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retro78
| | Posted on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 11:20 pm: | 
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Ok guys,
I know Atlantic Britsh carries a kit to replace the air suspension on 4.0/4.6 RR's but does anyone else have a kit. Their kit comes with their own coils which add no lift at all. I would like to add in some OME coils and shocks for some added lift. Does anyone have a mild 2" lift on there 4.0/4.6? Any pic's?
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AlanB
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 09:54 am: |
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Motorcarsltd also has a conversion kit:
http://www.motorcarsltd.com/specials/range-rover-air-suspension-kits.htm
I don't think it has any lift, the kit cost $995. I too would like a kit with a mild lift to put some bigger tires and get more ground clearance. You could contact Atlantic British and Motorcarsltd and ask them if they can provide taller springs. I am just waiting for my EAS to fail so I can convert and not worry about EAS failures when out on the trail.
Keep us up to date on what you find. |
94Rover
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:05 pm: |
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Springs are springs guys. Buy the kit minus the springs, then shop around 4 the best deal on springs.
94Rover |
retro78
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:09 pm: |
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I have talked to Atlantic British and they say no one makes springs for it. Will any springs fit? Sorry but I don't have alot of experiece with this. I to am waiting for my EAS to fail. I have a '95 4.o so im sure its on it last legs ;) Thanks Though |
retro78
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:17 pm: |
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You know one thing that pisses me off about these kits is the price. They are about $600 mor ethan the classic kit. I seriously doubt that the extra parts included with the 4.0/4.6 kit add up to $600. I think its a rip off and you can't make me feel better by saying that they are cheaper than getting the EAS system fixed. They are just taking advantage of that because they are greedy. just my .02 |
94Rover
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:40 pm: |
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?- No one makes springs for it? Again coil springs are coil springs- nothing special about them being applied to a p38a(4.0-4.6)RR- |
94Rover
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:46 pm: |
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Another interesting thing about Atlantic British is, If they don't sell it, they refuse to offer advice about it- in other words they aren't going to to tell you to go out and buy the springs seperate from their kit....thats why you should purchase the conversion hardware from Rovers North and get the coil springs elsewhere...like maybe British Pacific, etc...... |
retro78
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 03:29 pm: |
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That makes sense. I called Atlantic British just now and he said the kit without springs is going ot be about $600 or $650. I guess that's not horrible but still about $300 more than the Classic kit. Oh Well 
Thanks |
retro78
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 03:32 pm: |
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What springs would you guys recommend. I would be looking for a 2" lift or maybe 3". I would want it to be at least as tall as the high mode I have now whihc I believe is 1.75" above normal. Just a guess. Just want to get it jacked up and go run over a Miata ;-) |
94Rover
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 07:35 pm: |
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Just go with the OEM HD's, thats the Land Rover Genuine Heavy Duty- Not OME HD's or Old Man Emu HD's, you don't want to compromise the purpose of the extended mode by riding high all the time...too many computer gizmo's on the p38a RR, a.k.a the 4.0/4.6 Range Rover. Check for wear on your u-joints front and rear, and inspect your drive shaft.... Contact John Robison @ http://www.robisonservice.com/ he can give you supporting advice to my suggestions....
94Rover |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 08:43 pm: |
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94, what's in the enigmatic "kit"???
just curious... |
94Rover
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 11:52 pm: |
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"94, what's in the enigmatic "kit"???
just curious..."
What? |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 11:39 am: |
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all this talk about the "kit" - just wondering what's in it that makes it so expensive....what's it take to convert from EAS to simple coils? |
retro78
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:12 pm: |
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What Atlantic British told me is that sense the 4.0/4.6 was designed for air suspension they had to develop and manufacture there own parts to convert it to coil. He said a few other sites sell their conversion kit and but they are the only ones that make it. I hope as the prices come down on the 4.0/4.6 more people will take them off road and in turn more companies will design kits for them to lower costs for us comsumers. Only time will tell though. |
PerroneFord
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:35 pm: |
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They have GOT to be kidding... I've never known AB to "manufacture" anything. If it's true, this will be a first.
-P |
john
| | Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 01:16 am: |
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I too asked about the AB conversion kit. I asked what height their springs were sitting at(ie. normal, extended?) They said they were close to "normal". When I inquired about taller springs they said they tried to use taller springs but that they couldn't get them to work with their "kit". So, I am waiting for some other company to make the kit I want. |
Bob
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 08:59 pm: |
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I am in the process of getting my first Range Rover it is a 93 LWB of course it is sitting very low it seems the EAS is on the fritz. There fore I am probably going to convert it to the aftermarket kit from AB. Has anyone here in NY ever use any other mechanics beside the Land Rover dealer. I am not sure of my current mechanic is qualified to do this conversion but it doesnt seem to complicated. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
94Rover
| | Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 10:07 am: |
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Bob, any mechanic compentent enough to put shocks and springs on a vehicle, should be able to pull the air springs on your 93, and put coil springs in place. The conversion kit from A.B includes the coversion hardware(coil spring retainers that mount where the air springs are located), and thats all you have to buy(the hardware). The conversion hardware is around $100.00, and you can shop around for better prices on the springs. A.B sales the EAS conversion kit with standard springs, and you'll probably be a tad bit happier with OME(Old Man Emu) Medium duty rated springs. The best thing to do is ask your mechanic if he feels comfortable doing this, without implying that its NASA complicated, and converting springs is something that is over his head. If he has a serious garage and is not a weekend mechanic he can set up a wholesale account with A.B, and probably get some savings on Land Rover parts, and probably pass the savings on to you.
First thing you need to figure out is if the EAS system is really gone south. If you haven't purchased the Rover yet, give it another once over. If the EAS, up-lock-down controls are displaying a fault(this is when one of these three controls, or two or all are illuminated) then there is a problem with the system. If its blinking on start up and the light display stops blinking and the vehicle raises up to standard height, then the system is fine. Get the v.i.n number from the Rover and call your/a L.R dealership and ask for a vehicle history report(may be a small fee, if not offer to pay one. You can usually befriend someone at the parts counter, and they will be more than happy to assist you.)
Anyway, if the Rover appears low, it may because the owner parked it and lowered it way below access height as it awaits sale. I used to do this with my Rangie whenever I would leave it sitting for more than a couple of days. I don't miss the EAS system at all- I put a total of $2,200 in repairs before I decided to convert to coils...... |
Bob
| | Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 08:44 pm: |
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Thanks a million for all the info. Unfortunately as I hunt for those not so popular cars I came across this one at a wholesale lot I know it was sold at auction to this lot and I really think they dont know jack about this car. Still contemplating this purchase. Thanks again. |
94Rover
| | Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 11:48 pm: |
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Bob,
bookmark this site-
http://www.rangerovers.net |
trevorgriffiths
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 12:19 am: |
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Just wanted to answer the question about what is in an Atlantic British 4.0/4.6 coil conversion kit. Besides the obvious springs and mounting hardware, revised bump stops for all 4 corners above the axle, and resistors that plug into the ride height sensor harnesses are also included. With out the resistors, a warning message EAS FAULT DO NOT EXCEED 35 MPH would be permanently displayed, covering the mileage and trip meter displays. The conversion requires reprogramming of the BeCM to accept the readings of the resistors. I believe only Autologic can do this, the dealer's Testbook does not have an 'edit' feature necessary to perform this function. Atlantic British can tell you what shops in your area have Autologic.
By the way I have Autologic and I am near Baltimore!
Trevor Griffiths
Treasured Motorcar Services
Reisterstown, Maryland |
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