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Chip Salisbury (Disconites)
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Username: Disconites

Post Number: 42
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

97 D1 that has a scraping noise from the drivers front wheel area. It sounds exactly like a shot pad scraping on a rotor, but I just replaced the front pads last weekend. The scraping increases with speed, but is intermittent. Can anyone think of what else would be making this noise? Wheel bearing? CV?
 

James (Paotwo)
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Username: Paotwo

Post Number: 9
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Check your break disc. It happend to my rear wheels before. The rear discs of mine were pretty much worn out and after changing the two rear discs and two new break pads, everything was ok.
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
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Post Number: 1137
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Chip,

Are the calipers dragging, or is one piston not retracting all the way? Any corrosion on the pistons?

Wheel bearings possible. Check for play in wheel - pull it from top and bottom to see if either wheel has any play (it shouldn't). Even if not, check wheel bearings anyway.

Did you replace the anti-rattle springs?

Bill

 

john heath (Jheath6)
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

the pad could be cocked alittle at a angle and this is typical on foreign cars caused them to sqeak there are shim kits for this problem or buy the cheapest pads they have they don't sqeak just need to replace them more
 

David Zymowski (Davidz)
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Username: Davidz

Post Number: 28
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

is one pad in backwards? dont laugh i've seen it happen. ok thats pretty obvious i know.how about the metal dust cover on the back of the rotor.could be bent slightly or debris between it and the rotor. its easy to drop one of the springs back there.
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Username: Thediscoho

Post Number: 346
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

mud shield?


Ho Chung
 

David Zymowski (Davidz)
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Username: Davidz

Post Number: 29
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

mud shield. yea thats it! more like a mud collector.
 

Jordan Pettigrew (Klecko)
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Username: Klecko

Post Number: 34
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Had something like that recently. Bearing . Scraping noise at startup going slow. Drove it too long before finally checking situation. Actually thought twig or something metallic caught in left front tire area. Turned out to be left rear bearing. My two cents
 

Chip Salisbury (Disconites)
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Username: Disconites

Post Number: 43
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for the responses.

Mud shields are removed. I even checked to make sure the pads were in right (thankfully I didn't have to fess up to putting one in backward).

Bill, I didn't notice any corrosion on the piston when I replaced the pads, however, they seemed more difficult to get back into the caliper than I remembered from the last brake job. Also, when I did the passenger side pads, the pistons seemed to go back into the caliper too easy. Also I checked the wheel for play before I posted last night, and it seemed fine. I didn't replace the anti-rattle springs, but even if they weren't there at all, wouldn't that just cause the pad to fail quicker, yet not cause the scraping?

These are the original rotors and I am sure they need to be replaced soon, but no major damage to them. If they are thin, how would that cause a scraping?

I tried to pay more attention today as I drove and it seems only to be doing it at around 15 MPH or less. At speed I can't hear it at all. And it seems to be a bit worse.

Again, thanks for your help.
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
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Username: Billb

Post Number: 1141
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Wheel bearings would be first thing to check then IMO, especially if you're on original rotors that have never been removed/maintined

Bill
 

Chip Salisbury (Disconites)
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Username: Disconites

Post Number: 44
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

...for those that might run into this problem in the future, it ended up that the hub nut was just finger tight.
 

Greg Hirst (Gregh)
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Username: Gregh

Post Number: 334
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Then your wheel bearing are probably toast unless whoever worked on them last (recently) did not properly apply hub nut and did not properly use bend-lock washer.

I think Bill B's advice above is valid.
 

Chip Salisbury (Disconites)
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Username: Disconites

Post Number: 45
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well I say it was a loose hub nut only because I totally disassembled the front hub to the point of pulling the axle looking for anything that was wrong (wheel bearings were fine as was the CV) and the only thing that I could find was that the first hub nut was only finger tight. Put it all back and the noise is gone.

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