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Michael G. Duckworth (Hampton_89rr)
New Member Username: Hampton_89rr
Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 11:37 am: |
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I have a 89 RRC that is like a train to stop. It will stop, however I do not even think I could get the wheels to lock up if I tried. The foot peddle is firm and I have done a master cylinder reservoir repair (it was leaking at the bushings) and bleed all lines. Does the 89 RRC have generally a hard time stopping or any ideas for first place to troubleshoot? Thanks for your help. |
   
steve herrod (Sherrod)
Member Username: Sherrod
Post Number: 49 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 11:42 am: |
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what kind of brake pads do you have? |
   
Randall Smith (Mr_smith)
Member Username: Mr_smith
Post Number: 53 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 05:31 pm: |
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Michael From your post it seems like this poor stopping is a recent development. My RRC has a braking system almost identical to yours, and I have never thought it needed better brakes. Sorry I can't help more, but you should have excellent braking if all is working correctly. Randall |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 822 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 05:41 pm: |
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i'm guessing all his calipers are siezed. he previosly only had one or two working and now they gave up. that's my only guess rd |
   
Greg Hirst (Gregh)
Senior Member Username: Gregh
Post Number: 284 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 06:16 pm: |
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Check your power brake vacuum boost to see if working correctly. If OK, then are you using carbon fiber/kevlar pads? |
   
Jeffrey DelVecchio (Jeffreydv)
Member Username: Jeffreydv
Post Number: 48 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 06:52 pm: |
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My truck does the same thing. It is a bit hard to stop but I have gotten used to it. My vacuum booster makes a "whoooshing" when you stand next to it while the truck is running. I am pretty sure it is leaking. Jeff |
   
Michael G. Duckworth (Hampton_89rr)
New Member Username: Hampton_89rr
Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 07:38 pm: |
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I am not sure what brake pads are on it. I have had the RR since Feb. and have only made sure pads were okay. The braking was similar to the way it is now since I purchased it. I will check the vacuum booster and hoses for leaks first. If okay, I will then investigate the calipers. Thanks for the suggestions. |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 1000 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 08:16 pm: |
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Is '89 ABS? If so - is your ABS pump running - if not, you've only got hydraulic force going to one set of pistons on front calipers only - no rear at all and 50% on front. Bill |
   
Greg Hirst (Gregh)
Senior Member Username: Gregh
Post Number: 285 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 09:35 pm: |
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Bill-No ABS on 89's. |
   
Nicholas (Landrovernick)
New Member Username: Landrovernick
Post Number: 7 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 01:10 am: |
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You also need to realize that an 89 classic is a heavy vehicle. It will never stop like a small suv or car. Meanwhile it should not feel as if the rover stops only because there is some friction on each wheel. The 89's dont have abs, I have and 89 classic and I have only had the wheels lock up maybe once or twice, even then I was darn near standing on the pedal. I live in Las Vegas and when it rains the roads get super slippery due to the oil on the roads even then I have never had the wheels lock up. I would say get everything checked out, make sure nothing is amiss, and if everything is as it should be just get used to the feel of trying to slow down a miniture tank. |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 827 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:37 am: |
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i can lock mine up any day of the week if i'm not carefull. there is too much brake and not enough it takes some learing but i love it compared to the ABS dice roll i had in my disco. rd
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Tony Brooks (Abrooks)
New Member Username: Abrooks
Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 10:20 am: |
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Check your calipers, the seals may well have deteriorated. Replacing mine with new loaded ones (check autopartsgiant) made a world of difference along with a complete flush of the system. |
   
Mark D. Mathews (Mdm)
New Member Username: Mdm
Post Number: 24 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:05 pm: |
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My 89 seems to have the same problem. I replaced the calipers. How do you check the brake booster? I could not stop the truck when I had a trailer on it. I had to use the emrgency brake. It was probably 10,000 lbs ,but it should be able to stop. |
   
Randall Smith (Mr_smith)
Member Username: Mr_smith
Post Number: 56 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:41 pm: |
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how to test your brakes: Put a trailer with 10,000 lbs on your hitch and drive down the biggest mountain you can find. Make sure that it is one of those mountains with the emergency truck exits. |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 744 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:45 am: |
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recently have had new DBA rotors with LR pads and a new master brake booster installed. as RD has mentioned, there is way too much brake if you're not careful. the brakes are incredible. my RR fully loaded (and thats alot of stuff) stops in a very controlled manner and now without any fade no matter how long the decent. can't help you with solving the problem, however, your brakes should work much better than they are now. |
   
Mark D. Mathews (Mdm)
New Member Username: Mdm
Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 08:49 am: |
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I was not on the road with the trailer. I use a 1 ton GMC for that. I was going about 1 mph in a driveway on a slight decline with the transfer case in low and I could not stop with both feet on the brake pedal. Does anyone know how to check the brake booster? |