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     RAYMOND SANTOS (Mokie) New Member Username: Mokie Post Number: 26 Registered: 09-2003 |
I tried to ignore the problem since I am situated at the high desert in So. Cal. where it hardly rains. Now, I would like to fix this once and for all. After examining the gaskets, I did not see any cracks that could facilitate the water leak. Nevertheless, water still leaks through the sunroof console. I saw the two holes that I assume the water can get through and leak inside the vehicle through the console and/or the felt-like roof. There is a plastic trim on the top of the glass that looks like it's for wind deflection. I tried epoxing it to the glass but won't stick. I don't think this is the culprit. Any suggestions? | ||
| RAYMOND SANTOS (Mokie) New Member Username: Mokie Post Number: 27 Registered: 09-2003 |
JOHN- DO NOT SAY SILICONE (AT LEAST NOT YET). | ||
| john heath (Jheath6) Member Username: Jheath6 Post Number: 107 Registered: 09-2003 |
ok take a piece of sheet metal alittle bigger than the sunroof and weld it the whole way around and paint it blue underneath so it looks like the sky and there ya go. seriously these things are a big pain and hard to cope with water in one place doesn't mean it coming from there water can travel far to get to it final destination. | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Senior Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 331 Registered: 04-2003 |
Raymond, first, check to make sure that all four of the screws that hold the sun roof glass in place are tight and that the glass is adjusted where it seals well. Then check the screws that hold the plastic overhead parts and make sure they are all tight. | ||
| Sandy Grice (Apg) New Member Username: Apg Post Number: 37 Registered: 02-2003 |
Also, make sure the drains in each corner are clear. An old speedo cable makes a dandy 'snake' for cleaning these out. Cheers | ||
| RAYMOND SANTOS (Mokie) New Member Username: Mokie Post Number: 28 Registered: 09-2003 |
Sandy-when you said "drains" you mean the two holes that if you put your finger in it you can actually feel the interior of the vehicle, right? And, Joey, the plastic overhead parts are not screwed I tink it just sticks on the glass. Anyone have an exploded view of the sunroof??? | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Senior Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 333 Registered: 04-2003 |
Sorry I meant the plastic parts that hold the sun visors and such, I have heard that if they are not tight you will sometimes get water it. Never had that problem, but I thought I would mention it. Mine the four scres that hold the sun roof glass in place were loose. Tightened them up and no more water. | ||
| RAYMOND SANTOS (Mokie) New Member Username: Mokie Post Number: 32 Registered: 09-2003 |
I checked the screws and fittings all seemed to be tight. I still believe that the "drains" is where the water is coming from. If I plug those drains located on the corners would that cause any reprecussions? Is there another area I need to check? | ||
| Porter Mann (Porter) Member Username: Porter Post Number: 61 Registered: 05-2003 |
Those holes you are looking at are not drains. The drains can't be seen unless you take down the headliner from the roof. The tubes are at the top right and top left corner of the black drain pan. There are two factors in play here 1)the seal around the window or around the trim is allowing water to enter inside, and 2) the drain tubes that clear any water are possibly clogged. When you close the window, check from the outside to make sure that the glass is sitting as flat as possible against the rubber molding, the glass could be slightly crooked. Then check to make sure that the trim is sitting flat against the roof. If not, tighen the 14 torx screws that hold the drain pan from underneith (inside the headliner). Now, the drain tubes. Check in the tech section under sunroof rails and you will see a picture of the black drain pan. You'll see at the outer edge 2 tubes that lead down. These are the drains that people are talking about. The two holes that you are talking about are not drains. There are two ways of clearing them. You can do what Sandy says, and blindly clear them with some probe. Be gentle as you can dislodge the tube (although they're on there pretty tight). Find where the front of the aluminum rail turns into the tubular track. In that corner, way down deep is the begining of the drain. The other method is to remove the headliner down. If you decide to remove the headliner, its actually a pretty tough material, but watch out, its made of fiberglass. My arms have been itching for days. | ||
| Geoff 93 RRC (Geoff) Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 128 Registered: 11-2002 |
On my Rangie water will leak in if not parked on a level surface. The drain holes are not large enough to handle flow from the other side and the water pools just enough to spill onto the headliner, which eventually soaks through. This occurs even on barely noticeable off camber parking or on hills. I have also pulled the headliner and checked that the drains are clear. | ||
| RAYMOND SANTOS (Mokie) New Member Username: Mokie Post Number: 33 Registered: 09-2003 |
Porter- Thank you for your advise. A couple of issues: 1. The seal looks like they are in tack. No cracks or gaps. 2. The trim you mentioned, is that the black plastic trim that's on top of the sunroof glass? Also, this might be a stupid question but, are the drain tubes designed so that water that accidentally gets through the sunroof does not leak inside? | ||
| Porter Mann (Porter) Member Username: Porter Post Number: 62 Registered: 05-2003 |
Raymond, the trim piece is the plastic boarder that surrounds the glass. Its immoble and part of the sunroof assembly that doesn't move. Basically, the roof is sandwhiched between the upper plastic trim piece and the drain pan below by 14 torx screws. The piece that's on top of the glass is just some wind deflecting invention - I don't think it plays an important role in anything. You're correct, the drain tubes are designed so that water that accidently get through does not leak inside, rather, the water is channeled through these tubes down the A-pillar and out. Most likely, if the drains are clogged, its becuase of leaves or other debis that's fallen into the sunroof over the years. Get some REALLY long pipe cleaner and try that. I think the more important issue is trying to find out where the water leaks through. When the sunroof is down all the way, is it crooked at all? Close the sunroof and check to make sure that there isn't a gap between the glass and the seal. Its possible that the glass isn't coming down to squish the seal and keeping out water. |
