| Author | Message | ||
     Adam Zerr (Adamjenzerr) New Member Username: Adamjenzerr Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2003 |
How do you put on the front sway bar quick disconects on the right side. The differental in a little tight to get it in. would i get the articulation if i only disconect one side of the sway bar. And also has anybody taken off the front and used the quick disconects in the rear, if so how does it drive. | ||
| Zach Jaggers (Mountenn) Senior Member Username: Mountenn Post Number: 352 Registered: 03-2003 |
Lose the sway bars...I lost both of them over a year ago and have had no problems at all. It's a little bouncy at times, but you get used to it. Even if you decide to keep the rear with a quick-disconnect, lose the front one. FWIW... | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 70 Registered: 08-2003 |
I went on a hunting trip this weekend with my disco. I have two safari gas cans that I made racks for so they can mount right above the windows on the roof rack. The two 5 gallon cans were the only things on the rack. I have a 3" suspension lift from RTE, and I removed my sway bars. My dad was driving it on the highway at about 65, and he said the car felt like it was going to tip over going around slight turns. The Disco was swaying side to side so bad we almost cancelled the trip. I then took the gas cans off and it drove like normal. Just having the gas cans up there was enough wieght to cause that much sway in the rig. I plan on getting a set of sway bars with disconnects now (or atleast for the rear), or I can't put anything on my rack. It drives perfectly fine when there's no wieght on the rack. IMO, Matt | ||
| Jess Alvarez (Jester) Member Username: Jester Post Number: 232 Registered: 11-2002 |
Adam, Completely agreeing with Zach. I took all of my sway bar connections off about 6 months ago. In my experience, and relaying those of my friends, *if* you have a stiffer suspension, like OMEHD or RTE, you will not notice the lean as hard as you would under a stock suspension situation. You do definitely notice a bit more body roll when the truck is loaded with camping gear or other hard loads, but I would hardly consider Matthew's Dad to be an authority on the intensity of the body roll of a Disco, unless, of course Matthew's Dad is a Disco owner with the lift, wheels, etc and sways attached. I mean, if the guy normally drives a Mazda Miata, he is most certainly going to notice a change in the body roll between Matthew's disco and his car, sway bars attached or not. Although, it is also true that a top heavy load will change the way ANY vehicle handles, sways disconnected or not. I guess my point is: Yes, you do get more body roll, and obviously, the amount of lift, load carried, what youre used to driving, tire pressure, etc... is going to make a difference on the magnitude of that body roll, along with the amount of weight you have on the roof rack because it changes the center of gravity. There are plenty of variables to deal with. Cheers Jess | ||
| Jess Alvarez (Jester) Member Username: Jester Post Number: 234 Registered: 11-2002 |
Oh Yeah... http://www.discoweb.org/gregdavis/index.htm and go to the bottom Greg came up with an effective solution that I actually copied. It worked well....although I just got used to having the front and rears disconnected, and got tired of the hassle of reconnecting the sways after a day of wheeling. Cheers, Again.... Jess | ||
| Eric (Epuffy) Member Username: Epuffy Post Number: 103 Registered: 07-2003 |
I have a D1, and it seems like the mounts seem kind of "twisted". Maybe it's after the LR HD springs I put on? If I "disconnect" them, do I take the whole M shaped bar (rear) off? Or just disconnect them from the sides? | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 74 Registered: 08-2003 |
This is Matt's Dad, I have driven this vehicle several times and I think I know what an unusual body sway feels like. My concern with this vehicle is when a driver enters a curve on a highway, at 65MPH, the sway of the vehicle could cause the driver to over correct and then roll the edge of a tire, causing the vehicle to roll. Nobody has to be an expert the see the dangers with this problem. Look at the design of this vehicle with the high roof and rack, add a body sway at high speeds, in a curve and you are facing a dangerous situation. Maybe you like putting yourself or your son in harms way, I will not. Putting the gas cans on the outside of the rack is a good idea, as it allows more room on the rack and keeps the fuels outside of the vehicle, but with this suspension, it's not a good idea while travelling down the highway. You also stated that maybe Matt's Dad is not an expert, how about 25 years of accident investigation, how many fatals have you investigated? I have no intentions of argueing or starting arguements with fellow users' of this website. My son joined this site so he could meet people that have the same passion for these vehicles as he does. | ||
| Alan Greening (Alan_g) Member Username: Alan_g Post Number: 63 Registered: 04-2003 |
Discoverys didn't even have sway (or anti-roll) bars until 1995. That big lurching roll was just considered a characteristic of coil sprung Land Rovers and Range Rovers until they expanded into markets where that level of body roll wasn't acceptable to the masses. Land Rovers, having solid, heavy beam axles and long travel, soft suspension will always feel a lot worse than it is , what with the body being so high, but since the wheel stay at perpendicular to the road, you should have more protection to rolling a tyre than on conventional suspensions. BTW, I've driven various Land Rovers on skid pans, and I found that without sway bars, you had a lot more warning when it was going to slide, whereras the "road-modified" cars seemed to break away more suddenly. Having suitable shock absorbers and tyres in good condition and driving according to the weather/traffic/road conditions has a far greater bearing on preventing a roll-over than simply having anti sway bars fitted. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 873 Registered: 02-2002 |
I removed both sways on the D2. Its dangerous as far as I'm concerned on the highway at speed. I still have the stock shocks and rte springs, and although I am used to it now I still think its gonna be bad in an emergency situation. I heard installing good shocks such as the billsteins greatly improves this. Dean | ||
| Alan Greening (Alan_g) Member Username: Alan_g Post Number: 64 Registered: 04-2003 |
It stands to reason that if you simply remove sway bars and leave the rest of the suspension setup as standard you are going to be affecting the handling of the vehicle. Spring and shock setups that are designed for use with sway bars would be of a different rating to those designed without. You may even find that insurance would not be valid if you had an accident and didn't tell your insurance company that you'd modified the vehicle. | ||
| Adam Zerr (Adamjenzerr) New Member Username: Adamjenzerr Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2003 |
this does not answer my question. i have heard the debate over the sway bar a few timen. What im intrested in is it possable to use a quick disconnect on only one side of the front sway bar. I have the beck off now and i do feel roll at highway speeds. So what if i take the front off and use the disconects in the back. has anybody done that. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1071 Registered: 02-2003 |
keep the front one on with disconnects and leave the rear off, it's the prefered set up. you might be in need of new suspension bushings and it is magnifiying the unstable feelings. old range rovers came stock without swaybars and they are very similar to disco. rd | ||
| Adam Zerr (Adamjenzerr) New Member Username: Adamjenzerr Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2003 |
Actually i do have the OME lift. My question is do you have to disconnect both sides of the sway bar. I csnt get the disconnects in on the right side the diff is in the way | ||
| Bill Mallin (Billmallin) New Member Username: Billmallin Post Number: 14 Registered: 09-2003 |
Hola: I wrote up an article that Ho was kind enough to add to the site: http://www.discoweb.org/quickdisconnect/index.htm. If it's a bit slow to load, you can use this one: http://www.houstonlandroverclub.com/tt_10_04_2003_disconnects.html (same stuff, different server). Take care, Bill Mallin Web Dood Houston Land Rover Club http://www.houstonlandroverclub.com 2001 Disco AKA "Sherman" |
