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Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 895 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:28 am: |
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So I was curious about if anyone knew how much it would cost to maintain a ferrari. Like the service and what they do in the services. In particular a 1998 F355 Spyder. I have heard it is thousands of dollers for service that has to be done very often. Can anyone shed some light on the topic for me, that would be awesome! |
   
Curtis N (Curtis)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis
Post Number: 618 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:39 am: |
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Chris, C'mon man. You are looking at a limited production car that is precision made. It will cost you an assload. This may be of little help, but I doubt you can find two owners of the same Ferrari that even have similar maintenance bills. The way to look at a question like this is: "If you have to ask..." Curtis |
   
Ron L (Ronl)
Member Username: Ronl
Post Number: 149 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:46 am: |
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98'...I bet it needs something major. Ron |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 937 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:01 am: |
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If you really want to know - contact Trevor Griffiths at Treasured Motor Cars (410-833-2329) - a friend who has a British and Italian shop nearby. He does lots of Ferrari's and Lambo's and probably could give a you a good idea. From spending time there - the maintenance costs are absolutely amazing and frequent. Pretty much if you have to ask, you can't afford it. Bill |
   
Tim (Snowman)
Senior Member Username: Snowman
Post Number: 531 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:14 am: |
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Chris- Check on insurance first, that will be an eye-opener I bet. Good luck! |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 897 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:52 am: |
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No i can afford it, thats no problem, I was really wanting to know. I had no clue at all. Bill I might give him a call, thanks. Chris |
   
Karl C. (Eurocarnut)
New Member Username: Eurocarnut
Post Number: 9 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:59 am: |
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Actually, insurance is not bad at all. Remember, insurance is based on the likelyhood of a claim, and there are very few Ferrari claims. Lot more expensive to insure a Corvette than a Ferrari. As for the maintenance, just figure on about $1.50/mile. The major service (all belts and valve adj. is about $4000+ on the 355) Add in the other maintenance issues and your probably at the $1.50 figure. That's just been my experience. |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Senior Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 279 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:02 am: |
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Did you win the Lotto? I didn't know they paid valet parkers that much, I need a job where you work :-) Just do it, get the Ferrari, wish I could.
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Tim (Snowman)
Senior Member Username: Snowman
Post Number: 533 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:13 am: |
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Alan- My exact thoughts. I also generally fall back on the excuse that I had the wrong parents. Of course if you park em' fast and do volume???....nevermind. |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 898 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:03 pm: |
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Tim don't worry I have the wrong parents. And the valet business is picking up very quickly. Karl what is your experence with Ferrari's? By the way its a 98 with 36k miles. Blue with tan...mmmmmmmm |
   
John Lee (Johnlee)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee
Post Number: 360 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:29 pm: |
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Speaking of Ferrari's, peep what Richard Dekkard ran into at the local gas station: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/snap-on/coming.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/snap-on/going.jpg
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Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 991 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:34 pm: |
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Chris, blue is a wrong color for a Ferrari, wait for the red one. Can I use your name to shop at Exotic Cars in La Jolla, CA? |
   
Sus (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 482 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:47 pm: |
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My ultimate car...other than a Rover....is the 456GT, in champagne with tan leather interior. Ok, so it's a four seater and I know that's not as COOL, but it's gorgeous. There is a red 360 Modena at our local Mercedes dealership and I liked it as well. But, alas, I will probably never own one. An 18 year old male in a Ferrari?! Whoa. Hope the insurance agent was sitting DOWN! Good luck man, and if you get one, PLEASE send pics. |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 899 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:58 pm: |
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You could use my name. But I didn't win the lottery or anything like that, well just found a crap load of money. Not sure, but i am thinking about puting it away and not spending it. I will have to learn stick better, thats for sure if I do get it. I can drive pretty much any car a short distance while valeting, but on the street, thats another story. Still not sure, its like winning the lottery, you don't know what to do with all of it. But I really want a 456GT, I love that car soo much, but its a lot of money. |
   
Sus (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 484 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:04 pm: |
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Maybe buy an older Ferrari that's not as expensive and put the rest into savings. You will enjoy it someday. Of course, the Ferrari's don't depreciate as fast as most cars, so you could enjoy it for a while and then re-sell it for the cash. Just be careful in it...so much power and so few open roads! ;) Oh, and tell me how I can 'find' a "crap load of money!!!!" Cheers! |
   
Greg (Gparrish)
Senior Member Username: Gparrish
Post Number: 1329 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:06 pm: |
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What exactly does "found a crap load of money" mean? Just curious........... |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 901 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:08 pm: |
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I was a drug runner for a drug cartel. |
   
Sus (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 485 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:11 pm: |
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Nice response! Ever seen "Blow?!" Man, if I wasn't chicken...I'd sell drugs....easier than working!  |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 902 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:13 pm: |
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never seen blow, looked pretty bad I thought and so I have heard that. |
   
Christopher Boese (Christopher)
Member Username: Christopher
Post Number: 134 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:15 pm: |
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Buy things that don't depreciate, then end up with a crap load of money that's growing all the time. Take it from someone who "invested" in vehicles instead of really investing. |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 321 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:20 pm: |
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if that's the case, then spend the money asap on the ferrari - no need to put it away for your future... |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 992 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:37 pm: |
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Chris, now or whenever you have a thick wad of c-notes in your hand, and you want to satisfy an urge for speed, buy a ~96 Carrera 4. You will not be disappointed, I promise. That bitch completely defies the _feeling_ of laws of physics. Clutch is stiff, but the engine's very forgiving. |
   
Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 904 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:43 pm: |
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Yea i don't like the porsche clutches, I have problems with those. I truthfuly like the F1 style transmission much better. But in all really how I got the money is that I inhearited a lot of stocks that have a large value so I could sell them and buy the ferrari or just keep them. I just found out recently about this. But the more I think about it the more I think it would be better to just save it and let it grow. But it is just really wierd for me now. |
   
Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 727 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 05:44 pm: |
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quote:I will have to learn stick better, thats for sure if I do get it.
Do yourself a favor, don't learn how to drive a stick in a Ferrari!!!! I don't care how much shit load that new found money is, it'll be gone!!!! Buy yourself a beater and learn how to drive a stick!!! Glenn |
   
Chu Y. Son (Cyson)
New Member Username: Cyson
Post Number: 39 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:50 pm: |
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According to C&D, the rotors for that Enzo in John's pics are $24000. And the pads are $7000. And the motor oil is something like $40/quart. At 12 quarts per change, that's a pretty nice little job for a Grease Monkey. So, I'd say the maintenance alone would eventually break the small Lotto winner. I'm sure the 355 is considerably less, since the engine alone on the Enzo is over $200k. |
   
Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 454 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 07:15 pm: |
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quote: I will have to learn stick better, thats for sure if I do get it. Screw the stick, get a 360 with F1 paddle shifters. My brother has had one for about 3 years. Last time I was back in England he took us to Rockingham Motor Speedway (the UK version) just before it officially opened. His club had a track day. A most excellent experience - absolutely stunning performance - and he's not afraid to throw it around either. 160 mph in air conditioned comfort, well, except for the full-face helmet Oh, in a Rover-like moment the central locking died shut and we had to climb out of the windows. I'm going over next week - I'll snap some pics. |
   
Tim (Snowman)
Senior Member Username: Snowman
Post Number: 537 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:19 pm: |
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Chris- I am happy for your good fortune. Invest wisely and certainly find a good financial adviser. Oh yeah, I would be more than happy to receive an e-mail describing your stock portfolio. Tim
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James P Groom (Jpg)
New Member Username: Jpg
Post Number: 21 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:31 pm: |
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Chris Try doing a search on yahoo for Ferrari 308 or 328. I was considering buying the Magnum P.I. version a few years back and found a web site that describes in detail some of the costs involved. This could give you a starting point for info on the F355. Jim Groom
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John Lee (Johnlee)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee
Post Number: 366 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:00 pm: |
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12 quarts of oil? That's bad ass.
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Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Senior Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 387 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:26 pm: |
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hmm thats $$ oil. Why could it be so expensive. I would hope that thing didnt leak |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 569 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:54 pm: |
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If oil quantity is bad ass then the 911 has it beat with 13 liters. I would agree with one of the previous posts. Get a carrera and pocket the extra cash. How come I can never just find a pile of money? Even a small pile will do. ;-) |
   
CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 905 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:12 am: |
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Gleen I learned on a WRX and M3. I have been working on profecting it with a friends geo prizim. Thats a beater! Tim if you would like I can send you the stocks, they are all power companies that were invested in. And that would be bad if it leaked like the rover has, losing 1/3rd of its oil in 1 hour of driving, ouch! |
   
gp (Garrett)
Senior Member Username: Garrett
Post Number: 2263 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:52 am: |
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i was at the Manheim Auto Auction yesterday and saw tons of Ferrari's. here is pic of one. i was in love with the car and the girl washing them.
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gp (Garrett)
Senior Member Username: Garrett
Post Number: 2264 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:58 am: |
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Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 729 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:42 pm: |
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Ferrari just doesn't seem right unless it's red. If I ever have the money to own one however, it would be any of the 60's GT. Anyone of them seems just fine but this particular '66 330GT on eBay is giving me serious wood. I can almost here that V12!!!! Glenn |
   
CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 909 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:03 pm: |
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Glenn here is what I want... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2428142423&categor y=6212 or http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2427329663&categor y=6212 (note the rover in the backround) the one I am talking about is like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2427677597&categor y=6212 except that it has 19 inch 2 piece multi-spoke rims (not quite bling bling) |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Senior Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 280 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:20 pm: |
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I usually like Ferrari's in red too, but that blue one looks really kick ass. |
   
Sus (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 487 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:22 pm: |
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Oooh, I love that '66! I agree Glenn, that may be the one to have! |
   
CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 910 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:56 pm: |
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yea and then put a tubi exhust on it. I have driven a few ferrari's and I had a 355 with a tubi. WOW is all i can say. |
   
Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Senior Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 389 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:31 pm: |
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<--rather have a D-90 with the 2.8 powerstroke |
   
CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 911 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:38 pm: |
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I am getting a D90 in some months phillip |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 572 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:12 pm: |
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Hey Chris that crap load of money that you "found" was mine. Would you please return it to it rightful owner, I would be very appreciative. Please see my profile for my paypal info. |
   
Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Senior Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 390 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:54 pm: |
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awesome |
   
Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Member Username: Rover_puppy
Post Number: 157 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 09:17 pm: |
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For sure I'd go with the D90. I keep telling myself that if I learn to drive off road really really good - then I can earn myself a D90? Don't get me wrong, I luv my D2 and we are both growing together in our skills. However, when I have been around D90s, I have felt like I was driving a baby buggy on bunny hills. Someday, I really HOPE to have an older rover. I think they look even better banged up from trails, they have so much character!! |
   
Chris Nuzum (Cnuzum)
New Member Username: Cnuzum
Post Number: 29 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:18 pm: |
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well, when your finished with it, I;ll take your Disco off your hands. Chris |
   
Tim (Snowman)
Senior Member Username: Snowman
Post Number: 540 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:14 pm: |
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Chris- If you could send me the stocks that would be great. I am far from a big invester, but just curious. You mentioned a possible D-90 purchase, I looked at this today and it was very nice! http://rutlandmotorcars.com/britishcars/2193.htm It did need a good buffing of the paint but was very clean and the low mileage is nice. |
   
Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Senior Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 392 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:44 pm: |
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30k at best |
   
CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 915 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:53 pm: |
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I want a 97, I perfer to have an auto. Tim you just curious on what i got and such? |
   
Matt Milbrandt (95discovery)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: 95discovery
Post Number: 152 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 08:39 am: |
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355 is an excellent car. As far as service goes it is totally relative on where you go. You said that you were moving to Cincinnati; there are some excellent Ferrari mechanics here. I have done some work on late model Ferraris...F50, Enzo, F40. Things are just so hard to get at lots of times, and most people don't take the time to put it all back together correctly. For example, when I did the cam belts in the F40 you have to take out the seats and do all the engine work from through the interior. And everything has a special fastener holding on some odd panel. These are the kinds of things careless mechanics do not take the time to put back correctly. You will get into it and it will be full of hardware store fasteners and then you have no idea how to do it right, even in you do order the right ones from Ferrari at $4 a screw. If you do need parts Algar in Philly is who I have always dealt with and they do a great job. As far as which model to get, I wouldn't get a stick regardless. I would something with the F1 package, 355 or 360. In my opinion the 360 would be a better investment in the short run. Not that the 355 is going to go down or anything, but the 360 is hot right now. I just got back from Pebble Beach where I saw 6 Enzos, about 100 360s, and about 50 355s. There was a 360 Modena that went through the auction, it got bid up to $135 and didn't sell. Either way I can put you in touch with a couple brokers that could point you in the right direction. That is helpful just because you can set your price and they will make sure you get a good car. The Enzo stuff starts to sound even more expensive when you find out that under hard braking pads last 500 miles and the carbon fiber rotors last 1000 miles. And the oil is so expensive because they use Agip and I don't know anyplace in the US that retails it, but I really haven't looked. http://www.mistymountainrover.com/360_matt_disco Matt |
   
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
Senior Member Username: Jsq
Post Number: 436 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 02:05 pm: |
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That F355 is probably due for a timing belt and that is one of the pricier services. of course despite John's link if you get a Ferrari I'm afraid you'll need to make the switch to Facom tools as they are what the Ferrari team, Michael Schumacher and myself and a few other dwebbers use. http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?L1=L1_2000&L2=L2_2010&SKU=FER129 unfortunately my modest collection is not yet as extensive as the F1 set. don't get me wrong, Snap-On is an excellent tool, this just happens to be my personal choice.
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Mike Carino (Mikec)
Member Username: Mikec
Post Number: 106 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 01:27 pm: |
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Chris, look at the 360 Challange Stradale. A good mix between the road and the challange car. the ultimate weapon. Matt, Ferrari doesn't use Agip anymore. They are tight with Shell now and Shell has developed a special oil for just the Enzo, hence the high price. Mike |
   
Matt Milbrandt (95discovery)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: 95discovery
Post Number: 153 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:07 pm: |
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The Stradale has the same carbon fiber brakes that the Enzo has and hence you will incur the same cost. Mike you are right. I remember seeing the Shell stuff in the 360 manual. I don't know why I thought the Enzo was the same as the F50. I will look in the Enzo manual on Monday. Matt |
   
Mike Carino (Mikec)
Member Username: Mikec
Post Number: 107 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:22 pm: |
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Hey Matt, I just saw that. Odd that the challenge cars use a conventional braking system and the Stradale uses the more high tech ccm system. One would think the ccm would be more appropriate for the track/challenge than the road that a Stradale will do. I wonder if they will switch the challenge cars over next model year? |
   
CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 929 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 03:42 pm: |
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Matt you own a few Ferrari's? Is there anything fun to do in cincy, I am now here for school and i hope there is. |
   
Matt Milbrandt (95discovery)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: 95discovery
Post Number: 154 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:59 pm: |
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Ohh God no I don't own any Ferrari's, especially nothing like those. Maybe a 328 somewhere in the distant future, but there are a lot of others things I would do first if I had the money. As far as what there is to do around here...hope you like to drink. Matt |
   
CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member Username: Gumarcel
Post Number: 930 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:38 pm: |
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well i am only 18.....so   |
   
Greg Hirst (Gregh)
Senior Member Username: Gregh
Post Number: 287 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 02:06 am: |
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How about a donation to Dweb from your windfall?  |