| Author | Message | ||
     Thomas Skowronek (Thomas) New Member Username: Thomas Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2003 |
I am getting ready to purchase a 3” lift from Rovertym. The kit comes with Rancho shocks, but I have heard that people have had problems with them. Specifically, tightening them down and the lager eyes. How do the OME shocks compare to Rancho and would I be better off going with OME? Thanks, Thomas | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 518 Registered: 02-2002 |
Don't waste your money and just buy OME the first time around. | ||
| Mark Devereux (Groupw) Member Username: Groupw Post Number: 77 Registered: 12-2002 |
First off, I'd think twice about RTE 3 inch springs. I've gone through 2 sets - replaced on warranty. They will be 2 inchers before the year is out if you load them up. Also, Ive used OME and Rancho shocks on my D1. My observations are: Rancho offers more lengths and configurations. The Rancho's control body sway better - especially loaded. Depending on the model, the Rancho's are adjustable. At equal milages,(about 40K) the rancho's are in better shape functionally than the OME's thy replaced. If you do break a rancho shock, you can replace it almost anywhere. It seems that you will break your Rancho's if you don't change your rear shock mounts. Mine are modified for eyes top and bottom - no problem for 40K miles. I've seen them break regularly with stock, and RTE mounts. As always, your results may vary. | ||
| Robb Sundmaker (Robb) Member Username: Robb Post Number: 80 Registered: 03-2002 |
"If you do break a rancho shock, you can replace it almost anywhere." What do you mean by this? I have got two bad Ranchos in the rear of my D1 and when I called RTE they said since they were a year old Rancho would not give me new ones for free. Where can I go to get swap out the bad ones? | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 449 Registered: 03-2002 |
"If you do break a rancho shock, you can replace it almost anywhere." i read this to mean that there are more rancho outlets where you can *buy* a replacement than outlets where you can buy an OME replacement, not that if you break it they will replace it for free... imho mike | ||
| Robb Sundmaker (Robb) Member Username: Robb Post Number: 81 Registered: 03-2002 |
Mark, One other question, I have the RTE rear upper shock mounts. You mentioned to not use the RTE or stock mounts. What did you use to modify mounts for eyes top and bottom? Where did you buy the mounts? Thanks for the help. | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) New Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 22 Registered: 08-2003 |
Thomas, If you haven't talked to Steve at Rovertym, then I suggest you do. They're a very customer friendly company and they stand by thier work. I'm sure Steve would be happy to answer any of your questions, he has answered all of mine in the past. Thanks, Matt | ||
| Mark Devereux (Groupw) Member Username: Groupw Post Number: 79 Registered: 12-2002 |
Rob, I think Matt's suggestion is great. Talk to Rovertym before you do anything. They are very willing to work with you. Also, I was just looking at their website - looks to me that they have re-designed their mounts. Finally, I have to say that I'm sorry that I forgot to mention the poor rancho warranty in my original post. One year is a little weak. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1849 Registered: 02-2002 |
Tom, There have been and will be arguments about which is better, lasts longer, or whatever. Obviously you have your mind made up on RTE, which in my opinion makes great sliders and bumpers.  I have heard good and bad about the RTE / Rancho combination in many threads past. (Hint: see archives). I recommend you read here: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ome/indexsprings.htm Towards the bottom of the page there are some pics of different Disco's with different set-ups. FWIW, I have a complete OME 3" kit sitting in the garage right now for the Pig. When I get done with driveshaft fun, I am going to install it. Paul | ||
| Thomas Skowronek (Thomas) New Member Username: Thomas Post Number: 5 Registered: 07-2003 |
Gentleman, Thanks for all the feedback. I have talked to Steve at Rovertym and he said I would need ABS extensions. He pointed me towards disco2owners on Yahoo Groups to get the extensions where I found Dave Lucas. While I was searching Dave, I started coming across quite a few posts regarding problems with the Rancho shocks. That’s what got me second guessing my decision to go with the Rancho, which are part of the Rovertym 3” lift kit. Now seeing all the posts regarding the sagging Rovertym springs, I am wondering if I would be safer going with OME springs and shocks from Expedition Exchange. By the way Dave has been very helpful and responsive. My new extensions just arrived today. Thomas | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 525 Registered: 02-2002 |
You think sagging springs are a problem? http://www.d-90.com/discus/messages/46/2057.jpg http://www.d-90.com/discus/messages/46/2058.jpg http://www.d-90.com/discus/messages/46/2083.jpg Neither brake line extensions nor ABS sensor extensions with the EE 3" OME lift are needed. OME Springs, OME shocks, EE spacers. It really is that simple. | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1548 Registered: 04-2002 |
Koby, based on what you just said I take it that the 3" OME lift won't give as much down travel. | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 463 Registered: 03-2002 |
it is not so much the lift as it is the shocks...at least for a DII the 107 and 108 nitrochargers are only one inch longer, so your down travel will be limited to only one inch longer than stock and that really does not tax your abs or brake line limits. that being said, in anticipation of being able to find shocks in the future will better suit DII articulation, i went ahead and bought rovertym braided ss brake lines and the abs extensions from dave lucas. man...if i just disconnect my shocks now, i can have a few feet of wheel drop! i know i am not koby, al...but hell, i figured 2 cents are pretty cheap. even if i charge 5 bucks for 'em... ;) mike | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 528 Registered: 02-2002 |
Al, sure they won't. OME springs don't break.  | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1549 Registered: 04-2002 |
Mike, when I said OME lift it was in refence to Koby's comment on the OME Spring, shock, and spacer comment. I understand that drop is mostly limited by the shock on the OME setup. But on my D2 with SLS Spacers and OME shocks I can over extend the stock ABS and brake lines. Just something to keep an eye on. But in your case with the extensions you should be fine | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 464 Registered: 03-2002 |
yeah, al...with 1500 posts, i figured you knew... ;) i just thought i would throw it out there since it seems like there are a lot of shock and lift posts these days. it would be nice to see ome expand their line of shocks since real world users are getting more than 1.5 inches of lift out of their springs. but until then...i sit here with untapped potential in my abs and brake lines. mike | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Senior Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 322 Registered: 08-2002 |
How do I contact Dave Lucas, I need ABS extentions. TIA. -Chris | ||
| Joe M. (Little_joe) Member Username: Little_joe Post Number: 159 Registered: 11-2002 |
"OME springs don't break." Nor do they flex. joe | ||
| Phil (Discoanywhere) Member Username: Discoanywhere Post Number: 67 Registered: 06-2003 |
Sounds like Rovertym springs are softer? Allowing more articulation and lift. OME HD set up stiffer Allowing for heavier loads and lift. The shocks you use can limit your drop but the stiffer springs would also affect the articulation especially if your not loaded down with a little weight. ...sound right? What about www.northwestparts.com Green Monster Springs? They seem to be a little softer then OME but have not heard much about them compared to Rovertym.. BTW.. Got my body lift from Rovertym! Now I'm shopping for a 2" suspension lift and might go with NWP Green Monsters?? | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 470 Registered: 03-2002 |
dave_lucas@comcast.net | ||
| Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 535 Registered: 02-2002 |
Flex is the holy grail of the Ramper and Fork-lifter. My OME lift does just fine for me on the trail. | ||
| Ron L (Ronl) Member Username: Ronl Post Number: 157 Registered: 11-2002 |
"Nor do they flex."  | ||
| Thomas Skowronek (Thomas) New Member Username: Thomas Post Number: 6 Registered: 07-2003 |
Mike, Have you considered adding a drop kit to increase down travel? Safari Gard offers a kit to add 4" of extra drop, but I am not sure if it works on the D2. By the way, I noticed Rovertym updated their site with new springs. http://www.rovertym.com/springs.htm Thomas | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 473 Registered: 03-2002 |
thomas... i have a few other things on my "go" list before i start tweeking the springy stuff...but as soon as i finish those, i am sure the bug will bite again and i will start looking for the next evolution! | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Senior Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 323 Registered: 08-2002 |
Thanks Mike -Chris | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 474 Registered: 03-2002 |
sure, chris... no problem... |
