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BJ Turner (Wturner)
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Username: Wturner

Post Number: 213
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 04:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just moved to an apartment complex that gives LAN internet service. Before I had cable internet that I had to pay for. When I had that my computer worked great, and fast. Now it is slower even than any dial-up that I have ever seen.

My roommate's computer works great and fast. He also lived with me before when we had cable. He and I both just plugged in and changed nothing. He has home XP, and I have Pro XP. I have tried on his port in his room and got the same results.

The only difference I can see is on the 'Network Connections' under the 'Local Area Connection' setting his speed is 100 Mbps, mine is 10 Mbps. Also under 'Network Connections' he has only the 'Local Area Connection', while I have that and a '1394 Connection' using "1394 Net Adapter" that is enabled with a speed of 400 Mbps but zero "packets" are transfering under activity.

I really hope this makes since to someone, and you can tell me how to change that 10 Mbps to 100 Mbps.

Thanks

BJ

P.S. This is why I am doing Mechanical Engineering rather than Electrical Engineering, I HATE COMPUTERS!!!!!!!!!
 

Discosaurus (Jurassicdisco)
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Username: Jurassicdisco

Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 05:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If no one here can help you might try this site http://www.speedguide.net/
 

Michael Noe (Noee)
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Username: Noee

Post Number: 725
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 06:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You might shitcan the firewire net card and put a PCI fast ethernet net card in and see what happens. I could be wrong here, but I don't think a firewire net card will get you 100Mbps.

Do you have an assigned IP address or do they have a DHCP server set up? CHeck your DNS setup too.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
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Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1507
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The firewire card should have nothing to do with his LAN connection. Try forcing your LAN connection to 100 Mbps Full Duplex and see if that helps. Windows being what it is you might need a reboot after doing that. Your NIC may not want to auto negotiate with your apt's switch/hub and defaulting to 10 Mbps half duplex.

Your firewire "1394 Net Adapter" is as much a NIC as your LPT1 port is.
 

Perrone Ford (Perroneford)
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Username: Perroneford

Post Number: 195
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Al,

You're right, but cruising the internet at 10MBs Half Duplex would still be 5x faster than a T1. I suspect he's got a different problem.

BJ, can you share files back and forth pretty fast with your roomate? If so, I'd suspect the problem is downstream from you. Probably a DNS issue left over from where you had cable modem.

Oh and BJ, I was an ME major who switched to CompSci. We hate what we don't understand.

 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Username: Alan

Post Number: 723
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

BJ - your network card may not be rated to go 100 Mbps. If it's a newer computer, it should though. You'll know because when you try to switch it to 100Mbps, it either won't give it to you as an option or you'll lose your connection entirely but that is the reason why you're so much slower than your roomates computer. If you can, go "100Mbps Full Duplex".

To change that setting:

right-click on the "My Computer" icon on your desktop, select "Properties", then go to the "Hardware" tab, select "Device Manager". Find the Network Adapters icon, open the tree up, right click on the network card. Select the "Advanced" tab, choose "Line Speed/Duplex" on on the right field box, find "100 Full Mode". That should do the trick to change your NIC's speed. If that doesn't work, then chances your NIC isn't rated for that speed and you need to get one that does.

Hope that helps.
 

Kobayashi (Koby)
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Username: Koby

Post Number: 487
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think either he needs to update his driver for the NIC or he needs to ditch the firewire NIC for a PCI NIC.

10 Mbit is still faster than 1.5 Mbit internet access.

Also might want to try a "ipconfig /renew all" if he's running DHCP

 

Sean Arney (Seana)
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Username: Seana

Post Number: 43
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just to elaborate on that, Koby has a good suggestion, first try typing "ipconfig /new" at a DOS prompt. Then I think your best bet is to reset the NIC as Alan said, then reboot. If that doesn't do it, see if you can get to the router and reset it or if theres any hubs in between reset those too. Im no network guru, but mine does bog down (DSL) once in a while inexplicably - thats what I do and it seems to work. Maybe P or one of these guys knows why they seem to bog after a while...

 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
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Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1508
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've seen plenty of computers setup in conflict of the switch they were going to where one was falling back to 10 half-duplex and the other at 100 FD. While 10 HD is still very fast, if both sides aren't talking the same he'll get plenty of collisions and that would cause piss poor performance if he's even able to get to the outside world.

Koby, what are you talking about when you say "he needs to ditch the firewire NIC for a PCI NIC."? Sounds like he has a NIC AND a 1394 Firewire port. One should have nothing to do with the other.

BJ, under where you see "Local Area Connection" what else do you have? Something like "Enabled" and the name of your NIC. What NIC do you have?
 

Eric Ratermann (Ericrat)
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Username: Ericrat

Post Number: 52
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

They are right about the speed and duplex thing.

Your description screams duplex mismatch.

Right click on My network places,
Right click an Local Area connection, select properties.
Click configure, then find the advanced tab.

The setting for my nic is "media type" yours may be labeled differently. Look for a speed setting (10 Mbs or 100 Mbs) and half and full duplex.

I am betting you need to be set at 100Mbs and HALF duplex.

You can try full too.

Let us know how that works out.
 

BJ Turner (Wturner)
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Username: Wturner

Post Number: 215
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nothing works??

Also, now some remote NT authority is randomly shutting my computer down, this is happening to my roommates too.

It does not happen if we pull the 10base-T out of the wall, so it must be the service provider.
 

Discosaurus (Jurassicdisco)
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Username: Jurassicdisco

Post Number: 3
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have XP Pro with the nic incorporated into the motherboard (NVIDIA) and under the speed/duplex settings it shows “full autonegotiation” if that helps.
 

Discosaurus (Jurassicdisco)
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Username: Jurassicdisco

Post Number: 4
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

>Also, now some remote NT authority is randomly shutting my computer down, this is happening to my roommates too.<

You have the msblast worm.
http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blaster.worm.html
 

Eric Pena (Evalp)
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Username: Evalp

Post Number: 617
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

BJ, you and your roommate sounds like you have the 'worm'. go to the above link to get more info and download the patch to fix. Start there.
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Username: Alan

Post Number: 724
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yup, sounds like you have that worm from teh link above. I've already had to clean several clients' machines for this worm.

Make sure your XP updates are all up to snuff and run that virus tool. It should clean things up afterwards but as far as your speed issue goes, it still sounds like your NIC is set too low or isn't capable of running at 100 Mbps.

Do the updates and virus fix first.
 

Kobayashi (Koby)
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Username: Koby

Post Number: 490
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Whoops-

Misread the NIC / firewire deal.

Anyhow, my other advice still stands.

drivers and ipconfig
 

BJ Turner (Wturner)
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Username: Wturner

Post Number: 216
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well the worm fix seems to have worked for the both of us!!

I also did a much needed windows update (I went about a 1.5 months without any internet service at all), and now it is considerably faster.

Thanks for all the help
 

Eric Pena (Evalp)
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Username: Evalp

Post Number: 623
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There ya go!!

 

RVR OVR (Tom)
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Username: Tom

Post Number: 809
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Do yourself a favor. Spend 30 bucks and get a firewall (typically sold as "broadband routers"). Considering your apartment is already wired, you should probably each get one instead of reinventing that wheel. It will help in blocking future threats that spread on their own through little used networking ports.

Connect it to your LAN port in your room, then to your computer. It should work with the building's network without issues.

Tom

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