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BJ Turner (Wturner)
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Username: Wturner

Post Number: 211
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I know there is supposed to be some electronic POS that tells me that my pads need replacing, but just like about EVERYTHING else on this pile of JUNK that doesn't work either, so I end up knowing when they are grinding metal to metal.

Does anyone sell pads with regular sqeek sensors, so I can stop ruining rotors?
 

Jack Parker (Jack)
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Username: Jack

Post Number: 183
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't think anyone makes pads with electronic sensors. Some GM products used to have a tab that would start to chirp as the pads wore down.

But, there is a device called a lug wrench, and you can remove a wheel on your pile of junk every 5,000~10,000 miles and inspect them yourself. Or, when you have your tires rotated you could look at them.

Waiting for a "sensor" to keep you from ruining rotors is like adding or checking your oil only after the "oil" light comes on.

 

Bill Ross (Billr)
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Username: Billr

Post Number: 90
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So the truck is a pile of junk, when you let the brakes wear down to metal-to-metal contact? You might want to start considering an alternative transportation method, like walking. Of course, shoes wear out too; but then again, at least your toes would indicate excessive wear.

Jeez, where do these people come from?
 

Eric Pena (Evalp)
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Username: Evalp

Post Number: 615
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I dont know of any sensor in the brakes to tell you they are low. Maybe I am wrong. I know other cars that have them, like Jaguar, but a Discovery doesn't, Maybe that is why its not working, it dosen't exist.

Why not check them before you ruin something, thats part of owning a vehicle. Even if you are too lazy to do it yourself bring it to a shop, some brake shops even do it for free, I mean come on man!
 

BJ Turner (Wturner)
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Username: Wturner

Post Number: 217
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well according to Motorcars LTD, 1997 was the year they began using electronic sensors on the calipers to detect wear. I have heard it elsewhere as well.

I know how to check them with that fancy lug wrench, but thanks for the GREAT advice. I am a full-time engineering student with a part-time job, and plenty of bars and parties to go to, sorry I don't take my car apart every week to jackoff on the camshaft, but I don't have the time, and I don't think about it.

I was asking about brake pads with sensors, a simple "They don't make them." would have done the trick.

If I had a nickle for every sarcastic smart-ass reply on this site I'd have a lear jet on stand by 24-7.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member
Username: Pmatusov

Post Number: 994
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Eric and Jack, Range Rovers had brake pads with wear sensors for years. FWIW, the pads fit D1 calipers as well (don't pin me to the wall here), so BJ can break out a soldering iron, a few feet of 16GA wire, and a little 2W light bulb, and have a really nifty feature that was deleted on Discos (that are sort of cheap-ass range rovers).

BJ, you don't even need to pull the wheel to see if the pads are gone.
 

Eric Pena (Evalp)
Senior Member
Username: Evalp

Post Number: 625
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If the pads have electronic senors, it would have 2 wires running out of the pad with a connection. Yes you could rig something.

It is simple to check the pads. It's not droping the transmision or replacing the main engine seal. Just get down with a flash light and stick your finger in there and look at them, with the wheel on. It does'nt even require a tool.
 

Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member
Username: Bri

Post Number: 575
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Better start thinking about it BJ or it will continue to cost you $$$. Go 10 minutes late to one of your stupid parties, but check your brake pads. The only thing it will cost you is possibly a dirty hand and a couple of minutes and it will save you a bundle. Even replacing the pads can be done in less time than it takes to drive to a mechanic.
 

Craig (Cabzjam1)
New Member
Username: Cabzjam1

Post Number: 39
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Bri Is this:

The only thing it will cost you is possibly a dirty hand and a couple of minutes and it will save you a bundle.

The same as this?

sorry I don't take my car apart every week to jackoff on the camshaft.

Damn kids!
 

bluesman (Hywy61)
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Username: Hywy61

Post Number: 60
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If I had a nickel for every dumbass that causes himself an unecessary repair job on these vehicles I WOULD HAVE A FLEET OR ROVERS. Basic maintenance dude......ride a bike
 

Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member
Username: Bri

Post Number: 577
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Craig, I read that, pretty insulting really. Tried to ignore it. But I think you are correct, I had some rather funny similarities.
 

Brian J. Rohan (Rover_wannabe)
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Username: Rover_wannabe

Post Number: 81
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

In case everyone else has missed it, BJ did say he was an engineering sudent, and from the looks of it, he is about to graduate. Most engineers (especially just out of school) LOVE to make things alot more difficult than necessary, hence the wanting another set of wires, a light, and hell lets throw in a fuse AND a relay to let us know if the pads are getting low, instead of just taking a few seconds and feeling the brake pads. I am now going to assume that BJ would be the first to complain if something went wrong with the newfangled sensor and would comment about how some other stupid engineer didn't do it right, and how he would make it better, like then adding sensors on all the pads instead of just one (BTW I just changed my pads, and one rear pad came with the sensor in it, I just cut the wire off, for those engineers out there who would normally spend hours trying to figure out what is going on).

FWIW I am a long time machinist, and have seen alot of stupid things engineers do just to get their rocks off and prove to everyone just how complex they can make the simplest things.

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