Help! I am about to buy an F250

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Author Message   Ron Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:48 am:    Please stop me. Ron   Craig Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:26 am:    Ok Ron- I'll stop you- Buy the GMC Sierra HD Craig   RVR OVR (Tom) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:57 am:    yes, go vortec. tom   Ron Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:16 am:    Yes we get a deal on the F250, no deal on the GMC. And the F250 has a better tranny (6 speed ZF) Is it wrong to tow ALL your rovers places? Ron   PerroneFord Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:20 am:    Better tranny? Better than the allison? -P   Ron Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:49 am:    Autos are not real trannies Ron   JMcD Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 06:56 am:    I am not at all ashamed of my GMC, kinda hard to haul 12foot lumber in the disco. As far as the F250 goes, if you must buy a Ford, at least consider getting the 1 ton. F350's are way better IMHO. Good Luck Ron. JMcD   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 07:30 am:    Nothin' wrong with owning a Big Man Truck. F350 4 door diesel 4x4 long bed. Do it man!   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 08:29 am:    go with a dually!! and go with vertical exhaust stacks!! ps: white letters out of course.   KJ Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 09:36 am:    Oh god, now I have to go out and check the lettering on our Dually's tires! gp, you're putting baaaaaad images in my mind! And Ron, old 454's rule. Karen   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 09:50 am:    yeah i was at Pep Boys yesterday and was tempted to pic up some kick ass fake etched glass stickers.......Rubn's Racn' and some nice naked lady profiles like those on truck mud flaps. they would fit with my white letter look nicely. but you need a nice bug shield with a really creative name on it for your dually. and lots of lights above the windshield, your names printed about the door handles and maybe.....just maybe a cool "How's your Peter Built?" sticker on the back.   Bill Bettridge (Billb) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 10:05 am:    Just do it Ron!! The more you think about it, the worse the decision gets -have had three consectutive F250's and now a 350, all without problems! (gave up on GM after too many problems - pretty sad bacause I used to be a GM guy)) Bill   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 10:56 am:    Get the Ford Ron , very smart move....... You can tow quite a few broken down GMs with that.... Kyle   Ron A Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 11:24 am:    Been driving Ford trucks for years so when I bent my last one I shopped around until I found a F350 Crew 4x4 LB V10 that I liked. The day before I was supposed to pick it up my wife talked me into going down to the "Chevy" dealer. Well I agreed to look at a GMC as a comparison. I ended up driving home with a ’02 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crew 4x4 LB with Vortec 8100 (rat motor) and Allison trans. I still like Ford trucks but have put at least one trans in everyone I’ve owned. The GMC is stronger, definitely more comfortable inside and hopefully more reliable than my Fords. I bought this truck specifically to tow my RR. Best line I’ve heard about this truck was from John Lee: “damn this is a white boys truck isn’t it” Ron A BTW, I only paid $1000 more than I would have for the Ford.   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:15 pm:    this ’02 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crew 4x4 LB with Vortec 8100 (rat motor) and Allison trans smoked my disco LOL LOL LOL LOL   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:03 pm:    why not get a nice dodge? rd   Ron A Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:22 pm:    Ho, I'll give you a rolling start next time (grin) Ron A   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:25 pm:    just make sure that whatever you do is get some of those sweet Subaru Brat rear bed seats and swap them in the new truck. those are just plain rad!! i especially love the "oh shit" handles!!   Kevin Reading Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:06 pm:    Here it is, plain and simple: If you need a truck to do work, get a Ford. If you want a pretty truck that isn't really expected to do anything, get a GMC   kjljk Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:09 pm:    Get the 250 solid axles   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:15 pm:    Man Truck   Kevin Reading Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:50 pm:    Besides, what kind of real truck has a steerable rear axle that's expected to carry weight also? Another GM gimmick.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 02:52 pm:    4 wheel steering lets Mom navigate the parking garages at the mall   Bill Bettridge (Billb) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 03:10 pm:    Don't forget the "cool" factor too - the GM trucks all have that low rider thing going on..... Bill   alhang Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 03:18 pm:    i don't know the kind of deal you're getting on the ford(guessing the wife's discount is awesome) but my friend got a Dodge 2500 SLT 4x4 quad cab, Cummins, tow package, uprated springs, Auto, almost all options except for leather, for under 32K with taxes, titles, and fees. He really couldn't afford a CTD but as a joke he posted the price he could afford on autobytel and a local autobytel dealer said they could special order him one. He waited 2 months and had the truck he wanted. It was his first internet car buying experience and it went very smoothly. I have pics of the truck if you're interested. I also like the axles on the dodge better, I think the dodge has dana 60Front/80 rear whereas the ford has a 50front (maybe going to 60)/ and sterling rear?   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 03:55 pm:    Oh damn Ron , A GM???????????? Did you get an MRI of that mellon after the crash ? I think maybe Ho needs to come and take you back for another one. I aint even gonna bother asking you my standard question (Did you bump you head?) cause I know you took some knocks in the accident. Ho ?? Get that man some medical attention !!! God damn GMs....... Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 04:21 pm:    medical attention? LOL LOL LOL he's pimp daddy now. LOL   Ron Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 08:47 pm:    Dodge does not make a crew cab and well I would like a suburban as this is what I am used to (my family has had them since 1972) but a crew cab 2wd XLT F250 SB V10 6 speed is only going to be like 25k plus tax, 0% interest where as a sub is way more. Ron PS the ford auto trans is crap PPS I would get the F350 if I got a 4x4 but in 2wd it just makes the rear really high. PPPS F350 is D60/D80 with DRW with SRW you get D60/Sterling rear F250 4wd you only get D50 front   LR Max Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 09:37 pm:    Go GMC. My old 88 1500 Sierra is three times the truck my disco AND my series put together. It accelerates better, gets better gas mileage, and I is in the shop 1/10 of the time my disco is. In general, anything BUT a rover is a great truck. The only thing that my rovers can do that my GMC can't, is go play in the mud ;). Since it is 2WD, it is a street truck. It hauls, it tows, it goes anywhere on the pavement. But the second I want to go off the beaten path, I switch trucks. Go ahead, do it. Max T. P.S. I want all of you to know that right now all of my British cars don't work, and my GM motor vehicles are standing strong. This opinion is extremely biased just because I am pissed off that none of my Rovers work, and the Uhwarrie Safari is in 3 days!!! Rant Mode off   Ron Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:37 am:    LOL yup that was my thought. A truck that will actually run a majority of the time. WHAT A CONCEPT! My father's truck is a 1998 1500 sub with 120k on it. The ONLY problem with it in 120k, a leaking diff seal. On a rover you are lucky if the only problem with the diff is a leaking seal! Ron   Kevin Reading Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 08:08 am:    1991 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat 4x4 351, 4-speed automatic 211,427 original miles Burns 1/4-qt. of oil every 2000 miles or so. Other than that, no leaks, no squeaks, and ready to go another 200,000 miles   Mel A. Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 08:09 am:    We had a 1996 Yukon with the 5700 Vortec in it, and it proved to be very reliable. I think we had 92000 miles when we sold it with almost no problems (mechanically). Great trucks for hauling and towing stuff. Never owned a Ford, but my next door neighbor, who owns a ranch, says that the Ford Super Duty w/ a Powerstroke engine is the best in the market for towing/hauling/ranch work.   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 08:46 am:    The UPS Truck is an option, and I hear chicks dig it. Well at least NASCAR chicks.....   gp (Garrett) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 09:02 am:      gp (Garrett) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 09:04 am:    delivery for ms. johnson.   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 10:37 am:    I think I know that guy. His last name is Korinko... Kyle   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:10 pm:    anyone know who manufactures the ups trucks? i've always wondered rd   Ron A Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:34 pm:    >Oh damn Ron , A GM???????????? Did you get an MRI of that mellon after the crash ? HAAA, Yea Kyle everytime I see a F350 Crew I get a little misty (LOL). But I'm getting old and my butt just can't take that buckboard ride in the Ford's anymore. You're really gonna think I slipped a gear when I tell you about the super slinky suspension and 7" of lift on the RR. (Haaaaa Haaaaa) Ron A   gp (Garrett) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 01:01 pm:    i will ask my driver when he gets here in an hour or so. for some reason i thought Grumman use to make them. they are too 'fancy' for Grumman i think.   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 01:06 pm:    Ford Motors..... Used to be the 300 6cyl in em... Kyle   Jon Williams (Jonw) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 01:08 pm:    Package cars used to be on Ford chassis, powered by Ford's 2-bbl. 300 6-cyl. Then for a while they were on GM chassis. Don't know who the chassis maker is now... I tend to guess Freightliner, because of the TRW steering and Cummins 5.9 Diesels they use. But I agree, too fancy for a Grumman-Olson body In my area, at least.   Ron A Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 01:28 pm:    All the Brown trucks in my area are GM chassis w/ the 6.5L diesel.. Hummer engine (HMMMMMM) Ron A   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 02:11 pm:    Ron , you just keep that tune playing in your head as you are driving along. "It walks down stairs ,alone or in pairs , and makes a slinkety sound , a thing! , A thing! , a marvelous thing! , everyone knows its slinky......... " Kyle   gp (Garrett) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 03:03 pm:    just checked the owners card in the UPS truck that just came buy. it was a 1988 GMC. didn't feel like popin' the hood though. he was on his 3rd engine in 300K. they just turned a truck in that had just over 1 million on it. they are pretty much all aluminum and fiberglass. he said they cost about 50-60K each.   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 03:21 pm:    www.discoweb.org/slinky.wav Kyle   Ron A Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 03:51 pm:    HHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I hooked up the Harman/kardon speakers to my computer and played ‘slinky’ so everyone could hear. I drive a GM truck and a slinky LR, maybe I have gone over to the dark side. If in the future you see pictures of me being towed by the milk truck or that skinny little yellow bird truck with it’s skinny little bird legs, I’ll start listening about the no-flexy set up. LOL LOL LOL… Ron A   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 03:59 pm:    yeah, big hahaha!!! ron man, dont' speak too soon. you never know who'll tow who!!! LOL   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 04:11 pm:    Well Ron , dont feel bad. We got the original right here.... http://www.discoweb.org/heather/index.htm Kyle   gp (Garrett) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 04:18 pm:    is that heather singing it? i'm blushing.   Ron A Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 04:20 pm:    Ho, my wife wouldn't let me go to the Hammers without the 'bird truck' or the 'milk truck' there to pull my broken ass off the rocks. I really do like the new tires (although it does make it a little tougher to cut the pizza now).LOL Ron A   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 04:27 pm:    hammers? who's going to the hammers? certainly not me! LOL gp, i am not sure who's singing it... could be heather afterall.   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 04:27 pm:    best reason to get the ford superduty is the you can still buy $G shit for it! rd interesting about the ups truck. would be a great camper... rd   Heather Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 04:30 pm:    OMG!!!!! Garrett your blushing??? no no,, I'M blushing, cuz you think that's me singing that awful song :D, and the worst part is it won't stop,,, over and over,,, Kyle and Ho are relentless and in the words of Umit "they will suffer from me",,, believe me!!! lol   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 04:40 pm:    what i do?   gp (Garrett) Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 07:44 pm:    nah. wasn't thinking that at all. more likely it was kyle himself back before his voice changed!! haha. you know......like 5 years ago.   Heather Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 10:37 am:    lol, garrett that thought scares me ...   Heather Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 10:38 am:    Ho,,,, oh you know damn right!!,,, you kick my dog!!!   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 12:36 pm:    This is for you Ron.   Brian Baker (Doubleb) Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 12:52 pm:    The new ups trucks are Internationals   Rich Chabot Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 03:40 pm:    Over-the-road trucks, yes. They have been for some time.