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Michael Noe (Noee)
Senior Member Username: Noee
Post Number: 715 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:08 pm: |
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Aren't some of you guys into Scouts? We found a 74 for ~$400 that runs pretty well, has a good frame, has a snow blade, springover and is basically a farm truck. We're looking to make it streetable around town and continue it's duties on the farm. Seems to just have high and low and I think it's a 4 speed. What else besides the normal stuff to look for? Any enthusiast web sites? Thanks, Mike |
   
Alen Babayan (Alen)
Member Username: Alen
Post Number: 49 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:14 pm: |
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Try muskyman (Thom Mathie) he knows alot about them. |
   
charles pastrano (Charles)
Senior Member Username: Charles
Post Number: 281 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 09:36 pm: |
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Good strong trucks. Had a 79. $400 for a working truck is a good buy. Parts are bitch to find. |
   
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Senior Member Username: Lrover94
Post Number: 992 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 10:20 pm: |
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if you have the time there is a fella in springfield, ohio who restores as well as sales parts for the old I-Hoppers i am not sure if he has a website. i have owned two and loved them both. the neat thing about the Scout was that they were not what one would consider an assembly line vehicle. they were not massed produced but were more of a speciality vehicle. at the time in the US its competitor was Jeep. IH put sturdier parts thus they were rock solid and very reliable. the motors in them weither it was the V8 or the 6cyl diesel were flawless. they had one draw back.....they rusted faster than a 63 chevy. if you have one that is running good then its worth the cash to restore it. i always wanted a 78 Scout. they had one that was a soft top with soft doors. i really liked the truck, best of luck. IMHO mike w |
   
thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 327 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 11:09 pm: |
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soft top and soft doors? such as this?
scouts are great trucks they are built from the best components money could buy. and contrary to popular belief the parts are very easy to get...almost 100% of the parts are currently being reproduced. the one you describe being spring over says that it has been modified ,scouts never came spring over axle stock. look close and make sure the SOA was done correctly. If it has a big Z bar drag link its a fatal accideant waiting to happen. also check and make sure that it has a dana 44 front axle as aposed to the dana 30. if the 4 speed is a wide ratio t-19 it alone is worth the $400 asking price in some circles. the place in ohio mentioned above is called super scout specialists they are a good source for parts. also check light line of loisiana, giddum up scout in CO. there is a great scout/IH area on the pirate and a huge network of scout/IH guys you can reach through the binder bullitin.com. many disco owners once owned scouts and for good reason . they share many commonalities and serve very similar off-road uses.
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Michael Noe (Noee)
Senior Member Username: Noee
Post Number: 716 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:37 am: |
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Hard top, hard doors. Can't remember about the drag link, but when I was up underneath it, you could see the flywheel, looked like the bellhousing was broken off on the bottom half. The front and rear axle cases appeared identical. The SO install looks good from first glance and was done to accomodate the snow plow up front, of which the blade frame has been welded directly to the chassis. I think the snow plow alone is probably worth $300. THanks for all the info. |
   
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Senior Member Username: Lrover94
Post Number: 993 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:39 am: |
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yea musky thats it, but as i remember the color was a tanish... mike w |
   
Mark & Bev Preston (Markp)
Member Username: Markp
Post Number: 217 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:58 pm: |
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$400 for a Scout is a good price. If it runs well it will probably be good for another 100K+ miles. If its a V8 its either a 304, 345 or 392. It's your basic IH engine for Scouts, school buses and city duty trucks. As for axles I think in 74 the front and rear were D44's. Jeep guys are always looking for Scouts to part out. Parts a easy to find. Here in Colorado every local parts house carries most of the higher volume parts like brakes, ignition and cooling. Just a couple of days ago I was in Checker/Kragan and the newbie parts guy asked what was the deal with all the Scouts. For a good start at teck talk and vendors go to http://www.binderbulletin.org/ . If your looking for custom fab go to http://www.dandcextreme.com/ Musky - Giddum-up-Scout went out of business. The buildings owner wanted to raise rent by 2X during the economic boom of the late 90's. Rod decided it was a good time to move on and sold most of his inventory to Line Light of Louisiana and Predator 4WD. As for the building it sat empty for years as the economy slowed down.
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Mark & Bev Preston (Markp)
Member Username: Markp
Post Number: 218 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 04:06 pm: |
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Forgot this - If your looking for used body parts call up Coonrods in Bailey Colorado. He's listed on the Binderbulletin web site. He bought an old deserted roadside motel and knocked out the walls between all the rooms. The rooms are loaded with parts and the main lobby is where he put in shelves to organize the parts he has stripped. If you want new body parts most of the IH/Scout vendors periodically get together and run a volume of parts to get to production run level pricing. They usually have what you need in stock. |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 957 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 04:21 pm: |
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Mark, jeep guys need not to look for Scout parts. |
   
Mark & Bev Preston (Markp)
Member Username: Markp
Post Number: 219 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 04:51 pm: |
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Peter - Here in Colorado they do - D44 axles and D300 tranfer cases. I believe the D44's F&R started in 74 with the D300 case in 1980, the last year for Scouts. |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 959 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:04 pm: |
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Mark, some jeeps had ~57" wide D44 f&r from 73 to 79, r from 62 to 79 and 86 to 91. |
   
Michael Noe (Noee)
Senior Member Username: Noee
Post Number: 717 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:11 pm: |
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Well, looks like we got it. I'm sort of the silent partner in this deal. My buddy will use it as his "git around" truck and I get to do the mechanicals (ha!) and use it off road. I think the engine is the 392 (BTW, that frickin' Binder Bulletin site is the tits) and looks like we got Dana 44s front and rear. First thing, I'm gonna have to get an new front DC drive shaft, engine and trans mounts, new steering rods (the springover was not really done well it turns out) and I think the water pump is gone, she overheats in about 3 minutes (haven't checked the thermostat yet, I guess that could be stuck closed). Brakes need some work too, but actually work better than it might appear. I can't thank ya'll enough for the leads on info, I think that Binder Bulletin site is a model for excellence. Who is this guy Bill Thebert? -Mike
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Ron Brown (Ron)
Senior Member Username: Ron
Post Number: 459 Registered: 04-2001
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:06 am: |
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They are tough. I had a 78 with a soft top Ron |