| Author | Message | ||
     Gregory M Lichtenson (Gml) New Member Username: Gml Post Number: 37 Registered: 09-2003 |
Was recently told about thatchedroofgarage.com, Wanted to buy Adventure roof rack but the guy tried to sell me one for the d 2 said it would stick out a little. This guy is supposed to be a dist but yet he is out of stock of d 1 Adventure roof rack,told me 6 to 8 weeks to wait,ha ha ha,gave me a price of 950.00 Usd than told me he only makes 45.00 Usd sounds like a phoney southerner that wants to ripe off a Nothern Yankee well the south lost the civil war and this guy is not getting my biz.•••••• feed back on this guy? | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 745 Registered: 09-2002 |
Many respected Dweb members here have done business with them. Might want to check the attitude at the door before you start slamming a company you've never done business with on here. | ||
| Jack Edwards (Olered) Senior Member Username: Olered Post Number: 420 Registered: 04-2002 |
Geez. As a southerner, I choose to RIP off Yankees. As for "Ripe-ing" people off, I guess it's a Yankee thing. As for Northern Yankee, doesn't that statement cancel itself? The thatchedroofgarage.com guys are great. Never had a problem. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1912 Registered: 02-2002 |
Unbelievable. This type of dialogue is what I expect to see on the Whiskey Tango BBS. This reminds me of when I first moved to the south: VW Dealer: "Boy, where are you from?" Me: "Washington State" VW Dealer: "Well. if you are not a Yankee and you are not a Southerner...Well then what the hell are you?" Me: "Educated. The war is over." Dave and the folks at TRG are fine Rover owning folks. | ||
| Luke Tolson (Luke4696) Member Username: Luke4696 Post Number: 169 Registered: 06-2003 |
Can we got some punctuation here? Am I the only one having a hard time following this guys comment/question? I guess this just seems to be a theme throughout all his posts on Dweb. Can we get some action from a moderator or something? | ||
| Leo (Leo_hallak) Member Username: Leo_hallak Post Number: 127 Registered: 02-2003 |
Sometimes even a stocking distributor can run out of a product, have you ever considered that maybe the shipments are slow and small from England? If you do some price checking resale on any Land Rover rack is high. Maybe you should get a clue before you bash someones business because you didnt hear what you wanted. -Leo | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 748 Registered: 09-2002 |
Don't forget, some of these companies have their own fabricators so being able to stock accessories like that isn't necessarily possible or feasible. They may make them on a "as needed basis". | ||
| Aaron Richardet (Draaronr) Senior Member Username: Draaronr Post Number: 266 Registered: 09-2002 |
Just another example of someone showing their ass. David Gage from TRG is a standup guy. I think he is respectable and very knowledgeable. I have gotten valuable information from him in the past and hope to continue in the future. It's ignorant comments from newbies that drive away people that have knowledge from this site. What ever happended to if you don't have anything nice to say then keep it to yourself. | ||
| Steve Vines (Stevedsii) Member Username: Stevedsii Post Number: 54 Registered: 05-2002 |
Gregory, I see that your profile lists you as a "performer" from New York City. Please excuse this Southerner for stereotyping you as another know-it-all Northerner. FYI - most people down here could give a shit about who won the Civil War. BTW - No offense intended to everyone else who happens to live above the Mason-Dixon Line. | ||
| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 224 Registered: 02-2002 |
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| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1385 Registered: 04-2002 |
Well, I'm from Georgia. Lived there 23 years. I also lived 9 years in Texas. 1.5 years in Pennsylvania and for about 4 months in Florida. Looks like I have officially lived in two Southern States, and two Northern States.  | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 654 Registered: 05-2002 |
Gregory, $950 sounds about right. There are not too many people going around charging too much on non-exclusive parts in this community beyond the dealers. The community is just too small to get away with it for long. Speaking of small communities: you may want to consider an attitude revision. The folks on this board are also the people you may need help from on the board or even one day on the trail. Curtis | ||
| Michael Noe (Noee) Senior Member Username: Noee Post Number: 743 Registered: 03-2002 |
Hey, Goober Markup Language, chill. David knows his shit and runs a very fair operation. Careful, you might validate a stereotype. | ||
| Robert Sublett (Rubisco98) Senior Member Username: Rubisco98 Post Number: 1026 Registered: 04-2002 |
Gregory, I visit David at Thatched Roof Garage on quite a regular basis as I often work nearby his shop. I will say that you have missed the mark with your comments above. How many containers, coming over from the other side of the pond should a distributor stock, since you are obviously all-knowing? Containers arrive at Thatched Roof quite regularly, and there is ALOT of stuff that comes in that simply goes right out the door. As far as his mark-up, it is honestly next to nothing. I'm going to stop before I make any more comments, as I consider Dave a friend as well as a trusted Rover-aholic. | ||
| David Woo (Davidwoo) Member Username: Davidwoo Post Number: 44 Registered: 01-2003 |
Greg: have known and talked with David for a couple of years: a good guy. He is trying to make the best of a bad situation, namely that it is very difficult to get stock in this country. Someone told me that was the reason that AB stopped carrying their stuff: too many upset customers with empty promises, and AB just got tired of getting the negative feedback. If you really want the rack, give David a shot and he will do his best to get what you want. He is still trying to get me some seats, which are somewhere on a container, on a ship, on the seas.... DW | ||
| Max Thomason (Lrmax) Member Username: Lrmax Post Number: 249 Registered: 11-2002 |
Gregory, I know David and have done lots of business with him. He has been a great help with mainly my S3 109 and some with my 95 disco (not a lot going on there). The price is right, and the 6~8 weeks is how often he gets a container from the UK. So that sounds about right. Now your Yankee vs. Southerners comment, I'm not going to go there. I don't even want to get worked up... And he lives in Tennessee. It doesn't get any better than that! Max T. | ||
| Will Bobbitt (Rkores) Senior Member Username: Rkores Post Number: 314 Registered: 09-2002 |
Greg, David at Thatched Roof is a great guy, and has done a lot to help me, along with many others. It seems like you have a problem with bashing people way before you know anything about them. Will | ||
| Aaron Richardet (Draaronr) Senior Member Username: Draaronr Post Number: 267 Registered: 09-2002 |
damn light a candle. this has to make David smile from ear to ear. Look forward to the civil war re-enactment at MAR this year. What side do you think Greg will be for? We better be nice he might just march into Richmond and take the capital for the North. Dude you live in a bubble, we don't stereotype northerners, because most are good people but if you want to get us started. Here is a bumper sticker slogan "a good yankee is a yankee with a uhaul heading north on I-95" | ||
| Thomas Dahbura (U352) Member Username: U352 Post Number: 167 Registered: 10-2002 |
I can't let bashing Dave go without a word from me. Thatched roof is great and have helped me solve problems on my rover without selling me a goddamn thing. Noe-your right about validating a stereo type-it is too late for me to agree that sometimes some people do a great job keeping it alive. PS- I LOVE THATCHED ROOF!!! | ||
| Art Bitterman (Aardvark) Member Username: Aardvark Post Number: 65 Registered: 05-2003 |
OK, guess I'll join in on the "I Love David" lovefest (wait-that don't sound quite right...) He's stand up guy. Good parts at a good price. And he has a good bottle of Scotch at Rallies.... Art Bitterman 1960 SII "Aardvark" | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 524 Registered: 03-2002 |
so far, gergory has been pissed off because land rover north america will not call him back and thatched roof will not do right by him... greg, do us a favor: sell the rover and buy a jeep. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2490 Registered: 02-2002 |
Damn!!!  I can't believe I actually was working today at work and missed chewing ass here.... Gregory M Lichtenson, pardon my french, but you're on my shit-list now. Let me tell you about Safety Devices. They have a decent product, but they suck ass as a customer-related company. David is their "US distributor" for Rover stuff, but let me tell you, they charge him full retail price on their stuff. He tries to make a little money on SD stuff, but the exchange rate and shipping kill his profit... he refuses to charge his customers too much of a premium over cost, but the cost is too high. They screw up his orders for their crap, they have no desire to try to meet shipping deadlines, they're nothing but a nightmare to deal with. So, when you add on top of that fact that SD sends stuff over mislabled, he actually loses money on their crap. Let me tell you a story: he sends out a couple of roll-cages, but because of the labelling problem unbekownst to him, halves of two different cages one go on place and the other halves of them go to another. So, David ships the bits back, then ships them back out on his dime. He hasn't made ANY money on SD cages, at all. Roof racks are a break-even proposition, maybe. I've helped unload MANY of the shipping containers of parts that he gets in, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that over half of each container is already sold before it arrives. The day a container comes in, that afternoon and the next two days, UPS gets run into the ground with stuff going out. Within 2-weeks, the rest of the container is mostly gone, all but some standard stock bits for Series Rovers. Realize, the Thatched Roof Garage started as a parts house for Series Rovers. It was people like me begging for good gear for Discoveries that prompted David into even dealing with stuff for coilers, and it's mostly been a headache for him, over crap like this. And, to show you what little you know, David wasn't born here, his father was military, and moved here after he retired when he was in high-school, so you can drop that damned north-south bullshit right now, it's totally inapplicable. Dammit, I'm so pissed off, I'm not gonna sleep tonight now. Thanks alot you sonovabitch...  I second Mike, sell your Rover and get a damned Jeep.... -L | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2492 Registered: 02-2002 |
PS: Dammit, I can't leave it alone.... a) What the FUCK is up with your damned "RSVP RSVP" shit? b) Let me be clear, anyone who walks into David's shop is treated like a good friend, until they earn deserving less than that by being a dick. c) Ne'er mind, I'm probably just wasting my time typing this, it'd just go in one ear and out the other. Anyway.... -L | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2493 Registered: 02-2002 |
PPS Dammit, just to be clear.... The guys here are right: SD makes stuff to ship out as its ordered, they don't have roll-cages lying around waiting for an order. David orders LOTS of parts, and the majority of them aren't SD crap.... chassis' and Series Rovers take up a lot of room, and wheels and door panels and engines and etc. etc. For the SD stuff, David orders enough to cover whatever people have paid for up front, and has room for maybe one or two more bits from them. If you want one, you about have to have it bought first, then he'll order it and get it in, unless you work out something else... he's an affable fellow, and someone well worth having on your side. Getting on an international BBS and pissing in his cheerios after one honest phone call is a sorry way to treat someone. -L | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 298 Registered: 02-2003 |
And he will probably be even more pissed off when he realizes what the moderators have done to his account. This kind of infantile behavior will not be tolerated.  - Axel | ||
| Chris Nuzum (Cnuzum) Member Username: Cnuzum Post Number: 54 Registered: 02-2003 |
This guy sounds like the guy who was complaining about the Land Rover rep. not calling him back about the "new Defender" post a few days ago. Quick. Somebody get them some cheeze! | ||
| Chris Nuzum (Cnuzum) Member Username: Cnuzum Post Number: 55 Registered: 02-2003 |
Damn, just did a quick check and realized,,, it IS the same person. Shoulda known. | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 754 Registered: 09-2002 |
HA! See I wasn't the only one wondering about the "RSVP RSVP" thing! | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 527 Registered: 03-2002 |
too bad there is no "discoweb cam" so we can see and hear his reaction when he finds out that he has been voted off the island. in the words of the joe schmoe host, "ashes to ashes, dust to dust. gregory, you are dead to us." | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 479 Registered: 04-2001 |
BTW it IS safety devices fault, the racks were/are on back order from land rover for 6 months plus because SD could not get off their butts, at the begining of the back order david was the only one with racks. In fact he may be the only one with DII racks at the moment. Ron BTW I would unconditionally recommend David Gage/thatchedroofgarage and I buy a lot of rover parts. He is probably the most honest outfit going, I would say he is probably only making $45. | ||
| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 225 Registered: 02-2002 |
It's guys like this that try to give Manufacturers and Distributors a bad wrap. He has no clue of what really goes on and how it works. As a manufacturer we try to keep all our distributors in stock to the best of our ability and theirs. People seem to forget that manufactures face the same problems as distributors. We have to get product in for production, which can be delayed. You can guess your inventory by past history and usage but you can never make a 100% guess of what may be hot the next month. Then you have to figure the distributor who is on the front line has even a bigger burden of meeting demands. Nobody wants dead inventory!! I don't know SD and wouldn't try to guess their problem but I would guess that a performer hasn't a clue as to how the real world works! It's all about the flow of parts and money and the waiting for both. What a dumbass. Hey Greg, I am a military brat that has lived all over the US. I manufacture in NC and in CA. If I were to piss you off, (hoping that day could come), how would you label me? Leslie, hope you got some sleep! Ken | ||
| Dan Ratcliffe (Dan_ratcliffe) New Member Username: Dan_ratcliffe Post Number: 22 Registered: 07-2003 |
You know, I first met David about 5 years ago. Since that time I have never heard anyone say a bad thing until this loser. I wouldn't suggest this clown by a Jeep though. Land Rover folks tend to try and maintain a certain level of civility. If he were to talk like this to some Jeepin' folks I know they would invite him to an a** whippin'. Better yet, please, please, please buy a jeep. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1918 Registered: 02-2002 |
You guys ever see the movie "Drowning Mona" where everyone in the town drives a Yugo? Gregory here is definately Yugo material. | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 542 Registered: 08-2002 |
It sounds to me like Gregory is from the "world owes me something" school of assholes. He likely feels that he need only snap his fingers and we should all jump to his beckon call. He thinks David should jump; LRNA should jump; SD should jump; Discoweb should jump.....ooops, Discoweb did jump!!! Bye-bye Gregory, you ARE the weakest link! | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1386 Registered: 04-2002 |
Paul. That movie was on TV a few days ago.... Watched it over in Key Biscayne at the Ritz Carlton Monday night, but I thought the name was "bye, bye love" or something like that. Damn funny movie though......... Never seen so many Yugo's in one place. Greg - a southerner stuck in a northern state south of the mason dixon line. ;) | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) New Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 39 Registered: 08-2003 |
Maybe he really owns a jeep, and he's just here to piss us off! Or he could just be a jerk, you choose. ;) | ||
| Ray Gerber (Raygerber) Member Username: Raygerber Post Number: 97 Registered: 09-2002 |
Even though our performer is gone, can we still make it so anyone who uses that damn "RSVP RSVP...waiting for a quick reply" automatically has it show up like ••••••? | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 1004 Registered: 08-2002 |
Oh man, I feel so guilty. I'm the one that sent him to David. Little did I know.... Sorry David. | ||
| Koby (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 551 Registered: 02-2002 |
Well, it seems that Gregory Licktballensen has distinguished himself as pretty damn good performer on top of being an asshole. He has pulled a great vanishing act. | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 178 Registered: 02-2002 |
Greg, don't feel badly. Though David won't be getting Mr. L's "biz", about the only thing McDork spelled correctly was David's web address. So, as the old saw goes (paraphrasing here), "Call me whatever you like, just spell my name right." David's excellent reputation remains untainted and I suspect David will do just fine without Mr. L's business, however one spells it, har har. Karen | ||
| Ron L (Ronl) Member Username: Ronl Post Number: 169 Registered: 11-2002 |
I betcha even if the rack was in stock mr. licktisballs would not buy it. "950.00 Usd than told me he only makes 45.00" that says it all. | ||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior Member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 341 Registered: 11-2002 |
Username: Gml Full Name: Gregory M Lichtenson E-mail Address: [email protected] Last Logged In: September 10, 2003 Registered: September 05, 2003 Total Posts: 40 Status: Member Home Page URL: http://earthlink.net Occupation: performer City: nyc State/Province: ny Country: usa#1 Personal Quote: Live and Learn and ask many questions. Age: 40 Sex (M/F): male Rover 1: Landrover Discovery #1 3.9 5 Spd 41,000miles this says it all hope he learns a lesson I wonder if the rack was going to be used to dry his leatards on after a show? | ||
| Kevin Bridges (Craniac) Member Username: Craniac Post Number: 165 Registered: 02-2003 |
Muskeyman, now thats funny. I dont know whats more amusing the occupation or the quote. BTW hows the corn binder? | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Senior Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 309 Registered: 10-2002 |
I was guessing he is one of those annoying street mimes. Probably works in Central Park... | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 306 Registered: 02-2003 |
How does a mime "ask many questions"? That would get annoying real fast..... It would be interesting to watch this Yankee mime try to kick some Southern butt, though...... - Axel | ||
| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 227 Registered: 02-2002 |
Yes it would! | ||
| David Seger (Croakus) New Member Username: Croakus Post Number: 38 Registered: 06-2003 |
Greg, 1) He's right. The D2 roof rack is exactly the same width and fits fine. but it's about 6" longer. 2) Since you know so much about supply chain management in a small business environment why don't you open a shop and keep all parts that all customers might want to buy on hand at all times? Idiot. | ||
| chuck yarbrough (Cptyarderho) New Member Username: Cptyarderho Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2003 |
"so far, gergory has been pissed off because land rover north america will not call him back and thatched roof will not do right by him... greg, do us a favor: sell the rover and buy a jeep..." FWIW, we Jeep guys don't put up with this kind of stuff either. he is the type of guy who wakes up to find his horn wired to the brake pedal... | ||
| matthew teague (_matt_) New Member Username: _matt_ Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2003 |
Hey everybody, I hate for my first post here to be so distasteful, but so it is. Seeing as how I've just bought a truck from David at Thatched Roof, I read this thread with great interest. Now, I should say first: In buying this truck from David, he took it upon himself to point out its imperfections, especially the ones I would have missed. An honest guy in every way. So I became fascinated with this guy who trashed him -- his personal profile listed his occupation as a "performer" in NYC. Now, you can't fault anybody for his job. Work is work. But I think if you're gonna hold up somebody else's professional living for public scrutiny, you should welcome the same yourself. So I did a little digging -- and what do you know? -- the guy really is a performer. He's been in two movies, even. You might remember his work from The Devil's Advocate, in which he played "jogger." Or you might recognize him from Caught, in which he mastered the role of "Cop No. 2." All fine work. Real craftsmanship. matt | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 313 Registered: 02-2003 |
Ok, enough of this. Let's move on. - Axel |
