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Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 706 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:36 pm: |
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2425757105&categor y=6330 Only on eBay |
   
Danno (Danno)
Member Username: Danno
Post Number: 242 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:42 pm: |
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the 1st time i saw a Bio-diesel was on TV quite a few years ago. this old man had done it to his VW rabbit. |
   
Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 438 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:50 pm: |
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Conversion? I heard that any diesel engine can be run on Bio-diesel. Is that not correct? I think the conversion guy is just out for a few environmental bucks. |
   
Mike Hippert (Mikeh)
New Member Username: Mikeh
Post Number: 13 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:26 pm: |
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Go to biodieselnow.com they have alot of info there. It is cleaner then dino diesel. |
   
Erik Olson (Jon)
Senior Member Username: Jon
Post Number: 430 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:25 pm: |
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http://www.greasel.com provides filters and conversion kits to better run SVO - Standard Vegetable Oil. The guys at ECR told me that they had not run any of their Tdi conversions on SVO, but sounded like they'd heard of it. Don't remember the sound of a ringing endorsement. The guys on CarTalk have been on about it for awhile as a perfect alternate fuel. You need a pre-heater (viscosity issues) or must use standard diesel to get the system warmed up, and then a switch to go from one to the other once this is achieved. Presently, you also shut the car down on standard diesel to prime for the next start-up. "In 1898, when Rudolph Diesel first demonstrated his compression ignition engine at the World's Exhibition in Paris, he used peanut oil - the original biodiesel. Diesel believed biomass fuel to be viable alternative to the resource consuming steam engine. Vegetable oils were used in diesel engines until the 1920's when an alteration was made to the engine, enabling it to use a residue of petroleum - what is now known as diesel #2." http://www.ybiofuels.org/bio_fuels/history_biofuels.html San Francisco runs some of their bus line and utility trucks on bio-diesel which is effectively the same stuff as SVO. e |
   
David Caton (Catonincarolina)
Member Username: Catonincarolina
Post Number: 62 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:48 pm: |
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There is a guy in town here that has a VW converted to it. When ever he drives by smells like the McDonalds french fries. He gets the use oil from them to run off. |
   
Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 707 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:53 pm: |
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Wow... I've heard of Bio-diesels before but never thought of it being the same as the Mazola Cooking Oil that we have at home . That is very interesting! Now I know the benefits of those 50 gallon jars of cooking oil at Costco! Glenn |
   
Ramsay (3toedsloth)
Member Username: 3toedsloth
Post Number: 185 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:23 pm: |
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So to kick a dying horse... Biodiesel in it's current form is a combination of the traditional petroleum based diesel and some percentage of vegetable oil (most likely soy oil). By using the combination you don't have the viscosity issues of using 100% vegitable oil. For example, one of our stores sells B20 which is a mixture of 80% traditional diesel and 20% soy oil. The Vegetable oil conversions generally use the heat of the engine block to preheat the oil. Thus, the necessity of using traditional petroleum based diesel (or even biodiesel) to start the car/truck. Two different ballgames, but two excellent alternatives. Now, if I could just get my hands on a Tdi... JR |
   
Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 441 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:28 pm: |
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So, if you were to pre-heat the oil by say, cooking your breakfast, then by the time you'd finished eating you could start the truck? ( ) Hmmm, unique excuse for being late for work... |
   
Erik Olson (Jon)
Senior Member Username: Jon
Post Number: 431 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:08 am: |
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The site I posted yesterday has lots of good tips on gathering, filtering and storing SVO - I've been hooked on trying it for awhile now. You can always run regular petro-diesel if you hate the process of using SVO - or jump in halfway with bio-diesel. e |
   
Joshua (Joshua)
Senior Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 347 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:52 am: |
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Just some more info My best friend up in Maine rund B-100 ( bio deisel 100%) in he 2003 Jetta TDI. It takes no converting, and you can indded purchaseit by the gallon at a pump site in many areas. They are becomming more and more popular around teh country. The only issue with Biodeisel is that in cold weather, it gells...hence, in the winter he needs to mix it, so its about 40% biodeisel and the rest regualr old deisel fuel. But buying it at the pump is just the easy way to do it. You can puchase a still ( or cooker) that can cook regualar cooking oil, and by adding some chemicals you can end up with b100% and the by product is glycerine( soap) A 55 gallon drum in his work P/U truck ( toyota) and a small 12V powered pump, he has abunch of restaurants that are more than happy for him to come along and pump some old cooking oil. after all, they pay for disposal by weight in Maine. another very cool thing about bio deisel, is you can have it deleivered in bulk to heat your house. This is extremely cheaper than paying at the pump, and you can also run your truck off the same stuff. Just go down to the basement, fill a jerry can up, and put it in your car or truck. This buddy of mine has started getting many conmpanies to run b100 as long as they can ( untill it gets cold) up here in the New england area. His claim to fame, is a few months ago, getting LL BEAN to put in a pump on thier site in freeport and run everything in thier fleet that is deisel, on b100. Kinda cool in my mind Now If I can just get my hands on a nice deisel disco, ill be a happy man josh ps..I can forward his address for anyone who is interested on more info, hes quite the guru around these areas on bio deisel |
   
Alan Greening (Alan_g)
New Member Username: Alan_g
Post Number: 37 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:58 am: |
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If you thin down old cooking oil down by a small amount (and straining a the bits of burnt food out) a diesel engine will run on it. There are a couple of drawbacks, the taxman takes a dim view on it as you are technically avoiding paying excise on fuel for vehicle use, also, diesel engines, especially modern ones, are designed to run on diesel fuel, which has special additives and the like to prevent waxing in cold weather, carbon build up and so on. |
   
Mahn England (One_iota)
New Member Username: One_iota
Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:46 am: |
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Damn the Taxman... This is about using waste. http://www.biodiesel.org.au/ I love the smell of fries in the morning! And there is the debate about ethanol additives to gasoline....? The juice is running out.
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Shane (Shane)
Member Username: Shane
Post Number: 69 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:05 pm: |
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I'm building a D100 for Craig Reece that has a 300tdi that is going to run on SVO. We've converted a few vehicles with a single tank system(mostly mercedes) that we've developed for his company "Neoteric Biofuels" www.biofuels.ca We hope to have the D100 finished in time to make it to the Nat. Rally in Sept. |
   
Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 458 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:22 pm: |
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Just stumbled across this, interesting stuff: http://www.geocities.com/pug_nut.geo/biodies.pdf Well, it's not that 'interesting' but it explains a lot of stuff  |
   
Richard Dekkard (Richard_dekkard)
Member Username: Richard_dekkard
Post Number: 131 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:44 pm: |
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dont forget , that shiat will eat up your rubber hoses... need the kind thats a mix of rubber and other shiat... arent I articulate tonight? |