| Author | Message | ||
     Hans Poppe (Hgpoppe) New Member Username: Hgpoppe Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2003 |
Just bought a 1999 Disco II with 58K. I took it the dealer for new brakes and a 60k service. They told me there is "some leaking from the front differential." And it should be resealed ($418) They also told me there "is an oil leak at the bellhousing area, probably cruciforms/possible rear main." ($1400) I only notice a small spot of oil on the garage floor after a couple of days, about a quarter to half dollar size. What, if any, risks are there to not performing these repairs? Just keep the fluid topped? Thanks for your help! | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 380 Registered: 04-2003 |
just keep it topped up. if you pay for the repairs, two things will happen: 1) the dealer will laugh all the way to the bank, and 2) it will still leak in the same places | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 607 Registered: 08-2002 |
What is a bellhousing and cruciform? | ||
| Jaime Crusellas (Jaime) Member Username: Jaime Post Number: 97 Registered: 05-2003 |
The bellhousing is the bell shaped area between the engine and transmission, It houses the flywheel and clutch for a manual transmission, or the torque converter for an automatic trans. I have no idea what a cruciform is other than the word means shaped like a cross | ||
| Federico (Fede) Member Username: Fede Post Number: 45 Registered: 05-2003 |
Whenever I take my 96D1 to the dealer for service, they always tell me I have leaks here and there and that I should look into getting them fixed. Mine barely leaks at all, in my opinion, and have never had any problems with it-I just monitor the fluids a little more regularly to see if there are any major losses or just the regular Disco leak. | ||
| p (Pfb) New Member Username: Pfb Post Number: 12 Registered: 08-2003 |
Sigh. Sad fact of life: Land Rovers Drip. I wonder if the fancy new Rangie with the BMW motor has a specially engineered fluid siphon to leave trademark Land Rover spots on the driveway... | ||
| Hans Poppe (Hgpoppe) New Member Username: Hgpoppe Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2003 |
How do I check and fill the differential fluid? I know there are no stupid questions, just stupid people asking questions...I am one. | ||
| Eric Olsen (Eric_olsen) Member Username: Eric_olsen Post Number: 76 Registered: 02-2003 |
Hans, There is a plastic screw/bolt about half way up the diff housing. This is the fill level. Just unscrew it and have a look. You may be asking these questions now, but after owning this beast for awhile you will feel like a certified Land Rover tech. Eric Olsen 2000 DII | ||
| Hans Poppe (Hgpoppe) New Member Username: Hgpoppe Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2003 |
Thanks, Eric. I'll try. Curious question, "why do we want a beast?" I just want a reliable vehicle, is that too much to ask? | ||
| OLIVER CLOTHSOFF (Everythingleaks) Senior Member Username: Everythingleaks Post Number: 305 Registered: 10-2002 |
The new Range Rover doesn't need the siphon system when the seals leak just like the old trucks do. I guess they build that part of the history into the new truck. | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) New Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 8 Registered: 08-2003 |
Eric, question from newbie who got leaks and stuff  I thought you sppse to put new sealing ring each time when you touching those bolts. Am i wrong? Would love to check oil level in both diffs, but too afraid to screw up  | ||
| Porter Mann (Porter) New Member Username: Porter Post Number: 38 Registered: 05-2003 |
I say, if its not a bother, and it only leaks a slight bit (your opinion) - leave it. Is it really worth 2000 dollars on your part to have it changed. Just check the fluid on a regular basis. If it gets bad, then have it done. The diffs on Land rover have two bolts (are they plastic? I thought that they were metal) One half way up the pumpkin to fill, and one on the bottom slighltly offcentered which is the drain. Make sure that the fill opens first, and then drain it out the bottom. Fill with fluid until it overflows from the fill hole and your done. The easist fluid to change. | ||
| Ron Johnson (Chauner) Member Username: Chauner Post Number: 50 Registered: 05-2003 |
I just had to replace front bearings and races within the front differential of my 98 D1. After the repairs were done I bought the factory gasket and used more permetex(spelling??)and so far no leaks. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 567 Registered: 11-2002 |
Ron... Curious- If it is not leaking, how do you know if it has fluid in it? I always thought that was how you knew these pigs were properly serviced! | ||
| Eric Olsen (Eric_olsen) Member Username: Eric_olsen Post Number: 77 Registered: 02-2003 |
""why do we want a beast?" I just want a reliable vehicle, is that too much to ask?" Hans, I also had hopes of this once. Sergei, You will not screw anything up checking the fluid level, just dont crossthread the plastic screw when putting it back together. | ||
| Hans Poppe (Hgpoppe) New Member Username: Hgpoppe Post Number: 7 Registered: 08-2003 |
Funny thing. Had the dealer do a simple oil change (factory filter). Six days and no leaks. You don't think they were messing with me, do you? | ||
| Corey (Discobro) Senior Member Username: Discobro Post Number: 258 Registered: 12-2002 |
Guys - this changing the diff fluid is so easy a 4 year old could do it. Yes, there are two bolts in the diff, one on the side (to fill/check level) and one on the bottom (to drain (and they are metal not plastic). If the dealership is telling you you need new diff seals they either mean you need a seal on the threads of the fill/drain plugs or they are just full of it. LR diffs are one piece (at least on my 96 they are) so there are no "seals" persay. I don't know about other years. Do this yourself - it's easy. It will take a half hour at the most for the front and back. Take out both plugs (fill plug first) and drain out old gear oil. Make sure all gear oil is drained out and clean threads and plug. Put some thread sealant on the plug (Hylomar) and let setup for about 5 min and tighten on drain plug. Fill the diff with gear oil (I use 80w 90 StaLube brand API/GL5) until it runs out the fill plug and do the same to the fill plug as you did to the drain plug and tighten. DONE. This is actually simpler than changing the oil! Just do it! | ||
| noel Bond (93dico) Member Username: 93dico Post Number: 44 Registered: 06-2003 |
Corey, How often sould we Just Do It ? Change the dif oil,I'v got 2 wks off work and I'v just done the Radeator Hose as you may know :-) Noel | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 260 Registered: 02-2003 |
The diff housing is not one piece, if it was, how would you get to the diff? One part of the housing is incorporated in the axle housing, the second part (Called the third member) is bolted to the axle housing. Silicon sealant (Hylomar, Ultrablack etc) is used where the third member bolts to the axle. This is one area that could potentially leak, allthough it does not happen very often. A more likely suspect is the output seal around the shaft that connects to the flange the driveshaft is bolted to. Since the shaft is a moving part, the seal will wear over time, and you can have a leak in that area. One thing to check before attacking that seal however, is your axle breathers. (The plastic hoses conneted to the top of the axle housing.) When you fill up your diff, you are not just filling the diff, you are filling the axle housing, too. If the breathers are clogged, excess pressure have to go somewhere, and the path of least resistance is through the output seal on the diff, where the driveshaft connects. Just undo the breathers and check for blockage. How often you should change the diff oil depends on how you use the truck. I change mine once per year. (And I use sythetic gear oil) If you go through a lot of mud and water on a regular basis, you want to change it more frequently. - Axel | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 569 Registered: 11-2002 |
Get a funnel if you don't want to make a big ol' mess when putting the fluid back in. Anybody else hate the way that stuff smells? | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 570 Registered: 11-2002 |
Will a 2003 Curry Hook fit a 97 D1? | ||
| Gary Sherman (Sbts1) New Member Username: Sbts1 Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2003 |
With these cars, It is when it stops leaking that you have a problem. |
