| Author | Message | ||
     Brian Anderson (Hans) New Member Username: Hans Post Number: 25 Registered: 08-2003 |
Ok, the first thing I notice is that I apparently need to relocate the steering damper, it is currently in back of the front diff and looks fairly exposed. Can I move it to the other side of the diff and tuck it up under a skid plate? Also if so where would I find a relocate kit? Thanks, Brian | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 76 Registered: 09-2002 |
you can but a relocation kit for a couple of bucks from $afari Gard and it's something like this: http://www.roverunited.com/tech/safari-gard-relocation-kit/sg-steering.htm or if you weld, you can take the whole bracket off from the underside of the diff and weld it to your pan-rod (same place as the $G... but it's kinda ghetto- like me :D | ||
| Brian Anderson (Hans) New Member Username: Hans Post Number: 26 Registered: 08-2003 |
Thanks Jon, I just ordered it. | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 76 Registered: 10-2002 |
damn... that was quick. i was gonna recommend a d-90 conversion damper set up. oh well. actually depending on what year rangie you have. | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 481 Registered: 09-2002 |
hey, i was gonna recommend a d-90 conversion also, you been stealing ideas from my truck? | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 482 Registered: 09-2002 |
actually, any year can be converted, on later classics you have to change out the drop arm for the older style. Not real clear, but it's the best I have at the moment: http://expeditionexchange.com/pismo2003/P1010080.jpg SC | ||
| David Woo (Davidwoo) New Member Username: Davidwoo Post Number: 38 Registered: 01-2003 |
Actually, I was gonna steal ideas from both your trucks!  Have seen that ECR and RTE also make relocation/upgrade kits: some day... DW | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 483 Registered: 09-2002 |
they all clamp around the drag link. the defender conversion uses this (should be other way up)  much more elegant IMHO sc | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2002 |
sorry master steve... LOL i'm still working on what happens on the other end of the damper. anyhow, RRC's have the luxury of doing this conversion simply by replacing w/ the OEM drop arm. why not! | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 79 Registered: 10-2002 |
apologies... wrong info on the replacing the OEM drop arm... should read, ... simply by replacing to this OEM D90 thingy(picture above). really bad w/ names here. LOL david, why look at ECR and RTE when u are half way there. | ||
| Brian Anderson (Hans) New Member Username: Hans Post Number: 28 Registered: 08-2003 |
What am I missing, the Safari Gard kit was $45. The others were like $400!??? | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 868 Registered: 02-2003 |
yes elegant indeed. it's been on my short list for 8 months and still has not happened yet. the drop arm is part of it though. i think the disco drop arm is alot longer or something is different. if you want to do the conversion you need the drop arm and the connection thingy. but we are down here in RR land. rd | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 485 Registered: 09-2002 |
Rob, I think it's a year thing. The later RRC has a straight (horizontally) drop arm with the ball joint pointing down. In that case you need to switch to the older drop arm with the ball joint pointing up, like I did. I think it changed in '89? Not sure if or when the Disco switched. All Defenders use the older style arm. If you have this then all you need is the eye-end:  SC | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 80 Registered: 10-2002 |
rob, u should be good w/ just the D90 connection thingy(eye cross rod?) http://necessiteesapparel.com/rangie/damper_conv/ i had the drop arm w/ the serviceable ball joint. so just ordered the D90 OEM "eye cross rod". instead of guessing what years do this and do that, we should look at VIN's to see what one has. this is what i have so far, check your VIN's: drop arm w/ ball joint up to VIN NA615503, this means you only need the D90 thingy. eyelet type drop arm from VIN NA615504, this means the drop arm doesn't have a ball joint, ball joint is screwed to the drag link. thus you'll need the older type drop arm and D90 part for the conversion. the other issue would be to make a bracket to fasten the other end of the damper. so in order to locate the correct position of this bracket you'd have to look at a D90 to see where the OEM bracket is welded. yes, welding it is. unless you want to devise a way of bolting the bracket to the chassi. either way, the D90 conversion is the most Classic way of doing it for the Classic. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 871 Registered: 02-2003 |
i know for a fact that i have the old (good)drop arm, and a spare if anyone is in need. | ||
| Randall Smith (Mr_smith) Member Username: Mr_smith Post Number: 60 Registered: 04-2003 |
The drop arm change started mid year of 1992 at vehicle# NA615504. I also have my 92RR set up just like the D90. That part in Steve's picture above is NCR8232, which actually cost less than the RRC part, even though it is more complex. Also I had to cut the thread longer on thid D90 part to get it to work. Fortunately I have a big lathe and a 11/16 left hand threading die. For the other end of the steering damper I simply bolted the original mounting bracket(which was attached to the diff) to the frame. Mount it exactly where it is attached to the frame on a D90. I just drilled and taped two holes in the frame and screwed it down. You could probably weld it too. So both ends on my damper are just like the Defender. And you need a D90 steering damper also. You also need to make sure that the damper is in the middle of it's travel when the wheels are pointed straight ahead. There is one big dissadvantage in using the D90 damper. It does not dampen nearly as well as the rear set up because the drivers side wheel is not directly connected to it any more. Don't be suprised if the DS front wheel goes out of control when you hit a bump at high speed. Solution: tighten up the preload on the swivels. Randall | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 451 Registered: 03-2003 |
http://necessiteesapparel.com/rangie/damper_conv/ That conversion is the bomb. Tons better than some bracket bolted to the drag link. |
