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Douglas McMillan (Mcmillan)
Member Username: Mcmillan
Post Number: 59 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 01:28 pm: |
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Has anyone used some high milage Dextron III oil in a manual gearbox to help stop leaks? If so what ones would you recommend? Or is this a bad idea? (I have a 94 Disco) |
   
Shaun Power (Shaunp)
Member Username: Shaunp
Post Number: 136 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 05:04 pm: |
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ATF in a manual box is a bad I idea full stop Land rover hasn't used it for years. What you need is a light GL4 gear oil. I'm not sure what you can get in the US, I use either Castrol syntrans 75/80,Valvolene dura gear 75/85, Penrite xtralight gearbox oil. ATF causes tooth contact and syncro wear. Don't use a normal GL5 80/90, if you do it wont change gears. LT77 and R380 boxes often leak from the gear shifter. The top of the box vibrates loose. www.penrite.com.au |
   
Douglas McMillan (Mcmillan)
Member Username: Mcmillan
Post Number: 61 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:49 pm: |
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The manual says use ATFIII for both a stick and auto transmission. What else would you recommend? Does anyone recommend something to stop leaks? |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 945 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:16 pm: |
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Use Redline MTL http://www.redlineoil.com/frames/gearoil.htm#Mtl others have had good luck with this apparently, but it will do nothing for leaks - it is just a better lubricant. Bill |
   
Shaun Power (Shaunp)
Member Username: Shaunp
Post Number: 139 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 03:55 am: |
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No one uses Atf in them anymore not even Landrover. In fact many of the LR work shops won't warrenty a rebuilt box if you use ATF. ATF causes syncro wear and tooth contact. Landrover still uses a version of this box and they don't put ATF in them. Caltex in Australia make a GL4 oil that is called Landrover gearbox oil (I think this may be texaco in the US). Where does it leak from. |
   
Douglas McMillan (Mcmillan)
Member Username: Mcmillan
Post Number: 63 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 02:39 pm: |
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The leak seems to be on top, somewhere on the rear of the unit where it joins the Transfer case. |
   
Shaun Power (Shaunp)
Member Username: Shaunp
Post Number: 142 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 08:54 pm: |
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I reckon the shifter has come loose. The gearbox top often vibrate loose or the seal at the bottom of the stick fails. |
   
Frode Hübertz Haaland (Discofrode)
Member Username: Discofrode
Post Number: 122 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:20 am: |
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If yours is an R380, you'd better stick to the Rover specced Caltex MTF94 (also called Rover MTF94 in some countries). THis is honey-coloured, and gives a far better shifting than when using what they recommended earlier years (pre servicebulletin 25.11.1998). |
   
Shaun Power (Shaunp)
Member Username: Shaunp
Post Number: 144 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:44 am: |
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Frode as I have already specified above this and other gl4 oils are suitable for both LT77 and r380 boxes I find Dura gear, Penrite xtralite and best of all Castrol syntrans to be the best. |
   
Douglas McMillan (Mcmillan)
Member Username: Mcmillan
Post Number: 64 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 02:23 pm: |
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GL4 is what is recommended in the diffs. Are you proposing that I can use the same in the manual gearbox? |
   
eric johnson (Eric2)
Member Username: Eric2
Post Number: 107 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 02:50 pm: |
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Sta-Lube makes a 85/90 GL-4. |
   
Shaun Power (Shaunp)
Member Username: Shaunp
Post Number: 150 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 04:22 am: |
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No Gl4 is the extreme pressure rating. 85/90 is to thick. What is needed is a Gl4 with a weight of 75w80. Too thick and they won't change gears. Valvoline sell one called Dura Gear 70/85 in OZ and this works well. Caltex make on called Landrover gearbox oil to the same spec. Castol syntrans is the best |