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CJ SZPILA (Crash05)
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Post Number: 237
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am considering the black out hood for my 98 Disco, but I haven't seen and pictures of green Disco with the hood blacked out. Actually if anybody know any Disco pictures on the Web with the hood black out let me know. Thanks
 

Alan Bates (Alanb)
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Post Number: 348
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.viggdesigns.com/lineup/roverstuff.htm
 

Frank Rafka (Mongosd2)
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Post Number: 157
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Paint it, won't fade, it' just permanent...cost me about $10.00...use a matte or flat paint...

Frank
 

Andrew Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 320
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sticker doesn't leave brush marks :-)

 

Brian Dickens (Bri)
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Post Number: 763
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Paint it. Once you go black you never go back. Done with krylon automotive camo paint, very flat black. Works killer.

hood
 

p (Pfb)
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Post Number: 64
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

And once you paint it, what do you do to feather the edge?
 

John W (Disco_gold)
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A friend of mine had the body of his old hunting Bronco coated with Rhino liner. Depending on how strongly you feel you could have part or all of your hood coated. It is permanent but I think it would be more protective than paint or a decal.

Has anyone else heard of or done this?
 

Mike Mason (Lrmike)
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Post Number: 10
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here's a picture of my green '94. I had it painted by the boys in my paint shop, it took less than half a day (I took the hood off to make it easier), and it looks awesome.

My opinion: The sticker is a bitch to put on, will likely have a wrinkle or bubble that will drive you insane, and will eventually peel up. Besides, you'll have to paint the hood eventually anyway.. the dark colors seem to suffer from the sun.

If the sharp edge bothers you (no more than the sticker or a pinstripe) I suppose you could lightly feather with finishing paper and compound.

Take the leap of faith and paint it! but I definately recommend using a pro, not a spray bomb.

Disco hood
 

Rick Neff (Lostinboston)
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've been thinking of putting rhino lining on my hood, sliders and bumpers. I have a small sample of it and it seems extremely durable. Itll cover and scratches and hopefully prevent more new ones. IF you breeze through 4wheeler or similar mags youll probably see rigs covered completely in Rhino Lining.
-Rick
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Guys, I've had the rhino lining done for over a year now. Hood, sliders, bumpers, and bottom 1/3 of The Rover (from moulding down & wheel arches). Tape it off with masking tape, then cover the things you don't want painted with newspaper because it WILL splatter. My brother and I did it ALL in about 2 hours with the help of a 12-pack of Miller Lite (longnecks of course). It's easy, unique, and functional. Period.

Zach
 

Brian Dickens (Bri)
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Post Number: 766
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Depends on how much you want to pay, how goo you are with a spray can and/or if you have any other paint equipment. If you are careful tape, sand and give it a few coats with it standing vertically, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between a good shop and a cheap can of Krylon.

I do not see the need for rhino on the hood though.
 

p (Pfb)
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Considering how quickly my non-clear-coated red paint gets oxidized and faded even after a buff/wax, I'm tempted to paint the entire roof white and the entire hood black...
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Post Number: 153
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Where white roof came from? :-)
 

Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Pfb - I too have thought of that, my 95 red d1 is fading on the roof and hood, wax and buffing helps only for a short time. Sergei, the white roof is from defender envy ... :-)
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Post Number: 156
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ohhhhh - well we actually got Series II truck running amock in city that got white roof too :-)

Btw - i got red truck as well, and paint is in shape where i can see it on the paper towel after wiping with stuff stronger that water :-)

Altough my hood is already painted.. except i am about to redo it tonight as i dont like how paint looks like.

Still - white top is odd at the moment :-) Need to sleep on that idea.
 

Andrew Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 324
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sounds like someone needs to post that pic of the "Defender Edition" Discovery -- it was Conniston Green with a white top.

PhotoShop in the red, and a black hood, and you'd have a preview, Sergei! :-)
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Post Number: 157
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Andrew - aint got photoshop.. Only GIMP :-) Linux here. I can picture disco with white top.. I am just not sure i like it :-) Guess it has to grow on you.
 

Andrew Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 325
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My disco has a white top -- although it is Alpine White...I rather like the idea of a white top on an other-color Disco...but I don't have to look at it in the parking lot every day :-)

 

Joey (Joey4420)
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Post Number: 344
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Not to throw a flag on the field, but other than looking different. What is the main reason for doing the black out on the hood?

Is it for sun glare or another reason?

Red '97 Disco here, not sure if it would look right with a black hood.
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Post Number: 158
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yup. Sun glare reduced A LOT.
Also, it will help your hood to loose/accumulate more heat (flat black color consumes heat best of all colors).
And gives you piece of mind when you looking at stone chirps :-) Knowing that you can always paint them over (or in case of sticker - there wont be chirp at all)
 

Andrew Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 326
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Okay, here goes...Political Science major, law school, attorney....no mad art skilz whatsoever, and using only puny MS Paint because I'm at work. And, with what should be obvious apologies to Brian Friend:


White Top Black Hood
 

Andrew Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 327
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Upon further review, that may be the absolute worst photo editing job, ever. But I think you can see it would have to grow on you...
 

Joey (Joey4420)
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Post Number: 345
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The black hood looks good, but the white roof.....I don't think I could do that.
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Post Number: 159
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Andrew :-)
--
Then again white roof will help to keep truck cooler in sun and and warmer in those cold winters... (white is on opposite side from black.. Altough shiny thingy would do better, but we talking flat colors). Looks funky, no doubt :-) Need to think about it and it might turn out to be my next painting project :-)


 

Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Black out was also a Camel Trophy thing, helped prevent glare at night from rack mounted lights. Plus it makes you look cool ... lol. Sergei- paint yours and we can all decide if we like it or not ... :-) Just do it!!!!
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Post Number: 160
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Andy - you mean white roof? I tried last night - didnt like it, so i removed it (its fairly easy if you fast enough to get it before it completely dry). It doesnt really go well with red&black gamma.. I will try again whenever i will get around to swap red for pearl blue :-) I am keep thinking about repainting truck in that color.
 

Joey (Joey4420)
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Post Number: 353
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just talked to the body shop that is taking care of some rust issues on my '97 Disco (alpine window, door jams and bottom of doors) Land Rover NA is paying the bill too, can't complain about that.

Anyway, he told me if I wanted to black the hood out it would only cost me a $125 or so and he said that he would do it in a semi gloss look, he said if I did a flat black it would fade and chip easy.

I think I am going to pass right now though. I have too many other things that I want to get and or buy.
 

Brian Dickens (Bri)
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Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Don't listen to your buddy, it will be the quality of his paint and his paint job that prevents the chips/fading. Flat black IS the way to go, the flatter the better, otherwise forget it (IMHO).

Tape it off, sand it, cover with a few coats of good quality flat black paint and your eyes will be thanking you the next time you drive into the sun or down the road at night. If you are concerned about your ability to paint without drips with a can, just take off the hood and paint with it vertical so the drips fall on the floor.

Just do it.
 

Lewis Jones (Cutter)
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Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The school busses around here have white tops. Makes the interior a lot cooler in the summer...(would still look odd on a disco)
 

Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't think the white roof looks too odd on a disco, having seen one done that way once myself. However, it might look strange with both a white roof and a black hood. ...and it depends what color car we are talking about.
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Joey if you do it yourself it would cost you like 15$ - can of primer, can of paint, piece of sandpaper, roll of masking tape :-) And Brian totally right - i tried both variants and ultra-flat was (and now is) best choice.

Alyssa - looks like most of people who curious got red Discos :-) Guess its something about quality of red paint.

Lewis - i been to Moab bunch of times but never seen school buses with white tops... So theory on paint colours and radiated heat/heat absorbancy does work then :-) Nice to know.
 

Lewis Jones (Cutter)
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Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey Sergei, I was sitting here lookin out the window at lunch today and the school bus droped the kiddies off across the street, and it DIDN'T have a white top....(it's the bus with the handi-ramp) The ones parked behind the high school have the tops white. BTW, the handi-bus has tinted windows, very dark, and A/C.
Back in Dallas all of 'em had the white tops to cool 'em off inside. I doubt if it made a big differance...

here's a bit of info off the web
4. Bus roofs painted white provide greater heat reflectivity away from the bus interior and enable the air conditioning system to work more effectively. Buses whose roofs are so equipped are about 10 degrees F cooler than buses with conventional yellow roofs.

its from here... http://www.whitebuffalopress.com/momacc.htm
 

Brian Dickens (Bri)
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Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I agree with Alyssa. White looks normal on mine.

;-)

If you do it with masking take be carful to not sand too much on the edge of the tape. If you do, then reapply a fresh mask before painting.

I sanded, primed and then applied about 3 complete coats of ultra-flat krylon which is made for camo'ing vehicles. It is laquer based (don't know if that is good or bad long term).

Laquer base paint will eat through all layers of the paint if you drip, so leave the drip if you drip, do not try to wipe it off, just cover with another layer.

There is absolutely no sign of any type of wear after a year, and I doubt there will be for a very, very long time. It is however flat, so things collect on it pretty well (lint, mud, dirt, dust), but oxidation is definitely not one of them. And it has not faded at all.

With this technique there is no going back, but I seriously see no reason to.

it is the best mod that I have done to my vehicle except for the freezer/fridge.

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