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Jason McCombs (Jasonmc)
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Username: Jasonmc

Post Number: 101
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hey guys teh other day i filled up the tank and left my gas cap on the bumper, drove off and was surprised when there was no gas cap thee the next time i filled, up.. duh.. i went to the gas station where i filled up and asked if they found any caps they had one that fit. i dont know if its actually mine or not. surprisingly enough i never really looked at the old gas cap when i filled up before.

so heres my question. i know when i used to open my cap there would be a very loud and noticable air pressure release when i undid it. Is this a fuel system neccesity on the Discos or is it jsut a by product of the fule comsumption. the new as cap fits but i dont know if its my old one or not and if it doesnt allow the pressure to build up like before is this a problem?

 

marc olivares (Pugs)
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Post Number: 170
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yes this is a necessity, with discos as well as all obdII systems.
the system requires a certain amount of pressure, and will build certain amounts of pressure.
did you get a code when you drove off with out the cap? (you should have. it's the ecu detecting a leak in the purge system.)
if you haven't gotten a code with the new cap you are most likely fine. i'm guessing that the tank is still relatively full and the pressure in the tank is lessend' by the fluid. i'm assuming that you replaced with the correct oem part?
hope that helps?
marc
 

Greg French (Gregfrench)
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Username: Gregfrench

Post Number: 589
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The system is pressurized by the fuel pump, which is in the tank. The only part of the system that it is necessary to pressurize is from the pump to the injectors. As long as the pump is getting fuel, it shouldn't matter.
The tank is pressurized due to expanding gasses inside. The hotter it is outside, the more pressure is built up. It will build up more if there is more room in the tank (like if it is half full or less). It shouldn't affect anything by not fitting tight, except maybe spilling.
I went for a month or so with no cap, and was fine.
You can get a new one at any major auto parts store. I could be wrong, but I don't think being an OBDII system has anything to do with it, as all of my vehicles have vented when I unscrewed the cap.
 

marc olivares (Pugs)
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

greg, your post is partially correct.
yes the pump creates the pressure, yes the hotter the day the more expansion, but no,a tight fit is paramount. that why the cap indicates that you turn until tight and then click "x" times.
In all OBDII systems the gasses are collected and recirculated into the engines combustion chamber as enert gas to keep exhaust gasses cool, there for lowering exhaust emissions. the fuel tanks are not vented into the atmosphere when the pressure increases which is why there is a pressure release when the cap is removed. you may not have noticed a difference in the vehicles immediate performance, but the long term affects can result in other emissions related issues.

jason
sorry, no this is not a fuel system requirement, it's an emissions related issue.
marc
 

Hao Pang (Haohao)
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Username: Haohao

Post Number: 27
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hehe, last time I lost my cap and my car died on the red light. Now I drilled a hole on my new cap and tired it with a string. :-)
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Username: Muskyman

Post Number: 340
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

just go to wallmart get a new Stant cap and be done with it.

for $9.95 why trust a unknown cap?

if it throws a code you will spend $50 bucks at the dealer I'll bet
 

Ron L (Ronl)
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Username: Ronl

Post Number: 172
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Not having a cap on there is an emissions related issue. Evaporation is the problem, as a result the check engine light will come. Part of the OBD "keep em clean" rules.
 

Phil (Discoanywhere)
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Username: Discoanywhere

Post Number: 80
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Most Subaru Gas Caps fit!
...just thought I'd add this tid-bit of info..

I lost mine and used one that didn't fit well for about 3 months..didn't notice a thing?
 

Bill Ross (Billr)
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Username: Billr

Post Number: 100
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

On my '94 a Stant cap for a Honda worked. I got mine at Walmart or Canadian Tire as I recall.
 

Greg French (Gregfrench)
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Username: Gregfrench

Post Number: 590
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Marc...Never noticed the instructions on the cap. I just click it because I like the "feel" of it.
Whether it makes a difference or not, he still needs to get one.
 

robert B. (Robertb)
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Username: Robertb

Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i am using one currently from a 96 s-10. now i have noticed fumes eminating inside the vehicle. will search out the correct one because i believe it matters. :-)
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Username: Muskyman

Post Number: 342
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


quote:

just go to wallmart get a new Stant cap and be done with it.

for $9.95 why trust a unknown cap?





Stant is the maker of the factory Cap.

just go to Wallmart pick up the little book,look up your year disco and then select the proper cap.

thats really all you need to do.

but if you want to drive around and keep checking in here day after day after day for a better cheaper solution then a brand new correct cap for $9.95 I'd bet there are some other things needing attention on your disco.
 

johnson kalawe (Mxjohn)
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Username: Mxjohn

Post Number: 10
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 02:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lost my cap and picked one up a NAPA.

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