| Author | Message | ||
     Jeff (Priest) New Member Username: Priest Post Number: 17 Registered: 08-2003 |
So.. I have a friend with an X5 and he thinks Im crazy for wanting to buy a Disco2. He thinks the quality is subpar. Anyone here have words of wisdom for me? | ||
| Koby (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 557 Registered: 02-2002 |
If you intend to take your Disco2 off-roading, simply ignore your friend, buy your Disco2, and invite your friend to take his X5 along on your next off-road trip.  | ||
| p (Pfb) Member Username: Pfb Post Number: 57 Registered: 08-2003 |
...and if you intend to drive your SUV almost solely on paved roads, and would like to go around corners at a reasonable pace with minimim body lean, get the X5 like your buddy. | ||
| Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) Member Username: Cederholm Post Number: 173 Registered: 03-2002 |
It's up to you, do you want a sports car/minivan or a truck? | ||
| Peter J. Kelly (Pjkbrit) New Member Username: Pjkbrit Post Number: 40 Registered: 05-2003 |
The question is what lind of vehicle do you want...the Bimmer is beautifully made, high quality and a great drive, BUT, it's not an off road vehicle, has little room inside, cannot do 7 seats and I wouldn't tow my boat with it. Sure, the LR has 'issues'...but to me it is an enthusiasts car...and in 25 years you will still see plenty of Disco 2s around. The sad thing is that Disco 3 is ....well...NOT going to be a Land rover...but that's another story | ||
| Eugene (Eugene) Member Username: Eugene Post Number: 80 Registered: 02-2003 |
It depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for speed and cornering prowess, get the X5. On the other hand, if you plan to explore some places that few people ever get to see, get the Disco. Get the Disco and sign up for a trip with Bill Burke or one of the many other wonderful guides out there. Invite your buddy along for a ride. You will quickly see why you bought the Disco. -Eugene | ||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Senior Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 453 Registered: 02-2003 |
hook em up. | ||
| Alan Bates (Alanb) Senior Member Username: Alanb Post Number: 311 Registered: 07-2002 |
We had an X5 for 2 years, great car, on-road performace was incredible. Zero cargo capacity and very tight rear seating. Can't really compare the two, just depends on what you want to do with the car. Do you really plan on doing any serious off-roading or will it mainly be an on-road car. Can't really go wrong with the X5 if it stays on the road and you can live with the small cargo capacity, if you plan on doing any off-roading, get the Disco. | ||
| Jeff (Priest) New Member Username: Priest Post Number: 18 Registered: 08-2003 |
I like the Disco because it seems like it would give me options. Options to go off road if I wanted... options to carry my mountain bike in the back if I wanted... play around in the snow.. that kinda thing.. I like the inside cargo space that the Disco has in the back compared to the X5. Eugene, Going on one of those offroad trips really sounds fun. You guys do that in Calif.? Thanks everyone for your input | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 106 Registered: 10-2002 |
jeff, think about resale value. good luck. | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 536 Registered: 03-2002 |
a car or truck is not an investment. resale values are for houses...cars and trucks are for using up and discarding. i like the on road manners of the X5. i would never own one, it does not suit my needs at all, but they drive nicely. but to explore the world and not worry when the road ends, my rover is great and with each new part i upgrade or add, it just keeps getting better. | ||
| Jeff (Priest) New Member Username: Priest Post Number: 19 Registered: 08-2003 |
Of course we all know the Disco resale is subpar. I dont think that is the point.. and for some it may actually be a benefit. Knowing that they can get into a Disco for less money then brand new. What I hear most people saying is that the Disco is a tempermental creature that feels more at home off road then any other SUV on the market. Would you say that is a fair discription? | ||
| David Seger (Croakus) New Member Username: Croakus Post Number: 39 Registered: 06-2003 |
Jeff, That is exactly right. I've got a 2001 that I bought last year. With an OME lift and some tires I feel confident that I can do anything an H2 can do and I spent a lot less money (with respect to the H2 crowd). Of course it corners like a truck and the 0 to 60 time is about half an hour. But I can be camping on top of a mountain in under two hours. An X5 owner would need to either hike in or ride with me. If I wanted the road I'd buy an X5. I decided I would put of with the Discovery's little issues for the off-road ability. Now I wouldn't trade it for the world. | ||
| noel Bond (93dico) Member Username: 93dico Post Number: 69 Registered: 06-2003 |
Guys, What is an X5? noel | ||
| noel Bond (93dico) Member Username: 93dico Post Number: 70 Registered: 06-2003 |
Guys, What is an X5 ? Noel | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 50 Registered: 08-2003 |
The X5 is BMW's SUV. Keep your eyes out on the street, you'll see one. Matt | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 108 Registered: 10-2002 |
oh, you'r looking for a used one... that's better... i thought you were looking into buying new. | ||
| Christopher Boese (Christopher) Member Username: Christopher Post Number: 174 Registered: 10-2002 |
Noel, here's the X5: http://www.bmw.com.au/index-enterframe.html?X. It's made here in America, of all places. | ||
| Nicholas (Landrovernick) New Member Username: Landrovernick Post Number: 16 Registered: 05-2003 |
There is really no argument here. Its Land Rover vs. BMW there is no comparison. I would rather have my drafty, loud, slow, worn out, Rover than a shiny lifted station wagon. While they may be good cars (im not knocking BMW) I could never purchase one over a Rover. | ||
| noel Bond (93dico) Member Username: 93dico Post Number: 71 Registered: 06-2003 |
There is no comparison.   | ||
| Jeff (Priest) New Member Username: Priest Post Number: 22 Registered: 08-2003 |
One thing Ive noticed is that most SUVs out there have no cargo space at all. Almost looks like you have less "useable" space then a trunk. The Disco is the first Ive seen with real space to put anything. Aside from some of the American beasts. | ||
| Robert M. Godshall (Robert_godshall) New Member Username: Robert_godshall Post Number: 11 Registered: 07-2003 |
I had a run in with an X5 and I had taken Kens Disco to get something at the local Home Depot and this fellow seemed not to like the truck I was driving. Low and behold we were at the red light. You guys know the type big shiny chrome rims big loud stereo and all sorts of the standard issue bling bling bull shit. And he learned a thing or five about a rover V8. Jeff the power is there and if you want decent handeling try to get a Disco with ACE (Advanced Cornering Enhancement) and that will still allow you the off-road capabilities that land rover offers. This concludes my current statement Bob | ||
| Jeff (Priest) New Member Username: Priest Post Number: 24 Registered: 08-2003 |
Haha.... Yes.. I love it. What year is Kens Disco? Jeff | ||
| Robert M. Godshall (Robert_godshall) New Member Username: Robert_godshall Post Number: 13 Registered: 07-2003 |
Jeff, Kens Disco is a 2001, when he bought the guys at the dealer said there was some thing strange about it. It behaved differently thats why he bought it. This concludes my current statement Bob | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 259 Registered: 01-2003 |
I don't get comparing DII to X5... The X5 is so much more $$ it isn't in the same class. That would be like trashing the Disco because the Range Rover is so much nicer on road. Duh. What do you think you are paying more money for? For what it is, the X5 is really nice. It isn't meant for off-roading, so it's not trying to excel at that. One thing I really like are the roll-up sunshades in the back. Those are nice. I think it would be great if LR came up with that for the DII. Just rambling on in the morning... | ||
| John Roche (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 171 Registered: 08-2002 |
I think a floor jack is better than a toaster oven! But that's just my opinion! | ||
| Jeff (Priest) New Member Username: Priest Post Number: 26 Registered: 08-2003 |
Yeah... Alyssa, I agree.. Its funny. I was talking to a friend of mine about this subject, and we desided that alot of the, What is called an "SUV" these days is really just a car with some ground clearance. You really have little to very little inside storage, and even less real offroad capability. The reality of it is that most people dont need offroad capability, they just need to get over some mud and some snow from time to time. Ive also heard people say they have bought them just so they could see over all the SUVs out there. Lame reason.. but a reason non the less. Oh well.. the human drama continues. | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 770 Registered: 09-2002 |
Speaking of "SUVs", my optician has a Mercedes ML320 (I think that's what it's called) and absolutely hates it. I guess for shits and giggles he took it off-road recently and said the thing sucked big time so now he even hates more. LOL It could have been the tires or the fact that he has never off-roaded so didn't know what he was doing but I've haven't heard a lot of positive things about that vehicle. | ||
| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) New Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 40 Registered: 06-2003 |
Get a early D2, because BMW owned Land Rover back then before they sold it to ford. That way you can have a "BMW" suv, but the ability of a LR. With the money you saved by getting the D2 and not the X5, get a motorcycle for on road driving. Plus it'll leave the X5 in in the dust. -Rick | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 66 Registered: 08-2003 |
Nice logic Rick. Sounds good to me! Matt | ||
| Jeff (Priest) New Member Username: Priest Post Number: 27 Registered: 08-2003 |
What years did BMW own Land Rover? | ||
| Wei Quek (Apohis) New Member Username: Apohis Post Number: 13 Registered: 04-2003 |
Tell you friend to have a look at the "X5 Problems and Issues FAQ". I never said the Disco is the perfect vehicle but at least the truck is simple enough that I can do most of the work myself without resorting to $90/hr dealers service rates. But then again, if you can afford a $90K SUV, what's 90bux an hour?...... http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/auto/X5_problems.html | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 777 Registered: 09-2002 |
Jeff - I believe BMW owned LR from 1994 - 2000. | ||
| R. N. Katz (Rangierog) New Member Username: Rangierog Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2003 |
Get new friends:-))) Seriously, everyone's said pretty much the same thing: if you have ANY off-road aspirations, there is simply NO comparison. Then again, for those folks who consider "off-road" the Starbucks parking lot, the X5 is vastly superior. | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 782 Registered: 09-2002 |
and can take rumble strips at super high speeds without spilling a single drop of your low-fat-no-foam-mocha-macaido...or whatever the hell it's called. | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 532 Registered: 06-2002 |
macchiato!!! Macchiato! That's my favorite!!! hahahahaha (showing my potential for future soccer mom status...well, with a lift and mud terrains too!) Jeff, buy the Rover. Then you can hang out with crazy people like us! | ||
| David Seger (Croakus) Member Username: Croakus Post Number: 47 Registered: 06-2003 |
Susannah makes a good point. Discovery owners are cool (if slightly off-kilter). X5 owners aren't. So where's the confusion? | ||
| Jim Reynolds (4x4xfar) Member Username: 4x4xfar Post Number: 106 Registered: 05-2003 |
If you want a BMW get a wagon 5-Sereis... If you want an off highway vehicle get a Rover..period. The 5 series wagon has more cargo room and it think the same ground clearance as an X5 ... | ||
| Jeff (Priest) New Member Username: Priest Post Number: 28 Registered: 08-2003 |
Yup... cant get the Disco out of my mind... All I have to do is find the right one now. I think Silver or Green is going to be the color. Got to have the tan leather interior with the dark pinstripes around the seats. Pushbar with some Hella Lamps. Probably look for one between 1999 to 2001. Soon it will be time to act like a kid again and play in the mud with toys. Did you all read the BB about the guy who test drove the Porsche SUV....... or was it the X5 around the LR Dealer demo track and rolled it on the extreme lean angle part of the course? Man I would hate to be that guy. | ||
| Christopher Boese (Christopher) Member Username: Christopher Post Number: 188 Registered: 10-2002 |
Well, it turns out the Cayenne didn't roll over. It just slid sideways into the rail fence at the bottom of the sidehill. Still... | ||
| Jeff (Priest) New Member Username: Priest Post Number: 29 Registered: 08-2003 |
Ahh.. I see... thats a pretty different story.. but funny non the less | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1567 Registered: 04-2002 |
I would second Jims opinion on the 5er waggon over the X5. But not because of the issues he points out. The (E39) 5 waggon has about the same cargo room as the X5 and the X5 actually has more ground clearance (if that's even an issue). But the (E39) 5er waggon has much better build quality over the (E53) X5. Build quality on the X5 isn't what I've come to expect from 5 series BMW's and the ride isn't the same even if X5 owners like to say it is. That said, get the D2 if you need a truck. Go for the BMW if you need a people mover. This is coming from someone who owns both. | ||
| Christopher Boese (Christopher) Member Username: Christopher Post Number: 202 Registered: 10-2002 |
Maybe look at the Audi Allroad Quattro as well. About the same size as the 5-series wagon, but with adjustable air suspension. Maximum clearance is better than some trucks (i.e., Explorer.) Costs less than BMW too, I think. |
