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James Newman (Lr_disco_i)
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

How do I check the oil level in my trasfer case? Its weeping a little and I just want to top it up :-) So, how do I top it up as well? Maybe someone has some pics or diagrams?

Thanks very much,
James

I am sorry if this is covered elsewhere I had a look and could not find anything, but that does not mean there isn't anything :-)
 

Tony Zuniga (Tony23007)
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Post Number: 175
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok you have a dipstick on the right side of the car by the rear of the main engine. This dipstick sometimes is hard to read, it's got two little dots that tell you where you fluid level is at. If you need to top it off, add Transmission fluid with the aid of a funnel through the small opening where the dipstick came from, make sure you read your manual on when to check it and never over fill. I believe you car has to be warmed up for a few minutes then shut off for you to check the level also the car needs to be on level ground.
 

Mark Devereux (Groupw)
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Post Number: 82
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

To check the transfer case, follow the same procedure you would for a differential. You have to locate the fill plug on the back of the transfer case, remove it, then add oil until it runs out of the hole. You've checked and filled in one fell swoop.
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
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Post Number: 2477
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tony,

So, what would the transmission fluid level have to do with the transfer case?




James,

There is a drain plug, and a fill plug, on the transfer case. Leave the drain plug alone. Remove the fill plug. Fluid should be right to the top of the plug. If not, add fluid to bring it up so that it just starts to weep out through the fill plug hole. Then replace the plug.

Good luck,


-L

 

James Newman (Lr_disco_i)
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The funny thing is I checked the manual and it does not cover checking the transfer cases or the diffs. I know this may seem strange but I've never checked either before. But I want to check now because I want to be able to still have a transfer case when I can afford for the leak to be fixed :-)



Thanks for your help.

James
 

James Newman (Lr_disco_i)
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok, this is where i got to... I think I found the input but I want to make sure.... There is one on the bottom that requires some kind of square tool to remove it... I believe this to be the output... The input looks exactly the same but on the back, level with the center of the parking brake shoes/rear drive shaft... Is this my holy grail? (I thought it would be closer to the top) And what kind of tool do you use to remove it?? Is there any prep for putting it back after? If anyone has pictures of the location just to make sure it would be fantastic :-)

James
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
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Post Number: 766
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

James,

That's it. Just use the 1/2" drive wrench without a socket, it will fit perfectly. If its a tight fit (like on the D2) use a breaker bar.
 

James Newman (Lr_disco_i)
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 02:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok i'm off to the tool store tomorrow :-) could someone get back to me on my other questions while I get the 1/2" drive?? (Please)

Thanks very much... not sure if it helps but its a 98 D1 :-)
 

Dave (Plain2000dii)
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rule #1 on transmissiom and transfer case fluid checks.. ALWAYS remove the fill plug before even trying the drain plug. An empty case with no way to refill makes for a lousy day in the garage.
 

James Newman (Lr_disco_i)
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

But did I find the right hole for filling??
 

James Newman (Lr_disco_i)
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok... this is where I am...

Went to sears bought a torque wrench because I wanted to do the job right... Then got home to find the torque values are in NM.... next day.. took torque wrench back and bought new torque wrench but had to settle foe 3/8" to get accurate enough... so i bought a small converter... So I just got under the car and found that a standard torque wrench wont fit becuause of the parking brake hose... and with the small extender or converter it wont fit cos of the drum.... please could someone help me find the right tool config for a D1 transfer case filler nut un do.... do I really need to worry about torque for this job?

Thanks very much :-)

James
 

Kobayashi (Koby)
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Username: Koby

Post Number: 530
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

James-

Perhaps I'm reading your posts incorrectly, and if I am, I apologize, but I see three fundamental problems with your last post.

"please could someone help me find the right tool config for a D1 transfer case filler nut un do"

First, you never use a torque wrench to undo anything. If you're removing a stuck bolt or fastener, a breaker bar with a socket will do. Once broken free, a ratcheting socket driver will do a great job of further removing the bolt / fastener. Dean sounds like he's had some experience. Just don't use the torque wrench to break a stuck bolt free.

"Went to sears bought a torque wrench because I wanted to do the job right... Then got home to find the torque values are in NM...."

Second, most torque wrenches will provide metric (Nm) and standard (Ft. Lbs) measurements. On the Craftsman it's simply a matter of looking at the other side of the handle.

"bought new torque wrench but had to settle foe 3/8" to get accurate enough... so i bought a small converter... "

Third, (some confirmation on this would be helpful), you should never use an adapter on a torque wrench when you're torquing down bolts.
 

Alex Schubow (Alex)
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

an extension on a torque wrench won't change the accuracy of the reading. something that extends it sideways, such as a crowfoot wrench will. most torque wrenches come with a little paperwork that gives you a formula to calculate the actual torque based on the length of the [sideways] extension.
 

James Newman (Lr_disco_i)
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Post Number: 87
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok maybe i posted incorrectly... I was not using a torque wrench to undo I was using a ratchet with a 3/8 to 1/2 converter... the converter made it too long, now if I buy a 1/2 ratchet it wont be long enough get into the hole because of the brake drum pipe... and if I buy an extension for a 1/2" then it wont fit because of the gap is too small between the bolt and the brake drum.. Is a breaker bar designed differently so it will fit? I have never used one before (or know what one looks like).. and this is the first time doing anything more than checking the fluids in the engine bay and tweeking the a/c nipples....

The problem with the 1/2" torque wrench I bought was that it would not go down to the required 30Nm to tighten it back up... but now I think about it the 3/8" wont work with a converter(like you said) wont work because of the ratio change.

Sorry for being inexperienced with this kind of stuff!!

James
 

Alex Schubow (Alex)
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

dude just get a breaker bar or a slim head ratchet. a breaker bar does not have the ratcheting mechanism, and therefore has a much smaller head. don't worry about tightening that plug with a torque wrench either. just make it almost flush with the surface of the tc.
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Username: Muskyman

Post Number: 331
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL

it is just frigging amazing that there can be so much chatter over a 1 min check of a fluid level

james you are way way over thinking all this
 

Kobayashi (Koby)
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Username: Koby

Post Number: 533
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

James,

This is a 1/2" breaker bar:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/snap-on/DSC05756.jpg

I am not sure about the space you're working in, but it sounds like that breaker bar is what you need.

 

James Newman (Lr_disco_i)
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Username: Lr_disco_i

Post Number: 88
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok so if I dont have to worry about torque then I'll go get this breaker bar to do the whole job.... looks like it might work cos it looks like the head pivots at an angle (and provides better leverage) and then I could actually take my wheels off too... might actually get to drive my car tommorrow :-)
 

Kobayashi (Koby)
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Username: Koby

Post Number: 534
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think the only time you need to worry about torque specs are when you're putting the thing back together.

It's then that you use the torque wrench.

And as the common mantra goes with tools, measure twice, torque once.

Good luck!
 

Ray Gerber (Raygerber)
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Username: Raygerber

Post Number: 88
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

James,
I'm not sure quite where you are having a problem but I filled my t-case last night and here's what I did:
Used a 1/2 rachet with an extension, 4-5 inches I believe, b/c that puts you past the drum for the rachet but the extension is narrow enough to still get to the plug.

What I did find challenging was getting the fluid in there without spilling it all over the parking lot so if anyone has any tricks for transfer of fluids (that didn't sound good... but you know what I mean) I'm soliciting for ideas, as next is the transmission (5-speed).

r-
Ray
 

Alex Schubow (Alex)
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

use a pump
 

Ray Gerber (Raygerber)
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Post Number: 89
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Alex,
That's pretty much what I was thinking. My first idea was to get one of those big turkey-basting size syringes and some platic tubing and pump it in like that, but I might look for a more conventional version before I raid the wife's kitchen drawers.
r-
Ray
 

Blake Monchilovich (Azblake)
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Username: Azblake

Post Number: 72
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just put some tubing on the nipple of your oil and squeeze it in there.
 

One_Bad_Needledick (Koby)
Senior Member
Username: Koby

Post Number: 537
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

tricks for transfer of fluids?

use a pump?

tubing on the nipples?

Damn, and to think this started as an innocent question! Too much innuendo in here for me.

Never mind, it's Friday...

lol
 

Corey (Discobro)
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Username: Discobro

Post Number: 256
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ray - most auto parts store will have pumps you can buy seperately to screw onto the top of the gear oil container. Sta-Lube is the brand of gear oil I prefer and they sell a pump that fits a standard opening on those plastic containers that the oil comes in - works great! It's a must have if you plan to keep your rig longer than a few years and do your own maintenance especially if you wade through water quite a bit. I change my diff fluid about 5-6 times a year because of this and with the pump only takes a few minutes.

Just my .02....

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