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Jeff (Priest)
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Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have been thinking about buying a Discovery 2
But I just wanted to know what you all think about the power output of these engines.
Do you think it could or should have more then 188hp. I know the new ones have 217 but even the torque seems abit shy considering the displacement of the engine.

Just looking for some feedback. Thanks

Jeff.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
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Post Number: 1509
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jeff, Why not start by telling us what you want out of your truck?

188 - 217 hp is fine given that these trucks are as aerodynamic as a brick. They're not made for high speed runs. Not to mention the engine can be traced back over 30 years. HP isn't everything.
 

Jeff (Priest)
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Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well...
I want a vehicle that will perform in a lot of
different areas. Off Road.. climbing or towing
something, or on the freeway. I would like it to
be a good utility vehicle. I absolutely love the
way they look. I like the fact that they are the
only "I hate to say SUV" that was actually
created to go off road. I know horsepower isnt everything is this arena. Im just used to sports
cars that can easily get twice the hp out of a V6. So it just kinda makes me wonder. Thats all.
I just dont want to buy something that is going
struggle at 85 on the freeway if Im driving for
a while, say going to a camping site or some
destination..

By the way... What year do you have ?
 

Jeff (Priest)
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Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh.. buy the way. I see all these photos of guys
drivin through door high water and I wonder, can
you do that with a stock Discovery? Or do you
have to buy some kind of special mods? Is that ok
for the exhaust system?
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
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Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a 1999 D2. 85mph is about the max for me on this vehicle. And I don't mind the 188hp at all and I come also come from more sport oriented cars. (250hp I-6 and 290hp V8)
 

colin astley (Cra_arc)
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

jeff
if you want more power there is a multitude of mods for these engines available, r.p.i. engineering in the uk make monster v8`s out of these , as it is a very old engine , i believe originally a buick design. there are firms all over who can tweak them. but as al says discos are not really about speed and to be honest 70 -80 mph is good enough for most people to cruise at. in a 4x4, its what you can do with it, and lets face it 30 mph of road can seem pretty damn fast.
 

Jeff (Priest)
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Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah.. I saw some your pictures in the photo
gallery... looks like your havin a really good
time.
 

Eric Olsen (Eric_olsen)
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jeff, I have a 2000 DII. I do not mind the 188 HP, It has plenty of power to take you were you want to go offroad. I put in 4.11 gears so my top speed is around 80mph. You can go through deep water in a stock Disco. I know it is risky, but I have never had a problem going as deep as the hood.

 

Jeff (Priest)
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Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Wow.. really??
That is so cool.. I think thats what I really
want. I vehicle that is as flexible as a Jeep,
but with better build quality and finish.
I guess its the adventurer in us all.
 

Jason Edward Booth Barnes Blood (Onejasonblood)
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Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a 99 jag xjr with 400 horses that gives me no trouble. My 97 disco se does and is slow. STILL ILOVE the disco. This is a utility vehicle that, with proper suspension and tyres will be absolutely safe on road and pull whatever, wherever. You will grow accustomed to it. Try a series for real lack of h.p. But I will lay money on the fact that quick or slow you wouldn't trade it for a lexus v6 EVER
 

June H. Han (Junehhan)
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've got an 03 with 217hp and 300lb-ft of torque. I too come from a history of very fast vehicles
SVT Cobra(320hp)
SVT Lightning (380hp, 450 torque)
Honda S2000(240hp)


If you need some power, get an 03. The new 4.6 litre V8 is incredibly torquey(relatively) and makes it worth getting an 03 by itself. Don't ask me why, but situations at the time necessitated me cruising at 110mph, and it not only got there effortlessly, but felt very solid and right at home at that speed as well. I believe top speed is governed at right around 112mph though. I wouldnt recommend driving that fast, but it didn't seem to struggle to maintain those felonious speeds. Either way you go, these Discoveries are almost your ultimate utility vehicles built and designed to do nearly anything.
 

Jeff (Priest)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

To June Han.

Thank you very much for your response...Thats exactly what I needed to hear. I understand that the Disco is a utility vehicle. Hell, thats what I want it for. I have other cars if I want or need to drive fast. I have no dought that it will do any and all I could ask it to do off road. I just wanted to make sure it wasnt going to max out at 80mph or so. Living in Californias Bay Area people drive very fast on the freeway and I just wanted to make sure I would be able to feel secure at those freeway speeds. Obviously offroad, speed is hardly a concern.

Thanks again.
Jeff.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
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Post Number: 1514
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Keep in mind that the '03 has it's limitations and if you want to off road with your Disco and want a 4.6 you should wait for the 2004. In my book the CDL shouldn't even be an option. You may not regret getting a 4.0 with CDL but if you wheel you will regret a 4.6 without the CDL. Yes, you can still get lots of wheeling done in a non-CDL D2 but why put up with it?
 

Jeff (Priest)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

AL,

What do you think the limitations of the 03 are?

Jeff.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
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Post Number: 1515
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No CDL and if you want one you need to replace either the entire transfer case or the housing. At least that's the case for the NAS 2003's. It can be fixed but at cost. The 2004's should be out soon so why bother unless you already have a 2003.
 

Bill Collett (Bcollett)
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Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have an 03 and I would definitley wait for the 04's to come out, just because of the CDL. I have also heard that power chips are now avialable for D2'S.
 

Jeff (Priest)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Im kinda new to this whole thing...
Do I assume CDL means Center Differential Lock?

I see on Land Rovers site there is something on the Discos called a locking torque converter. What exactly is that?

Jeff.
 

Jeff (Priest)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks everyone for your input

Jeff
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
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Post Number: 1001
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jeff, nearly all modern vehicles with automatics have lock-up torque convertors (I don't know of any that does not). It makes transmission a bit more efficient on the highway.

As far as speed is concerned - I've had no problems with my 96 D1 at sustained 90mph (measured by GPS, not speedo). The same speed feels slow in a long wheelbase range rover.

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