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Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
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Username: Glenn

Post Number: 706
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2425757105&categor y=6330

Only on eBay
 

Danno (Danno)
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Username: Danno

Post Number: 242
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

the 1st time i saw a Bio-diesel was on TV quite a few years ago. this old man had done it to his VW rabbit.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Post Number: 438
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Conversion? I heard that any diesel engine can be run on Bio-diesel. Is that not correct? I think the conversion guy is just out for a few environmental bucks.
 

Mike Hippert (Mikeh)
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Username: Mikeh

Post Number: 13
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Go to biodieselnow.com they have alot of info there. It is cleaner then dino diesel.
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
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Username: Jon

Post Number: 430
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.greasel.com provides filters and conversion kits to better run SVO - Standard Vegetable Oil. The guys at ECR told me that they had not run any of their Tdi conversions on SVO, but sounded like they'd heard of it. Don't remember the sound of a ringing endorsement.

The guys on CarTalk have been on about it for awhile as a perfect alternate fuel. You need a pre-heater (viscosity issues) or must use standard diesel to get the system warmed up, and then a switch to go from one to the other once this is achieved. Presently, you also shut the car down on standard diesel to prime for the next start-up.

"In 1898, when Rudolph Diesel first demonstrated his compression ignition engine at the World's Exhibition in Paris, he used peanut oil - the original biodiesel. Diesel believed biomass fuel to be viable alternative to the resource consuming steam engine. Vegetable oils were used in diesel engines until the 1920's when an alteration was made to the engine, enabling it to use a residue of petroleum - what is now known as diesel #2."

http://www.ybiofuels.org/bio_fuels/history_biofuels.html

San Francisco runs some of their bus line and utility trucks on bio-diesel which is effectively the same stuff as SVO.

e
 

David Caton (Catonincarolina)
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There is a guy in town here that has a VW converted to it. When ever he drives by smells like the McDonalds french fries. He gets the use oil from them to run off.
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
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Username: Glenn

Post Number: 707
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Wow... I've heard of Bio-diesels before but never thought of it being the same as the Mazola Cooking Oil that we have at home .

That is very interesting! Now I know the benefits of those 50 gallon jars of cooking oil at Costco!

Glenn
 

Ramsay (3toedsloth)
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Username: 3toedsloth

Post Number: 185
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So to kick a dying horse...

Biodiesel in it's current form is a combination of the traditional petroleum based diesel and some percentage of vegetable oil (most likely soy oil). By using the combination you don't have the viscosity issues of using 100% vegitable oil. For example, one of our stores sells B20 which is a mixture of 80% traditional diesel and 20% soy oil.

The Vegetable oil conversions generally use the heat of the engine block to preheat the oil. Thus, the necessity of using traditional petroleum based diesel (or even biodiesel) to start the car/truck.

Two different ballgames, but two excellent alternatives. Now, if I could just get my hands on a Tdi...

JR
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 441
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So, if you were to pre-heat the oil by say, cooking your breakfast, then by the time you'd finished eating you could start the truck? ( :-) )

Hmmm, unique excuse for being late for work...
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
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Username: Jon

Post Number: 431
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The site I posted yesterday has lots of good tips on gathering, filtering and storing SVO - I've been hooked on trying it for awhile now.

You can always run regular petro-diesel if you hate the process of using SVO - or jump in halfway with bio-diesel.

e
 

Joshua (Joshua)
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Username: Joshua

Post Number: 347
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just some more info

My best friend up in Maine rund B-100 ( bio deisel 100%) in he 2003 Jetta TDI. It takes no converting, and you can indded purchaseit by the gallon at a pump site in many areas. They are becomming more and more popular around teh country.
The only issue with Biodeisel is that in cold weather, it gells...hence, in the winter he needs to mix it, so its about 40% biodeisel and the rest regualr old deisel fuel.

But buying it at the pump is just the easy way to do it. You can puchase a still ( or cooker) that can cook regualar cooking oil, and by adding some chemicals you can end up with b100% and the by product is glycerine( soap) A 55 gallon drum in his work P/U truck ( toyota) and a small 12V powered pump, he has abunch of restaurants that are more than happy for him to come along and pump some old cooking oil. after all, they pay for disposal by weight in Maine.

another very cool thing about bio deisel, is you can have it deleivered in bulk to heat your house. This is extremely cheaper than paying at the pump, and you can also run your truck off the same stuff. Just go down to the basement, fill a jerry can up, and put it in your car or truck.

This buddy of mine has started getting many conmpanies to run b100 as long as they can ( untill it gets cold) up here in the New england area. His claim to fame, is a few months ago, getting LL BEAN to put in a pump on thier site in freeport and run everything in thier fleet that is deisel, on b100. Kinda cool in my mind

Now If I can just get my hands on a nice deisel disco, ill be a happy man

josh

ps..I can forward his address for anyone who is interested on more info, hes quite the guru around these areas on bio deisel
 

Alan Greening (Alan_g)
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Username: Alan_g

Post Number: 37
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you thin down old cooking oil down by a small amount (and straining a the bits of burnt food out) a diesel engine will run on it. There are a couple of drawbacks, the taxman takes a dim view on it as you are technically avoiding paying excise on fuel for vehicle use, also, diesel engines, especially modern ones, are designed to run on diesel fuel, which has special additives and the like to prevent waxing in cold weather, carbon build up and so on.
 

Mahn England (One_iota)
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Username: One_iota

Post Number: 6
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn the Taxman...

This is about using waste.

http://www.biodiesel.org.au/

I love the smell of fries in the morning!

And there is the debate about ethanol additives to gasoline....?

The juice is running out.
 

Shane (Shane)
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Username: Shane

Post Number: 69
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm building a D100 for Craig Reece that has a 300tdi that is going to run on SVO.
We've converted a few vehicles with a single tank system(mostly mercedes) that we've developed for his company "Neoteric Biofuels"
www.biofuels.ca

We hope to have the D100 finished in time to make it to the Nat. Rally in Sept.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 458
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just stumbled across this, interesting stuff:

http://www.geocities.com/pug_nut.geo/biodies.pdf

Well, it's not that 'interesting' but it explains a lot of stuff :-)
 

Richard Dekkard (Richard_dekkard)
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Username: Richard_dekkard

Post Number: 131
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

dont forget , that shiat will eat up your rubber hoses... need the kind thats a mix of rubber and other shiat...

arent I articulate tonight?

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