| Author | Message | ||
     Joey (Joey4420) Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 129 Registered: 04-2003 |
Ok, I know that my '97 Disco (Stock) is not four wheel drive, but two. Going up a slightly off camber hill, both left tires spinning and I was going no where....this was no fun. What are my best options to make my Disco go better without my wife shooting me for spending too much money? | ||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior Member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 320 Registered: 11-2002 |
practice choosing lines | ||
| Luke Tolson (Luke4696) Member Username: Luke4696 Post Number: 68 Registered: 06-2003 |
locking differentials? How much is too much money? (or more importantly, how short is your leash?) | ||
| Phil Davidson (Bigbugga) New Member Username: Bigbugga Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2003 |
Picking the right line help's Or if spinning is what you want then here is a Disco that runs about over this side of the world. http://www.fastlane.com.au/Custom_Shed/Smoking_Disco.htm | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 130 Registered: 04-2003 |
Well unfortunatly I did not have a choice on the line. I was trying to get around an object way to big to drive over (a house) I needed to get to the other side (no not the road and I was not a chicken) I was trying to get some work done around my house and needed the rover on the other side. Living in WV means I live on the side of a hill. I bought a Disco because even on a good day if you drive a back road in WV you need a good 4-Wheel drive vehicle. Of course I am sure the stock XPC did not help on the grass I was trying to go up. Leash is not too short, but I don't want to spend so much that it becomes that way. My wife and I have a very good relationship. I make all the money and she does her best to make sure the bills are paid and that I don't spend all the money. I Love her and she still lets me buy some toys. Hey she didn't raise too much trouble when I spend $1500 dollars on a new varmint rifle. | ||
| Luke Tolson (Luke4696) Member Username: Luke4696 Post Number: 70 Registered: 06-2003 |
Joey, Whats the varmint rifle for? The only thing you need in Cleveland is a .40 cal becuase the guy trying to break in your window isn't that far away(though my H&K wasn't cheap, so it's a moot point). If you can get away with $1500 or so, maybe look into ARB air lockers. This would allow you to have normal driving operation until you need all 4 wheels to spin instead of just 2. You can get the kits for around 1300 or so, but then there is always the install... | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 131 Registered: 04-2003 |
hmmm now that would be an Idea. I have thought about lockers, but would I need both front and rear or would it really matter? As far as the varmint rifle goes, I like to shoot ground hogs and such....I have property around Cambridge Ohio, as well as down here in West Virginia. For home use, I carry a Kimber .45 every where I go....I would hate to think that I need it and left it at home..... | ||
| Brian Goodner (Bluewater) Member Username: Bluewater Post Number: 102 Registered: 03-2003 |
http://www.northwestparts.com/lockers.htm those are some of the best lockers on the market. | ||
| Luke Tolson (Luke4696) Member Username: Luke4696 Post Number: 71 Registered: 06-2003 |
Kimber is a very nice gun (full size or compact?). You could put a locker on the back, but you might as well go all the way around the truck. ARB is popular, so it shouldn't be hard to find or get tech info on. -Luke | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 67 Registered: 05-2003 |
I thought if you locked the CDL, the front and rear tires wouldn't both spin. I have a '90 RR with the viscous coupling, so I'm not sure how the CDL works on a '97 Disco. | ||
| Brent (Silly_me) New Member Username: Silly_me Post Number: 30 Registered: 07-2003 |
I thought the 'low' range on the disco locked the diff. This is not correct? What's the power split running in four high under normal circumstances? | ||
| Perrone Ford (Perroneford) Member Username: Perroneford Post Number: 187 Registered: 02-2003 |
What part of WV are you in? I've got some kinfolk in that part of the country... | ||
| Robbie Donaldson (Robbie) Senior Member Username: Robbie Post Number: 421 Registered: 02-2002 |
"I thought the 'low' range on the disco locked the diff. This is not correct?" -not correct. you have high unlocked, low unlocked, high locked and low locked. must push the cdl lever over to the left and engage to lock it. there should be no power split, just a full 50/50 front/rear (as long as all tires have the same traction), but people have been arguing that on here for years. | ||
| Jaime Crusellas (Jaime) Member Username: Jaime Post Number: 63 Registered: 05-2003 |
The XPCs will float on a wet grassy hill. Just put on some All Terrain or Mud Terrain tires and you'll be fine. | ||
| Brent (Silly_me) New Member Username: Silly_me Post Number: 32 Registered: 07-2003 |
>>>not correct. you have high unlocked, low unlocked, high locked and low locked. must push the cdl lever over to the left and engage to lock it<<< What use is low unlocked? What are the speed limitations on high locked, low locked, and low unlocked? TIA | ||
| Michael Noe (Noee) Senior Member Username: Noee Post Number: 709 Registered: 03-2002 |
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/four-wheel-drive.htm Keep in mind there is an open differential in your tcase. Have fun  | ||
| Robbie Donaldson (Robbie) Senior Member Username: Robbie Post Number: 422 Registered: 02-2002 |
"What use is low unlocked?" real world application - last winter, during one of the snow/ice storms, was driving to work and came to a steep, curving, down hill that usually gets pretty icy and slick. Considering the whole thing wasn't a sheet of ice, locking up wouldn't be a good idea if I hit some solid pavement. So, put it in low/unlocked, and let the engine braking and manual braking slowly get me to the bottom of the hill without sliding into the mess of cars at the bottom. Then popped it into high, and off I went. | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 132 Registered: 04-2003 |
I am in Spencer WV, about 25 miles from Ripley (I77) or 25 Miles from Clendenin (I79). My Kimber is the Pro Carry Model, Full sized grip, with 4 inch barrel. Lockers, I have thought about that, around $1200 for front and rear, but then you have to add air either by compressor or via air tanks, $200 - $300 dollars more, so around $1500 total. After talking with my wife last night, she said I can't add anything to the Disco till I get some running boards so I thought Rovertym sliders with the Nerf bar, but I wonder if that would be enough to make her happy? Either way, she also said I have to sell my RoadMaster in or to start spending too much. | ||
| Brent (Silly_me) New Member Username: Silly_me Post Number: 34 Registered: 07-2003 |
That makes sense Robbie. I'm just coming from a truck without unlocked 4wd so running 4lo unlocked is a new experience for me | ||
| Brent (Silly_me) New Member Username: Silly_me Post Number: 35 Registered: 07-2003 |
Okay, one last rover newbie question: is there a limited slip in the rear diff? Also, what are the parameters for the low locked and unlocked as well as high locked? Max speeds etc. TIA | ||
| Robbie Donaldson (Robbie) Senior Member Username: Robbie Post Number: 423 Registered: 02-2002 |
nope, completely open front and rear. only drive in locked if you are off pavement on loose material (so that wheels can slip and not cause transmission wind up). not sure specific max speeds, but i would say no higher than 35 (absolute max) in low. high locked should be as fast as high unlocked, just be sure to be on the loose stuff. couldn't find any actual speeds documented in the manual, but that is probably a pretty good guess. oh, another use for low unlocked i thought of is heavy towing for short distances. | ||
| Brent (Silly_me) New Member Username: Silly_me Post Number: 36 Registered: 07-2003 |
Hmmm so completley open front and rear diffs.... I guess that is reason enough to go for the lockers Thanks! | ||
| Bruce Potier (Brucep) New Member Username: Brucep Post Number: 21 Registered: 06-2003 |
Brent, just watch your tach and listen to the engine/trans and you will know what top speed is for Low, both locked and unlocked. Simply a matter of a common sense approach. Another altenative to traction is TTs, but these will not lock-up until the wheels are spinning, so if rock crawling is largely what you do, go with a true locker. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 531 Registered: 11-2002 |
Uphill Braking might have helped. It tricks the diff into thinking that both wheels have traction, so it doesn't split it. |
