| Author | Message | ||
     Jeff Johnson (Jefferson) New Member Username: Jefferson Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2003 |
Don't get me wrong, I love my truck (2K SE7). Just making conversation. Some say 'underpowered', some say other issues.. My thoughts: -engine is not as completely anemic as some of the boards had led me to believe -suspension is not as roly poly as some have said either, everyone says these look top heavy but I think it handles pretty well for what it is My vote: -Drivetrain? transmission seems to bog it down more than anything in some situations, shift patterns seem a little off, takes forever to downshift etc. Maybe its just mine, maybe it is just not geared higher speeds- Again, I love my truck, quirks and all, one of the few things on the road that actually looks task oriented and has a recognizable lineage- everything else looks like melted plastic on moon buggy tires, covered in chrome.. Just curious, maybe just coming back from mountains prompted it? Jeff | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 1047 Registered: 08-2002 |
Just my opinion, but to me the biggest problem with the DII's (and anything else relatively new) is it's lack of serviceability by the owner. For example, last week I was having problems with one cylinder not firing properly. Turns out it was a bad connection on the #6 cylinder. I was going to replace the plug wires. Have you looked at the plug wires???? There's no way on earth any full-sized human can get their hands behind the intake to attach the wires to the coil pack. If an ABS sensor goes bad, you have to buy the entire hub unit. If you shear off your wheel studs, you have to buy the entire hub unit. See a pattern here? I love my rig, and fortunately I can do most of the repairs myself. But it seems that there is no longer any consideration given to maintaining these things yourself. They'd rather have you pay a tech to remove the intake just to replace plug wires!!! Sorry, it's just frustrating to someone that likes to be a DIY person.  | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 699 Registered: 04-2003 |
its fat ass | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 138 Registered: 08-2003 |
Greg - if you think those wires are bad - you should see where 6th plug placed in my XTerra. I wish i can meet that very sick minded person who designed it to give him/her piece of me mind. But point is - of course they trying to make you go to "certified mechanic" - thats how they can train those and make more money | ||
| Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera) Member Username: Alexcabrera Post Number: 151 Registered: 12-2002 |
U-joints self destructing.. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2573 Registered: 02-2002 |
Lack of a CDL. Large rear overhang. Increase in complexity over the DI. -L | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1180 Registered: 02-2002 |
Loss of swivel balls, and FF axles Bill | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 917 Registered: 02-2002 |
rear overhang; no greasable front drive shaft fittings; pathetic front CV joint boots. | ||
| Eugene (Eugene) Member Username: Eugene Post Number: 99 Registered: 02-2003 |
Lack of CDL and reliance on ETC to distribute power to axles. Large rear overhang. | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 81 Registered: 07-2003 |
I'm goin with Blue on this... The fat ass (or large rear overhang) | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1571 Registered: 04-2002 |
1. Axles (hubs on in) (no FF, CV boot over swivel ball, and non-servicable ABS sensors or bearings) 2. "baby got back" but I don't care for big butts myself 3. Lack of CDL in the 2001-2003MY's. | ||
| Kim S (Roverine) Senior Member Username: Roverine Post Number: 460 Registered: 03-2002 |
LOL, I hate fat asses! (especially my own!  ) ... Had to stop by the dealership the other day - My hubby made me buy a whole new "left rear lamp assembly" for my bumper just because the lense was cracked. Couldn't just replace the lense, oh no, had to buy the whole "assembly". Told him at this point what I could use is a new HD bumper. LOL,I just need to learn to drive it better. I completely concur with all of the above replies. However, I can't complain too much I guess ... It's "the family wagon", and the extra room comes in handy. With a little modification it stills beats most of the other grocery getters. (yes I have CDL, but no lockers). I figure, at least I can take it offroad and kick just a little butt if need be (ugh, back to the butt thing again, maybe I should say big butt ). | ||
| Christopher Boese (Christopher) Member Username: Christopher Post Number: 206 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yeah, it's that big ol' booty that's the biggest weakness. And no CDL (though they've brought that back.) For what it's worth, the DIII will have less rear overhang, overhanging its independent rear suspension, that is. | ||
| john heath (Jheath6) Member Username: Jheath6 Post Number: 105 Registered: 09-2003 |
hey kim i can't imagine ya having a big but if your legs can fit under a disco steering wheel...lol ...but not having a cdl is the weakest link in my book | ||
| Peter J. Kelly (Pjkbrit) Member Username: Pjkbrit Post Number: 46 Registered: 05-2003 |
Goods: Drives nice/handles soooo much better than a D1/"Better build quality"/fwd facing rear seats/4.0 V8 with K&N has plenty of power/fuel consumption ain't as bad as others of its type/good towing platform/totally more classy than its competitors, nicely styled/4.6 motor with cdl on 04s will be the one to buy and keep for 20 years IMHO. Finally...will appreciate in value when the DIII insults us all with it's "Dude, you're gettin' a FORD" trick later next year.....LOL Bads: Toooooo much electrical 'crap' to go wrong.../ABS wheel sensors/radio dies/AC computer dies/rear air suspension fails when old/DEALERS and their crappy techicians/warranty too short/Auto box shift points are just wrong and cannot be adjusted/plug leads even my 7 yr. olds tiny hands cannot reach/self destructing front UJ joints..(DO NOT IGNORE)! | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2577 Registered: 02-2002 |
Here's a thought...... What if..... .... you pulled a pair of axles out from under a D1 or a RRC or a Defender, and put 'em under a DII? That way you'd go back to the swivels/get away from the boots, could go with regular u-joints on the driveshafts, etc..... no mucking about with hub unit replacements for sensors or studs, etc.... Use wheels to adjust for offset/width as needed... with your choice of gearing, locking diffs, etc.... Is this idea too nutty? -L | ||
| Milan (Milan) Senior Member Username: Milan Post Number: 279 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hey guys, I thought the DII still had FF axles just used unit bearings (bearing, hub and spindle in one) instead of serviceable hubs. The axleshafts don't actually carry any weight on the DII, do they? To stay on topic, I don't like the big ass on our DI so you can figure out what I think of DII. | ||
| John Lombos (Rover4us) Member Username: Rover4us Post Number: 66 Registered: 02-2003 |
Add a weak and almost non existant mid range powerband to the already mentioned please. | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1578 Registered: 04-2002 |
Leslie, I've often thought of doing just that. Just waiting for more time and money. After that maybe a bob-tailed D2 (ala D1)? |
