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Matt Jablonski (M4ttjabz)
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I hooked up a Pioneer deck using a volkswagen harness and it plays just fine, but it makes a whirring sound and as I accerlate the noise gets louder. I know there some ground fault thats hooked up to the amps, because its amplifying the acceleration. Has anyone else had this problem? How do you fix it?


-Matt
 

Jess Brandt (Disco285)
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

if you figure it out let me know...
 

Ken Tipton (Irish_nv)
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Post Number: 111
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

did you bypass the amps? You should have and the speakers should run straight off the head unit. Also on the back of the pioneer is a spot to add a ground (right in the center is a spot for a screw) ground that directly to the chassis it may help
 

Matt Jablonski (M4ttjabz)
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No, I did not bypass the amps, I have them hooked up. How would I go about bypassing the amps without running new wire?

-Matt
 

Joe M. (Little_joe)
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Post Number: 164
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You'll likely have to run new wire since the speakers are wired back to the amps, unless you cut and bridge around the amps. I've not heard anyone who's successfully eliminated all humming when retaining the factory amps. I tried that converter from Crutchfield (Pacific-something) and a Scosche, and it still hums. I'll rewire as time allows.

joe
 

Luke Tolson (Luke4696)
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Username: Luke4696

Post Number: 153
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So is some whirring to be expected?
-Luke

p.s. Joe, did you get the note I sent about the D1 parts?
 

Danno (Danno)
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Username: Danno

Post Number: 261
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

no humming here, and i've had a Sony unit in there since 97 and now a Alpine.
 

Joe M. (Little_joe)
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Danno, how did you wire it? I need to see it. :-)

Luke, I'll check email when I get home this evening.

joe
 

Danno (Danno)
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Post Number: 262
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ok, i lied... i was just in the Disco. there is a very slight buzz, but only noticable when the volume is all the way down.

used a line level converter to lower the signal coming from the head going to the amps.
 

dareDVL (Daredvl)
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Make sure deck is grounded and use a quality line-level output converter.
 

Matt Jablonski (M4ttjabz)
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I had the Will at crutchfield take a look at it and he said the only way would be to rewire and bypass the amps, but if I did this, I would loose power to the subwoofers. We tried every inline noise reduction unit they have and nothing helped. We tried grounding all of the grounds together and grounding right off the metal of the deck and it did not help. At first we used a OEM-2 adapter, but that didn't help so we just wired it straight through without any adapter. I've been at Crutchfield every day since Friday, I think they're getting tired of me. Any ideas that don't involve a lot of money and the disassembly of my rover?

-Matt
 

Tbow (Tbow)
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Post Number: 123
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The only way I've found has been to rewire and bypass the factory amp. If your deck has a subwoofer outlet, you can also connect to the subwoofer wires and it should work fine. The amp for the subwoofers is located in the back with the subs. It's really not that hard or require major disassembly.
 

Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
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Post Number: 148
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Usually when you have ground noise it is not system related. It is typically a bad ground elsewhere in the vehicle, usually the engine. Try changing or cleaning up the engine ground and battery ground. Also, make sure you have the correct antenna adaptor and that it is in all of the way. A loose or incorrect antenna adaptor will cause engine noise as well. Do not use the factory stereo ground in the dash. Make a new one. Also, I would leave the factory amp grounds where they are. The best you could do would be to clean them up. Try removing paint at the grounding points and maybe replacing the wire, but don't move it. The noise should be before the head unit, so anything after the RCA cables is pretty much in the clear. When you add a new head unit you are increasing the signal strength from that point on. The cause of the noise was there before, just not noticable. If you use a high output line-level adaptor you are just amplifing that bad signal.
 

Joe M. (Little_joe)
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Matt, I did the exact same thing - was on the phone with them for several hours over a few days, nothing worked. Tried every config possible. I just live with the hum for the time being (which is only audible when there's no music or volume is very low), until I rewire it. The line-level converter mentioned above sounds as if it may be worth a try too.

joe

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