcom Post Number: 62 Registered: 02-2003 |
That is the best price I've seen. like the old saying, though, ITSTGTBT, IPI. Good luck, hope the old Karma thing doesn't bit you on delivery or installation. I've had it with trying to save a buck or two. Love my front TT. Let me know how it turns out. John F Las Vegas, NV 2001 D2 | ||
| Will Cupp (W_cupp) New Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 10 Registered: 07-2003 |
I ended up getting it from Drivetrain Direct. $359.00 I talked to several local people who have lockers and HD axles and have gotten there stuff thru them. They seem to be good people. Customer service was good and shipping was only 24.00 | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 213 Registered: 04-2003 |
way to save a buck | ||
| Leo (Leo_hallak) Member Username: Leo_hallak Post Number: 108 Registered: 02-2003 |
I like to save money but I think its a good idea to support your community of specialized LR parts people. But its your money.  -Leo | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 577 Registered: 05-2002 |
...and to think that you had to research a place and talk to several people to save the whopping $41. Then you had to post here to see if there were any better prices. I can't speak for the support from DD, but EE would have helped you in any way they knew how. Next time just go to John and let them do all the research for you. It is worth the 10% extra $. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 214 Registered: 04-2003 |
But wait, "drivetrain superstores" had it for $324.95, while "drivetrain direct" had it for $359.00. You could have saved an additional $34.05 if you went to the superstore. Probably could have picked up a pallet of frozen chicken for a great price while you were at it, too. I am no longer impressed. I imagine there's a place called "drivetrain chop shop" or some similar moniker that would have it even cheaper. | ||
| Will Cupp (W_cupp) New Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 13 Registered: 07-2003 |
I don't think it was a matter of saving a buck. First of all it was 40 bucks. Second, what really swayed my business that way was because of there warranty service. When I was on the phone with them the sales rep mentioned that if I were ever to have a problem with it they would send out a new one the day of the call and charge my credit card. When the new one arrived they would give me the credit back. I asked him about the broken axle deal where Tracktech would not warranty the diffs if the damaged was caused by broken axle. http://www.flatfenderltd.com/detroit_locker_myths.htm He told me they stand behind what they sell and if the unit breaks they will replace it. The smaller guys, like EE, cannot do this, or at least it does not say that on there web page. So Blue, Im sorry if I offened you buy not taking your advice. | ||
| Jay Hobbs (Jayxd) Member Username: Jayxd Post Number: 163 Registered: 03-2002 |
Hmmm... looks to me like EE stands behind the products they sell http://www.expeditionexchange.com/about.htm | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 215 Registered: 04-2003 |
do you really think the service from the warranty dept (aka "loss dept") will be as stellar as the service from the sales dept (aka "revenue dept")? LOL, don't be surprised if your warranty inquiry is routed to India! Of course this is not necessarily true for this particular company, but it is a general fact of life. The "superstore" and "direct" web ID's say it all. I wish you no ill will, and I hope that everything turns out fine for you (that TT will probably never break), I'm just trying to make a point about what you're buying for that $41. I don't think we'll be fielding technical questions about your TT here on DWeb, will we? Does drivetrain direct have a good technical support website? | ||
| Will Cupp (W_cupp) New Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 14 Registered: 07-2003 |
"Warranties On Others' Products. We provide no warranty to supplement whatever warranty the manufacturer provides because we cannot control the manufacturer's production and quality control. We will, however, make every attempt to handle any warranty claims you might have regarding a defective product you purchase from us, as we may have more bargaining power with the manufacturer than the average consumer might." This is what every small business owner has. Drivetrain Direct will warranty the product no questions asked. EE has a good business, and a great web site, and I have no problems with EE. As I am a small business owner too I know there is only so much you can do. The bigger companys have a upper hand on pricing. I support my local community with what ever I can. Business insurance, maintance, the productes I sell, the supplys I need, etc... Buy everyone of us has shopped at Wal-mart. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 216 Registered: 04-2003 |
I haven't. In 1992 I went to Walmart with a buddy and he bought an inner tube for his mtn bike, but that's about it. I have, however, purchased a pallet of frozen chicken and cases of wine for my family at Costco. | ||
| Will Cupp (W_cupp) New Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 15 Registered: 07-2003 |
It's funny Blue, but where I live in VA a case of chicken is not a uncommon purchase. Even in the summer months you can ride down the road on the weekend and see chicken halfs for sale, $2.50. Kindda like when I went to Collage in GA. You would see Hot Boiled Peanuts for sale along the road side. | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 306 Registered: 03-2003 |
Will, Spend your money wherever you like. It's your money. And you didn't call us and email us and brain rape us, so I don't think there's anything wrong with your purchasing your stuff from other than EE. I'm just curious about one thing though. Why didn't you buy your TT from Drivetrain Superstores? | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 459 Registered: 02-2002 |
You probably are required to buy a 4-pack of TTs at the Driveline Costco. Volume discounting, you know. | ||
| Shawn McKenzie (Shawn) Member Username: Shawn Post Number: 88 Registered: 10-2002 |
It appears that Will took advice from others local to him and based his decision to pay a bit more on their positive recommendations of this company. | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 460 Registered: 02-2002 |
Shawn- Before you pat yourself on the back, you might want to read the fine print: Will originally asked about:
but ended up buying from:
John's asking why he didn't buy from Drivetrain Superstores.com | ||
| Will Cupp (W_cupp) New Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 16 Registered: 07-2003 |
John, its not that I think your company is bad or that you were more expensive. I did alot of my research over the internet. Your site was full of information so I did not see the need to call you. You have to charge the amount that pays the light bill. The only recommendations I saw for you were from people on the internet. I don't know these people. They are on your payroll for all I know. I went with the recommendation of people I know in person. I am going to need some spring retainers and other odds and ends in the future. Maybe I will give you a call. | ||
| Leo (Leo_hallak) Member Username: Leo_hallak Post Number: 109 Registered: 02-2003 |
John if you are paying people to recommend you sign me up.. -leo | ||
| Shawn McKenzie (Shawn) Member Username: Shawn Post Number: 90 Registered: 10-2002 |
Koby, The way I read the posts, Will was initially looking for anyone who knew of a better price than that offered by drivetrainsuperstores.com After learning that no one here knew of a better price (or if they do, they aren't talking  ) he then posted what I quoted above. ie: personally knew satisfied customers of Drivetrain Direct, and felt they offered good customer service for the price premium. I'm probably reaching here, but if a post had come back about "XYZ company going out of business TT for $249.00" Will may have decided the Drivetrain Superstores propostion to be less attractive. I wasn't trying to pat myself on the back, but when I read John Lee's post regarding the estimable lack of Brain Rape™ and his curious question: I felt clarity might be useful in quelling the kernel of CB bashing I detected in John's post. ¹niggardly in Canada. | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 307 Registered: 03-2003 |
Shawn, shut the fuck up. Nobody asked you anything. Not only are you a cheap fuck, you're a stupid fuck as well. Will, as I said before. You don't have to explain yourself about why you didn't buy from EE. That's cool. You didn't brain rape us. You didn't waste our time on the phone. Feel free to shop where you like. All I wanted to know was why you didn't buy from Drivetrain Superstores. I was curious because I wanted to know if Drivetrain Superstores was actually stocking the diffs for that price. That was all. No kernel of CB bashing intended. | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 461 Registered: 02-2002 |
Shawn- Get over yourself. Let Will answer for himself. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 219 Registered: 04-2003 |
All I want to know is what does a hot boiled peanut taste like? Is it firm, or chewy? Kind of like boiled ice cream, I never understood that one either. I'd like a glass of hot ice, please, and some fresh wine, thank you. and John, where the fuck is this month's check, you bitch? | ||
| Ken Doss (1disturbedtruck) New Member Username: 1disturbedtruck Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2003 |
Boiled peanuts are a one of the souths fine foods! they are right up there with boiled greens and instant gritts. They are kinda soggy , maybe even squishy. I never developed a taste for them. Being that I'm from New Mexico I'm a northerner and just don't get it. Ken | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1778 Registered: 02-2002 |
John, Can I get on the payroll as well. Boeing stock is down right now and I have to eat. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 220 Registered: 04-2003 |
Get in line, Paul. John, give me the payroll cash, and give Paul some stickers... In all seriousness, Will, my only association with John & Ho is that I've bought a few meager things from them and really appreciated the way they do business. I've also met them wheeling and respect them as stand-up guys that tell it like it is. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1779 Registered: 02-2002 |
Can I trade in my EE stickers for Beer? Paul "will work for beer" | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 580 Registered: 05-2002 |
LOL. So, back to the question: why did Will not buy from MegadrivetrainEXTREMEmart.com? They have the Chinese variatnt of the TT for $7.99. They invert the logo and call it the "TT" to avoid trademark violations. | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 581 Registered: 05-2002 |
John, I apologize for responding on this board, but could you please send the check the address on file. -C | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Senior Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 380 Registered: 10-2002 |
Mr. Lee, If one were to buy a TT from you and it failed due to some reason other than improper installation, how would you remedy the problem? Naturally, the person would want it replaced ASAP.... | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 462 Registered: 02-2002 |
Failed how? Like if your TT were to be damaged while on a highly classified WWII mission to retrieve a top-secret Nazi decoder? Oh wait... my bad, that was U-571 Seriously though, Jimmy, why do you care? Are you planning on buying a TT from John? | ||
| Will Cupp (W_cupp) New Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 17 Registered: 07-2003 |
John, I did not use Drivetrain Superstore because no one I knew of had purchased anything from them. Word of mouth. I don't know if they stock the diff or if it is drop shipped. Mosy likley dropped shipped. Everyone else, I first posted before all of my "research" was done. I thought the 325.00 was a real good deal, and it is. But if this is just a hole in the wall shop what would there warranty service be like. I hope I never need the warranty, but shit happens. EE was brought into the picture. EE did not have a bad price on the diff. Randy's Ring and Pinion was 425.00 and I think it was National 4-wheel drive who was 459.00. With out looking, EE was I think 400.00. That is not a bad deal at all if you shop around. | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 463 Registered: 02-2002 |
Will, it's funny that you should say that because that is precisely the way I found EE. | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 738 Registered: 02-2002 |
thats because John has everyone here on his payroll to spread the word!! | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1320 Registered: 04-2002 |
"John, I did not use Drivetrain Superstore because no one I knew of had purchased anything from them. Word of mouth. I don't know if they stock the diff or if it is drop shipped. Mosy likley dropped shipped." Will, I couldn't help but ask after reading all of these posts, but if you are only willing to shop from somewhere that your personally known friends have used, why did you ask for a better price on the internet from people you may not have met? | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 312 Registered: 03-2003 |
Isn't it remarkable how people's stories change to suit the situation? | ||
| Shawn McKenzie (Shawn) Member Username: Shawn Post Number: 91 Registered: 10-2002 |
Isn't it also remarkable (and predictable) how John Lee resorts to childish profanity, name calling and my personal favorite: On a BBS no less! Pre-emptive belligerence strikes again. Kind of makes any new users want to flock to you John, as you articulate your position so professionally. LOL | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 314 Registered: 03-2003 |
As I said before, nobody asked you anything. My question was specifically directed to Will. You officiously responded because you sensed (incorrectly) that I was slamming a fellow cheap fuck and you rushed to to defend your brother in arms. You can say, "it's a BBS" all you want, but the fact remains that you had a knee-jerk reaction to a perceived poke at a fellow cheap fuck. So you reacted. Your reflex shows that you are a cheap fuck, which is why I called you a cheap fuck in the first place. I also referred to you as a stupid fuck. You're a stupid fuck because there was no poke intended. You're so stupid you can't tell when someone's asking a simple question. I was merely asking Will (not you) question about Drivetrain Supertores because I was curious if DS was stocking the diffs for that price. And you're also a stupid fuck for thinking "it's a BBS" a defense to "nobody asked you anything". | ||
| Richard Dekkard (Richard_dekkard) Member Username: Richard_dekkard Post Number: 126 Registered: 04-2003 |
"You didn't brain rape us." Buhahahahahaha... Im going to steal that one.... | ||
| Shawn McKenzie (Shawn) Member Username: Shawn Post Number: 92 Registered: 10-2002 |
That's it John? Three lousy paragraphs and 7 f**ks? You're getting soft.  Move along folks, nothing to see here... | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Senior Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 381 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hey, I gave Mr. Lee a chance to tell why his service was any better than any other person. Guess it IS NO better. I can go to Rovertym and pick up a TT for less and get better service. You don't see folks from Rovertym acting like a little bitch on D-web, do you? EE is good for many, but far from the "best". I'm waiting for EE to start selling "EE Land Rover Diapers" right next to their watches. D-web is no place for these pissing matches!!! Take your frustrations out on the trail. | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 464 Registered: 02-2002 |
You asked a loaded question Jimmy. You are far from being the one that says that "D-web is no place for these pissing matches." Why don't you just lower your periscope and run silent, run deep? | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 465 Registered: 02-2002 |
Greg, he covers that when he says
That's if you take his words at face value. Like John says, things can change at a moments notice. This is, after all, a BBS. LOL | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1323 Registered: 04-2002 |
Yeah, that addresses why he asked for a better price, but it doesn't address the fact that he is wasting the boards time because he will only buy from somewhere that he can get intimate knowledge of through someone he actually knows. Does anyone on DWEB actually know Will? Hence, again I ask, if you are only willing to buy from a place that one of your friends has used, and you obviously are not really looking for the best price, why did you waste the boards time? Seems like you should have said, does anyone know of a better price from somewhere that one of my personal friends have shopped? | ||
| Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp) Member Username: Mike_rupp Post Number: 237 Registered: 02-2002 |
"Hey, I gave Mr. Lee a chance to tell why his service was any better than any other person." Just look at his web site. Just from a quick look at John's site, you can tell that he has spent a lot of time researching the products he sells. He also stocks his products, which costs money. Did you ever think thats why his products might sell for a few bucks more than someone who has them drop shipped? Try getting an answer out of some XYZ mail-order shop that sells a TT for $350. They probably wont even know what a third member is. How does Rovertym have better service? Is it their quick drop-ship service? Or is it technical support? When my brother ordered a Detroit from Rovertym and had some questions, they didn't even know to test the Detroit. I posted a question here on my brother's behalf & John answered the question. That's why I buy from EE. | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 466 Registered: 02-2002 |
Aaaaahhh. Ok I understand. Seems to me he should have asked his friends first, then asked Discoweb. Either way, it can't hurt to have information from a variety of sources. | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 318 Registered: 03-2003 |
"When my brother ordered a Detroit from Rovertym and had some questions, they didn't even know to test the Detroit." Hmmmm. Perhaps Daniel Chapman aka D. Chapman aka "Kyle Tressle" got his Detroit from RTE? Daniel didn't know how to unlock his Detroit either. | ||
| Ron L (Ronl) Member Username: Ronl Post Number: 136 Registered: 11-2002 |
"I can go to Rovertym and pick up a TT for less and get better service." James....Take a video camera with you, I NEED to see this. | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 467 Registered: 02-2002 |
Ron- He won't. He can't. He's just talking out of his ass again. Zero credibility. | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Senior Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 385 Registered: 10-2002 |
The TT is cheaper from Rovertym. That is a fact. I've dealing with Rovertym for about 3 years and have had perfect service. That is a fact. Does Rovertym know much about the TT, I do NOT know. Koby, get a life. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1325 Registered: 04-2002 |
blabbbbbb, blahhhhh, blahhhhhhh Still haven't heard why one would ask strangers on Dweb for a better price when they are only interested in buying from somewhere that their friends have tried. I mean, if you want the best price, you want the best price. If you want the best price from where your friends shop, you ask your friends, not a poll of 1,600 people from around the country. Just be honest, and don't try to bullshit people about your motives and questions, and you probably won't get attacked by the sharks. | ||
| Will Cupp (W_cupp) New Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 18 Registered: 07-2003 |
Dam, I walk away for a day and the post turns into this. Price is not always everything. I had no idea what a TT cost until a few days ago. When I posted here I had found a price of 325.00, Rovertym's 380.00 and Drivetrain direct's 360.00. If you look in any 4x4 mag. you see the TT's listed for 299-350 for dana's and toyotas. I thought 380.00 may be high, but thought 325.00 could be beat. After taking with friends they advised me not to go with drivetrain superstore, and use Drivetrain Direct because they had good service with them as far as returns and warranty replacements. No one on this board made that point. No one on this board has told me why I should pay over 360.00 for the TT. It just does not make since to me. Is EE's service going to be 40.00 better for me? How? What can EE do for me that Drivetrain Direct can't? Like I said before, I am a small business owner also. Service is what sets me apart from the guy down the street. What service can EE give that Drivetrain Direct cannot? Im sorry, if I was looking for a Land Rover only part, like sliders or spring retainers, EE or rovertym would be the guy's to call. Companys like Tracktech, ARB, OME or TJM don't make these things and there is not a huge market for them. So paying a few extra bucks may make all the difference in the world. But, there was no need to spend 400.00 on a Limited slip diff. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 234 Registered: 04-2003 |
yes, Will, posts tend to get overly dissected for some reason, most likely due to simple boredom. I dropped EE's name because no one had replied to your query, among other reasons. Looking back, my subsequent badgering was unwarranted. Oh well, it's the internet, what can you do? | ||
| Michael Villanueva (Iron_chef_air) Senior Member Username: Iron_chef_air Post Number: 341 Registered: 02-2002 |
"Oh well, it's the internet, what can you do?" Find Jesus and raise peaches? |
