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Swamprot (Swamprot)
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Username: Swamprot

Post Number: 8
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I know that 4x4's aren't all the same. But since I don't know much. Have had a Suburban which I absolutely loved. Had to lock the hubs when in 4 wheel drive.

Had some folks say Jeep but I have heard that Rover 4 wheel drive is a step above. Is this true and can someone explain that.
 

trevor griffiths (Trevorgriffiths)
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Username: Trevorgriffiths

Post Number: 128
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just my opinion, so take it at your own risk! I have a shop that specialises in Rover (and other British and italian autos), and feel that the basic architecture is very sound.
On the other hand, one could probably build a Jeep for less than a Rover, and have monies left over to fix the Jeep when things break.
Solid axle, coil spring, disc brakes all the way around, lockable center diff (on some) and decent capabilities stock make the Rover a formidable off-road and on road vehicle.
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Username: Muskyman

Post Number: 317
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A stock rover allready is a very competant, capable truck stock. most other vehicles need lots of building to get to where a rover comes stock.

ad that to the super level of comfort and you have a great destination vehicle
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
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Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1428
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

IMO, the only Jeep that comes close to a Rover is a TJ. Coil's on all four, solid axles and body on frame construction. But the Jeep (TJ) is built light so in generall they have weaker off the shelf parts. The 4WD system on the Rover is basic. You have a transfer case and (on most) a locking center diff. Jeep (TJ's) are 2WD and 4WD (no open center diff when in 4WD). People always think there is something fancy on the Rovers but there really isn't. Just good articulation out of the showroom floor and solid (also read heavy) components. Jeep figured that out with the TJ and finally moved from leaf springs to coils. This doesn't apply to the 2005 Discovery, Freelander, and new Rangie.
 

Swamprot (Swamprot)
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Username: Swamprot

Post Number: 9
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So what is being said aside from being built heavy with a fair amount of luxury?

The full time 4 wheel drive along with the Center Differential Lock is the big thing.

Low Lock must be "bad" (Good!)?
 

Michael Noe (Noee)
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Username: Noee

Post Number: 706
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Don't discount the articulation, ain't nothing like keeping wheels on the ground.

FUnny, we went wheelin this past Sun with a D2 w/OME 2", AT Dunlops and CDL (mine), a D1 w/4" lift, ARB, MT/Rs (32"), a TJ with much miles and 2" OME with MT/Rs (31"). The disco drivers were...ahem....somewhat experienced and the TJ driver did not appear to know the TJ too well (his brother's), but after airing the MT/Rs down, the TJ was fun to watch, though it must've had the sway bars connected as the articulation was very limited compared to our discos.

He didn't take the TJ all the same places as we went, but he did well on the smaller obstacles with only a lost side step and a few scrapes underneath. Funny how the "2 inch" OME on the disco, while not much, looks huge compared to the OME 2" on the TJ.

First time I'd ever been out with a jeep and it was fun watching how the different trucks work, I really wanted to drive the TJ, looks like a fun truck.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
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Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1431
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah... to get a 32-33" tire to fit in a TJ you need about 4" of lift where our D2's will need under 2" to get the same shoe to fit. It is cool to see how much more travel the little TJ's get with the sway bar disconnected. I know we tend to bash on the Jeeps here but the TJ's are pretty easy to setup nice. But given the choice I would make mine a Rover. It's in the details. :-)
 

Bruce Potier (Brucep)
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Username: Brucep

Post Number: 19
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Let’s not forget the weight factor either. I have a few buddies that drive new and older jeeps and I am constantly surprised at what these little lightweight vehicles can crawl through and over. However, when it comes to articulation, this stops them all since their mods have not increased this function. So, when we pass through an area where our Discos may huff and puff, these little jeeps just kinda skirt over the top.
Would I ever get one, not on your life!

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