| Author | Message | ||
     Martin Tuip (Ajax) New Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 13 Registered: 06-2003 |
Got into a dingup last night here in town while taking a turn. Oncoming car was speeding and hit me just on the right rear wheel. Lady was driving so fast that it actually bend the axle and knocked out the fuel gauge sensor. Other damage to the door. Total assesed damage 6500 dollars. The car is still drivable, but it is more like limping. No one got hurt, but the impact was pretty heavy and knocked also the front wheels out of line. What was told is that the rear axle and part of the suspension has to be replaced, one rim and a door. Luckily enough she didn't hit any of the special TWR kit on the car. Grrrrr | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 87 Registered: 08-2003 |
Hey Martin, Glad to see everybody is OK. If you haven't, click on "Lucky the RR saves me again." Our poor buddy Jaime had a pretty nasty accident himself ( he's OK), but he plans on setting up another RR. Just get the thing fixed and start planning some more off-road trips! Best of luck, Matt | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 777 Registered: 02-2002 |
Martin, I feel your pain! As Matt mentioned, my RR was just totaled due to a similiar situation. Alan Bates has posted some pics of mine under the thread Matt referenced. One thing to keep in mind when reviewing the damage is the RR has a steel sub-structure that supports the body. This element is not that strong for taking direct impact with some force. While it can be fixed IF its not too wacked out of shape, its not an easy job. One of the reasons mine was totaled out was because the sub-structure was just too bent. So be careful on who fixes the LR. Good luck and glad to hear you also are OK. Jaime | ||
| Martin Tuip (Ajax) New Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2003 |
I saw Jamies posts ... but seeing what our damage looks like and compare it to his makes me realise what a big bang his must have been. I'm glad we are able to fix the car up. We are definately sold to Land Rovers. The insurance company wanted us to fix the suspension stuff as soon as possible so it will go in the shop monday morning. The car is drivable though as she didn't manage to get it too wacked out of shape. We got -1.5 negative chamber on it according to the readings. Not planning to take any long trips, but since we only have one car right now we are forced to use the car. At least we're getting a new axle out of this all. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1098 Registered: 09-2002 |
1.5 degrees negative camber on the rear axle (I assume it is the rear, for that's where you said it was hit)? The housing is bent indeed. I wonder how much slop is there in the rear axle - enough not to cause oil leaks or not? | ||
| Martin Tuip (Ajax) New Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 15 Registered: 06-2003 |
They checked it out and there isn't any leaking. It's been checked out and declared safe to drive for the two days until we need to drive it. It got hit in the right rear. | ||
| Bill Ross (Billr) Member Username: Billr Post Number: 105 Registered: 11-2002 |
Just something to look for but if she hit you hard enough to bend the axle housing, you have to wonder what shape the axle locating linkages (radius arms, etc.) and their mounting points on the frame are in. Did they check out your frame to determine if it was still straight? I know LR frames are pretty stout, but the physics of a shunt can get pretty interesting sometimes. Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. | ||
| Martin Tuip (Ajax) New Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 16 Registered: 06-2003 |
as far as they checked it out thursday it looked ok. But tehy will find this out when they will further work on the car. | ||
| Martin Tuip (Ajax) New Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 17 Registered: 06-2003 |
Hmm .. somehow I need to be able to show up with information on what force it needs to make the axle on a Range Rover bend. Does anyone have some information on that ? | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 780 Registered: 02-2002 |
Martin, who is asking for this type of information? its either straight or bent. out of curiosity, who is determining that it is "safe" to drive? Bill is very correct in that shock loading is much more potentially damaging than a slow applied load. its why the radius arms and bolts snapped on mine due to the sudden shock impact. also the "ears" that hold the rear suspension parts in place are not that stout. although LRs are fairly simple mechanically on which to work, there are MANY parts that effect one another if they are not correctly installed. my insurance agent figured 13,600 to fix my RR. the frame is collapsed in 2 places. the cost of a new frame and just putting it in place would have eaten most of that up. he knew nothing about RRs. be very careful on who fixes your RR if you want it done so the repairs are as good as it was before the accident. just remember, the body panels aren't steel yet the substructure is. Jaime | ||
| Martin Tuip (Ajax) New Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 18 Registered: 06-2003 |
We took it to a LR shop and a body shop that specializes in foreign vehicles who has dealt with repairs on RRs before. Our insurance is asking for this information as they also suspect the other car was speeding at that time. The car is currently already at the shop to get the mechanical bits to be fixed up. This is a LR shop with mechanics that have a long LR servicing history record. | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 781 Registered: 02-2002 |
good to hear. sounds like you are going to a knowledgeable shop. good luck and let us know how you fair on the repairs. Jaime | ||
| Martin Tuip (Ajax) New Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 19 Registered: 06-2003 |
Will do let you all know what the total cost was and what was found. | ||
| Martin Tuip (Ajax) New Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 22 Registered: 06-2003 |
It was the axle that got bend and they replaced it including some seals and a few minor things. The chassis didn't suffer any damage *knocks on wood* and the car will go to the bodyshop in 2 weeks. I'm still convinced that the other driver was speeding. | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 790 Registered: 02-2002 |
sounds like you're on the way to RR recovery! the other driver might have been speeding, yet, it sounds like everything is working out for you. Jaime | ||
| Martin Tuip (Ajax) New Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 23 Registered: 06-2003 |
It is .. I drove the car for the first time today and everything 'feels' good. No bad sounds and the alignment is good. Tomorrow we're off to get some good winter/mud tires so that we can start playing with the car again. I'm in the NorthWest and the Rover club here as a snow run every year. |
